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At least the State is finally admitting they view law abiding citizens and criminals as one in the same.

I wondered about that earlier too, when I read the state's position on magazines. Not a good argument for them. Wouldn't it be a real kick in the pants if we were "forced" to buy standard, 30 rounds mags, like the majority of the free states?

Im pretty sure this is normal. Think of it as an indictment hearing, to determine if there is merit for trial. It would be nice to get an answer now, and it seems trivial to go through all this effort for an injunction when the courts could just use the time to figure out if the law is even constitutional. This means it went well. ANJRPC's oral argument was enough to convince a judge that their case has merit, and the state failed to convince the Judge that they do. Moving forward with a "full blown hearing" is a good thing. If anything it means that the states argument was so weak, the judge is giving them a extension to find something to argue.

Enough of mere mortals seizing authority they stole!

I just went through the training this past spring and am now an official member in my town (Keyport). We were actually the first to be certified in the state this year. My town is small, thus the training class was small. Just me, my wife, and one other person. I enjoyed it. Kinda a pain in the butt to go once a week for two months or so since I commute to NYC for work every day, but I’m glad we did it. They cover a lot of basic, but important stuff. I also really liked the final training simulation. We had to clear out a building with various “victims” with a variety of injuries or other problems. If you have any specific questions, just let me know.

I was thinking about joining once before too, then got sidetracked with other stuff. Here is the NJ information: http://www.ready.nj.gov/cert/index.shtml

I have a feeling after oct 1 the coe will disappear from NJSP downloadable forms page

The state police shoot their ARs there I doubt anyone will complain about shooting steel there. I'd hang them on chain and shoot away personally. Sometimes it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission

I believe it does, because you're not transporting them (and I still have a issue with the "transport" claim.) as we're in the grace period. You're going to get jammed at home if you use a 4 round mag (or a revolver), it won't be the mag that's the issue.

One more thing, they have fireworks at the falls at night and the lights on the falls at night are pretty cool

So we switched his harness yesterday. I don't want to saw he's a completely different dog but OMG it's close! Have been on three walks since changing his harness. He's hardly pulling at all. I wish I could say it's because I'm such a great trainer or but I doubt that. Lol. We had a traditional harness on him. After watching a few YouTube videos on how to stop him from pulling two different instructors said traditional harnesses actually encourage pulling. Who knew! Well, other than those two instructors. Evidently the way traditional harnesses work triggers a "pulling instint". Much like sled dogs. The new harness fits a little different and the o-ring attachment for the leash is on the front instead of on his back. When / if he pulls the harness is set up to move him towards you. I think it's called an "Easy Walk" harness. I highly recommend it! It was getting frustrating for him and I going on walks. I was constantly making him sit or stop because of the constant pulling. A 15 minute walk was taking 45 minutes. Here's a link: https://www.chewy.com/petsafe-easy-walk-dog-harness/dp/52060?utm_source=google-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=hg&utm_content=PetSafe&utm_term=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwm6HaBRCbARIsAFDNK-jQxU9Yr-G97teCXKOpkknD1xsOJqPnCMuqBWjwPh3J80XRJpgOE2EaAsnDEALw_wcB

Law abiding citizens pose no danger. Jeebus what is going on here.. the minority report

It wasn’t obvious enough for me...

Sadly, I agree 100 percent with the commentary above! EVEN as a young kid, I was struck by how much nicer the Canadian side was... strikingly so. The Canadians fixed up the area all around the falls with nice landscaping w/gorgeous flowers, etc. Everything just looked clean and well-manicured and thriving. Whereas the U.S. side looked dirty and shabby... and I've read recently that the town on the U.S. side has hit with hard times even worse in recent years, so I'm guessing the difference between the 2 sides might be even more stark today. It's deeply disappointing to me that on such a major tourist attraction the U.S. allows themselves to get so badly shown up by our neighbors to the north. We should be proud of our many sites of "natural wonder" - they are an integral part of our national heritage - and we should make sure they're adequately funded and maintained.

Just went a few weeks ago, my biggest tip is get a couple hundred bucks exchanged just for the restaurants. Most places will automatically do the exchange but restaurants won't so they get a $35 tip. There is an exchange a few blocks fromthe falls right in the middle of the tourestie stuff and one right on the othere side of peace bridge. Haven't been to either one so no idea if it's free or what. Just missed the one at peace bridge being open because the Canadian boarder people held us up for 3 hours. Coming back the American dude said like 2 words to us and waived us through. The hornblower is on the Canadian side and the maid of the mist is on the American side, they get a little offended when you call theirs the maid of the mist. The whirlpool thing is not what you would think but it's wort the drive if you stop along the way. The hiking trail there looks amazing but we didn't have time to do it. Lock everything up and don't let your guad down when in the hotel area, lot's of scumbags out there. If you like real cars there are a ton of them cruising around up there, Chevelles, Camaros, GTOs, Firebirds, vetts... Get some Tim Hortons birthday cake timbits

Water going over a cliff?

We went a few years ago to the Canadian side. It was lovely. Did the maid of the mist, and the walking tour behind the falls. Great places to eat and drink. Have an Iron City (I think) hard cider for me. Wonderful on a hot day!

