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ah but the supreme court not taking a 2A case won't matter for us very soon. i've been saying for a while now, the 3rd circuit is going to liberate new jersey. porter should be confirmed by the end of june, matey by august, which, along with the bibas appointment, will flip the 3rd circuit to a conservative majority... https://www.rollcall.com/news/hawkings/blue-slip-judicial-nominees-custom

Pulled the trigger on a new car. Never thought I would get one but couldn't resist at the price. 2016 Challenget Hellcat. Had less than 1100 miles on it. Big trunk so it can fit all my toys for the range.

i'd strongly suggest everyone thinking of selling their mags or butchering them to not do so. this bill is as unconstitutional as they come and will be tossed by any court in the country, including liberal ones. i haven't said much because i actually doubted it would pass. clearly our esteemed legislature are not versed on the constitution. ex post facto laws are specifically prohibited, by name, under article 1 section 10 of our trusty document. ex post facto laws are those which make illegal an act which was legal when committed. if you bought 15 round mags legally, they cannot suddenly become illegal. period. done. end of story. (as an aside, bump stock bans will fall as well). not only is murphy a moron, but he's a greedy moron as well. had he allowed simple grandfathering (like the other states have), it would have been harder to challenge. not impossible mind you, just harder. as it stands, this jackass is going to make the taxpayers pay for something that has no chance of standing. if you have 15rd mags in nj, you'll keep 15 rd mags in nj. take it to the bank. the california ban was supposed to have been in effect as of jan 1. the judge in the most liberal court in the country had to stop it for the same reason the real question for me is where did this attorney general get his law degree? he should be disbarred for giving consent to murphy to sign the bill

Guys think ya might wanna give litigation a chance?

Some animals are more equal that others.

lol Why limit to 15? if you going to become a felon dont play games with it... Go Big

that's what injunctions are for. take all the time you want courts. in the meantime, the law is on hold

linkified: http://www.thekaplanblog.com/the-citizen-in-peril/

They disarm us....They Own Us.

Because after a 7 or 5 round limit will come the 1 round limit, with any features like "ability to accept a magazine", "revolving cylinder", "pistol grip", or "ability to fire or propel any kind of projectile, at any velocity, with or without sufficient force to injure someone" as an assault weapon.

Neither should the next limit reduction.

Ha Ha... exactly my point. What's the difference. it's not like they tack on additional months in jail for round 11, 12, 13, 14, etc. After the first overage, the rest are FREE! Might just as well go get a drum mag, and really go out big!

Strange law

Liberal mayor in your town? On the day before the 180 days expires, mail all of your > 10 round mags to the mayor. By the time they arrive and the box is opened, they'll be illegal. Anonymous tip follows ... Wouldn't that be fun?

Here is the Fox5 piece today. 1/2 hour shoot and I got 11 seconds. LOL. http://www.fox5ny.com/news/6-gun-control-measures-in-new-jersey

Outstanding. And...Godspeed. One can only hope that one of our anti-2A supremes - preferably the "Notorious RBG" - retires soon, very soon! SCOTUS can't keep denying 2A cases forever... and there does seem to be a will among some of the conservative judges to take a case. Wouldn't it be WONDERFUL, after all the abuse NJ's legal gun owners have taken, if a NJ 2A case made it all the way to a favorable SCOTUS? Dare to dream.

Here's an ANJRPC alert that just came out - yikes, it seems like that org is going to have their hands full! It seems the freedom-stomping, gun-grabbing actions of the state legislature have only emboldened folks in the local municipalities. I wish I could make this tonight but I can't... perhaps some of you are available to attend? ANJRPC WARNS PISCATAWAY ON ILLEGAL ORDINANCE RESTRICTING FIREARMS SALES! June 14, 2018. ANJRPC has warned the town of Piscataway, New Jersey in a lawyer letter that a proposed ordinance effectively prohibiting firearms sales within the town is unlawful and could subject the town to liability. The ordinance, scheduled for a hearing tonight, would prohibit state and federally licensed firearms dealers from conducting business within 1,000 feet of a sweeping list of properties located within the town, effectively banning legal firearms sales in Piscataway. “This proposed ordinance would violate the Second Amendment as well as state law pre-empting towns from regulating firearms sales,” said ANJRPC Executive Director Scott Bach. “The premise behind the ordinance is absurd – criminals don’t buy guns from licensed dealers, and locating sales 1,000 feet from property in Piscataway will neither stop nor deter someone intent on doing evil. The local grandstanding politicians pushing this measure don’t seem to understand the difference between law-abiding gun owners and criminals.” Gun owners interested in attending tonight’s hearing, which starts at 7:30 p.m., can find location information by clicking here. <click here for the online version of this alert>

That's right Zeke. Reloading is always lurking in my basement too. I saved a quantity of known good brass for future 'emergencies', and my RCBS implements are ready to spring into action if necessary. I would just like to dedicate my time to other things at the moment. Like... shooting!

And the lawsuit’s have begun! Stick that mag ban! https://www.anjrpc.org https://cdn.ymaws.com/www.anjrpc.org/resource/resmgr/legal_motions___briefs/anjrpc_v_grewal_nj(p0153639x.pdf

I Shane! He did one of my rifleguns too. He did the nicest job out of all of my rifles.