Eternal Flame Falls Eternal Flame Hiking Trail, Orchard Park, NY 14127 https://g.co/kgs/51UZgN Nice little hike in the area it will probably be crowded but less so than Niagara Falls.

That would be my guess...

Out of the box? I dunno. I know you can do that with the Vantrue - just need the wiring kit.

I think the injunction should have been granted, but I'm glad this is at least being given a chance to be heard and I think we have a chance to win. I think the state fails to prove its case. This is just my 3 cents on why (I'm no lawyer). 1. Law abiding citizens, by definition, abide by the law and therefore pose no danger. 2. The shooter at the Parkland school in Florida (and several other past active shooter incidents) used 10 round magazines. So wtf is the state of NJ really achieving here by limiting us to the same devices? 3. 42 states do not have magazine restrictions, so the demand for standard capacity magazines is much higher than demand for reduced capacity magazines. Therefore, there is nothing dangerous or unusual about standard capacity magazines. They come with every firearm sold. The reduced capacity (15 or 10 round) magazines are more unusual because there are less of them sold due to only 8 states and Washington DC having magazine bans.

One can only hope...

She can’t wait to get your wife shooting! @Mrs. Peel @Mrs.Zeke More like unleashed the Kraken

See, you created a monster, just hope she never uses them on you.

It's called what goes around comes around! I had to hide EVERY gun purchase from my wife or I would not have any guns!

This game is hard

If you add “currently” in front of “law-abiding gun owner” you get an idea how they think. In their mind every one of us could snap at any second. They are in a race to make everything illegal before that happens so that their utopian world can be realized.

That was one of the arguments in the briefs: that N.J. has had 15-round mags for a long time and that the state has failed to make the case why reducing to 10 is “dangerous”. Kind of makes you think that their definition of “law abiding” is rather slippery when it comes to gun owners.

They argued (among other things) that magazines over 10 rounds are dangerous and unusual weapons not protected under the Second Amendment, are not needed for self-defense, and are a danger to the public, even in the hands of law-abiding citizens. The entirety of this paragraph irks me to my very core. However, I feel even more angry with the, “even in the hands of law-abiding citizens.” They, without regard, have impugned my character and all other decent gun owners with no evidence or facts. Arguing mags greater than 10 rounds are not common should be interesting. We just need to a manufacturer website and see most standard capacity mags are greater than 10. Also gun crime stats would prove illegal guns are used in the overwhelming majority crimes. I feel my tax money is dangerous, especially in the hands of libtards.

If it could..........We would win!

Can't this just be settled with a trial by combat?

they're not buybacks no govt entity can buy BACK that which they never owned.

It seems that even SCOTUS decisions are not binding for some district courts. Hopefully the new SCOTUS takes another case soon and sets them all straight. And Thomas should write the decision.

No need to bring plastic bag chances are you will be able to find one along the coast of the island. Plastic trash is on every uninhabited island because there is no one to clean it up. I've stopped on a few uninhabited islands/ shoals and the amount of plastic trash is shocking and saddening.

All 22LR ammo is dirty. Nature of the round. Some are just disgusting, i.e. Remington "Thunder Turds (Thunderbolt)" as an example. I know shooters that will not deviate from a certain round no matter what. For me, if not shooting CCI Mini Mags, then I will use Federal Champion 525 Value Pack. I have not had respectable results with Winchester products, either. Be it M-22s, triple number packs (222, 333, 555) or Wildcats.

And no means to light them...

I pruned back to a year..... I like to leave old posts, in case a member wants to reference an old ad....

You got snookered? heal up bud.

So your are now known as the "$249 Man"? Only $5,999,571 left to go. Heal well my friend.

I agree with @Mrs. Peel regarding learning bullseye shooting first. The A zone on USPSA target is about 4x11 inches. That's really big. The hit zone on a FBI Q target is enormous. All much easier to hot than a 2 or 3" bullseye. You need to shoot a group on a bullseye target first. Shots plastered all over a silhouette might be a good score but lousy accuracy. You worry about accuracy first and speed comes later. Once again, the amount of lead you send down range has nothing to do with your skill level. As I related above, 3 people, 3 hrs, maybe 300 rds and we got a lot done.

I believe, after reading lots of things on Reddit, that these people are really this stupid. There's no doubt, the population is getting dumber, thanks to smartphones and social media. The current Millennial population is proof of that.

Expectations are low and I get the best parking spaces.

The reason people get jumped on here is because someone who has no idea what they are talking about posts something here as if it is fact, when if they only had the slightest bit of reading comprehension, or did the slightest bit of research, they would not make a fool of themself. And it gets really old hearing the same incorrect bullshit get spewed time after time, and confuses people who in the future google "hexmag nj legal" and bullshit like this pops up and they think their legal (10) round hexmag is illegal. There are grey areas and there are clear black or white areas, and don't act like you know for a fact in either case when you don't actually know, or we will get another 10 page topic on if we are allowed to modify a 15 round magazine to 10...

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no, they haven't, and it'd be good if you people would stop broadcasting this shit out in the open, giving the powers that be the ideas to make them illegal.

Thanks Ray Ray.