That screams mid life crisis! Muscle!

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Aaaand this is why for the past 5yrs I've been jumping on every sale or cheap 10 rnd mag I can find. It don't hurt as much as having to buy them all at once. Only ones I couldn't find discounted were CZs. This law should not have taken anyone by surprise.

Yea, but in reality, they are not cheap. I have a few dozen pmags and hexmags. I already bought 10 rounders for my ARs and similar. BUT, a lot of us own pistols with 15 round capacities. They cost a fortune. They average $30-$50 bux each. Replacing them would cost me $100s. So, it can be expensive if you own quite a few weapons. On another note, RE: Hexmags Just spoke to my rep there and they will not sell parts to make them 10... Its been their policy for quite awhile... No internal part sales. He did offer a coupon code, NJ50 for a discount. So if you’d rather use Hexmags, could be an option. Saves ya a few bux. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

In the studio taping GunForHire Radio #368. Scott Bach from Anjrpc.org and he is discussing the mag ban and the status of the lawsuit! Tune in this Sunday www.GunForHireRadio.com

why destroy your mags why not just buy 2 ten round mags for each gun and put the rest away till we elect someone with a brain. You can find great deals on ebay they have loads of 10 rounders

So can we still enjoy our 15rnd mags for the next 180 days? Or will someone at R14 rat me out?

Gentlemen, again thank you for the kind words and the opportunity to work on your rifles!

I'd like to vouch for Shane as well. He did an awesome job pinning the brake on my rifle!

Hexmags are not pinned and they are designed for 15 rounds. They are/were legal. I have to give Hexmag a call and see if they’ll sell new guts for 10. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He is a friggin POS ......who goes against the oath he took in the military and now as a public servant.

Actually #4 is probably the easiest to bring to court. What they actually did was make what was administrative rules, codified law. Previously the law was written to require justifiable need but the definition was left open which is how Christie was able to loosen it slightly, he had his DA change the definition slightly. In the courts, they could just say, “these people are suing over administrative issues, the law is fine” Now they put the cards on the table and worded the definition of what they think “justifiable need” is which is even more restrictive then the DC law that the SC struck down. The theory is that future governors can’t do what Christie did now. I think they just made an unconstitutional law in direct contention with the SC so that makes it very lawsuit ready.... -Jim

Central Jersey Rifle Pistol Club. #MENTAKINGBACKFATHERSDAY2018

No they can't. The result of the exercise of a right can be regulated. Not the right itself. Rights can be restricted on a case by case basis, AFTER due process. That is it. Broad restriction on Constitutionally protected rights, is by definition unconstitutional. So the judges opinion is what counts? So the 5 SC judges that decide for MacDonald opinions just don't matter in NJ I guess?

Different lawsuit. https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Gun-mags-Fresno-COMPLAINT.pdf

Here is the case. Injunction granted in 6/2017 and as of 5/2018 is still ongoing http://michellawyers.com/duncan-v-becerra/

Thank you very much everyone. Ms 12 Gauge, i appreciate the book recommendation. I will absolutely look into that.

According to Federal Law a FFL03 can take delivery at home or anywhere in their own state or one of the other 49 states as long as they do so within the law of the state and handgun is C&R elogible. My reading of the bill is you can have a handgun delivered to your home however you must have a PTP and the seller must fill out the paperwork and still send it in. This is highly unlikely to happen with any seller. The seller also must be a FFL03. As for going to another state and purchasing a handgun with a FFL03 my reading of the law is yes you can do so and you can bring it back to NJ. However I have always felt a FFL03 who lives in NJ could do so. If one were to be safe and be within the letter of the law you would again need a PTP and the seller would have to fill out the paperwork and send it in. Again it is highly unlikely that sellers in free states will do so. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

If you could somehow remove the part of the state about 10 miles to each side of the NJ Turnpike, it would be Texas without the barbecue.

I'm actually pleased at this letter - if this is the level of tactics we can expect from this AG's office (baseless threats, fear mongering, half-truths, flimsy associations and verbal bullying) then they're going have a real bad time with upcoming gun law litigation.

Been called lots of things. I’ll add felon to the list

feels the same as it does living in nj.

Dang, I am sitting at work trying to figure out why my program doesn't behave correctly and you are lounging about drinking beers. Something wrong here............

Within a few years of this we will all be scrambling to buy property in North Korea where they will have right to carry sooner than us. Mitch McConnell .........where are you, bring up the national reciprocity and use the "nuclear" option NOW for everything. stop playing patty cakes with these fuckin marxists.

Doesnt seem like a bad price but we shouldnt have to spend a dime since we didnt break any laws! Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

they're 2 separate 7 round mag tubes.

If one has the skills that you can learn in High School shop class, no modifications are permanent.

Not to take away from this thread, but for those of you that find you really enjoy yourself at this type of event, I'd suggest you check out IDPA or USPSA or both. If the bug bites you really badly you can shoot a match every weekend with only minor travel (<90 minutes). Just thought I'd throw this out there for your consideration. Adios, Pizza Bob

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