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Are NJ Dems this stupid or this brazen? They are handing us ammo for the magazine limit lawsuit. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

in a way, i think this is good. they're making it perfectly clear now that there's 2 sets of laws. i think that'll get them slapped down.

I would never disagree with @High Exposure because... I consider him to be all-knowing, especially on gun-related things. But, fyi, there was just a case a couple of weeks ago when someone on here had a friend running into problems with a local PD. I know for a fact that an ANJRPC attorney called that PD on the issue... and BOOM!... the problem magically disappeared. ANJRPC is purposefully close-to-the-vest on communicating this stuff (too much so for my taste)… but they are constantly following up on these cases (they just don't give ANY feedback to the original complainants which I think is a communications error) So, add one more to the other peanut gallery opinions you just got! ….if I were you, I would do the following >>> Take a little time off sooner rather than later to pick up the packet. Take digital pics of any of the "extra" forms or requirements. Attach those pics to your email to ANJPRC (and/or to NJSP or NJ DCJ as High Exposure recommended). I just think it's important for you to get the PROOF of what they are requesting, and to FOLLOW-UP on it with someone who can properly address it. Why? Because it helps the NJ 2A community as a whole when we, as individuals, report these things). Then chill-axe. In September, when you're ready to take your day off... print out the "correct" forms, fill them out and bring them to the JCPD. The problem will likely be "fixed" already. Hell, if you use the strikeforce email, the JCPD won't even know it was you that complained. Why does the ANJRPC attorney need to mention YOU, after all, if they have the illegal forms in their hands? It's not like you're the only person picking up a packet, after all. But, please don't just "go along" with their illegal requests... that's why these departments get away with this crap. Too many people capitulate.

Ahhhhh, part of the protected class.... ....."The new measure, S-2846, "allows a law enforcement officer to possess and carry while off-duty a large capacity ammunition magazine capable of holding 17 rounds of ammunition or less," according to the text of the bill. It also allows off-duty police to possess a larger magazine "provided it is used with the officer's service firearm issued by the officer's employer." The law would effectively establish different rules for how much ammunition police and civilians can carry. It's unclear whether the existing law has affected any active-duty cops.

Yeah it's a cheap optic - I just threw it on first. I've got a Vortex Strikefire that will go on.

OK, I'm willing to reveal my astounding computer ignorance!!! Yes, after 2+ years on here... I only just discovered this shortcut. When you're logged in, of course, you see a "quote" option at the bottom of each post that you can click on to copy that entire post into your comment field. But, sometimes, when it's a lengthy post, maybe you really only want to quote a pertinent sentence or two. What to do? I'm a Luddite, so I was using the "quote" feature at the bottom, and either (lazily) leaving the whole quote intact or (stupidly) going into that text box and editing out some of the unwanted text. Dumbass. I just realized (quite by accident) that if you use your cursor to highlight just the little section you want to quote, a little black box pops up that says "quote this" - then you can click on that box and it pulls ONLY the highlighted section into your comment box. Go ahead... MOCK ME... I can take it. LOL. But, what can I say? I just didn't know this shortcut until I tripped upon it. If we all used this feature regularly, frankly, it would tighten up our responses and we'd all have a lot less scrolling to do.

Don't be offended, I've been on one of these computer thingies for multiple decades and still learn new tricks all the time. My feeling is, the day you stop learning new things, is the day you die.

I've been doing that from the beginning. It definitely saves all that time editing out the text you don't want in the reply. Nah, we wouldn't do that, but it does show, you CAN teach an old dog new tricks.

Well, as many have pointed out, "all sorts" hurtle down our highways and byways in potentially bone-crushing vehicles... and yet people purposefully running down other drivers or pedestrians is a statistical rarity. Likewise, national studies on gun crime show that legal gun owners commit gun crimes at incredibly low rates, whereas ex-cons are responsible for the lion's share of gun crime. So, I go where the facts lead me... and I'm still not the least bit worried about the law-abiding types who willingly submit to the legal process of getting a background check, getting a permit, etc. The overwhelming evidence reveals those folks are NOT the problem. So, I say: bring on the freedom... I'm confident our fellow citizens can handle it.

So, it's true...? An armed society is a polite society.

If no one uses it because the law was overturned in court or otherwise, more power to us as whole. We're all gun owners and we're all in this together.

Now that we have chewed our way through all of the dealer magazines, we will be opening orders for retail magazines next week. At this time, we will be working on Gen 2 30rd, Gen 3 20rd, and Gen 3 30rd host body magazines. We have plans to work on others but considering these three models account for the overwhelming majority of magazines sold, we prioritized getting the process ironed out for these first while we check to see if it works with the other platforms as well as source more baseplates.

No specific agency packet needed. By law, the local PD can not add to required NJ FID/PtoP paperwork as defined by the state. Download the appropriate forms and bring them to the station already completed but unsigned. Contact the NJSP or N.J. DCJ if they will not accept your application or process it in a timely manner. You aren’t being confrontational or antogonistic. You are merely following the AGs directives and correctly (at least as N.J. sees it) jumping through a number of hoops. If they are not, because they are adding subsequent unnecessary hurdles, that is on them.

Not saying "not for thee" at all. It needs to happen. It's very past due, but it's going to be an interesting ride none the less.

Good for me, not for thee is what has got us where we are. Think about it

These are the traitors sponsoring the bill: Sponsored by: Senator LORETTA WEINBERG District 37 (Bergen) Senator STEPHEN M. SWEENEY District 3 (Cumberland, Gloucester and Salem) Here is the revised text: (b) Nothing in subsection j. of this section shall apply to a law enforcement officer who possesses and carries while off-duty a large capacity ammunition magazine capable of holding not more than 17 rounds of ammunition that can be fed continuously and directly into a semi-automatic firearm. (c) Notwithstanding subparagraph (b) of this paragraph, subsection j. of this section shall not apply to a law enforcement officer who possesses and carries while off-duty a large capacity ammunition magazine capable of holding more than 17 rounds of ammunition that can be fed continuously and directly into a semi-automatic firearm provided the large capacity ammunition magazine is used with a service firearm issued to the officer by the officer’s employer for use in the officer’s official duties. I was thinking about this when out walking the pup a little earlier. These assholes in Trenton are basically saying our lives and personal defense are worth LESS than the life of a off-duty police officer. These are the dirtbags in Trenton where WE PAY THEIR SALARIES. How does this new information get out to ALL gun owners and FUDDS in the state so everyone can see the disdain for the average law abiding citizens held by the politicians we pay in this state?

yup

Can you say 14th..... I hope they do.....

And the packet came today (7/26). But from what I heard, no pattern with how packets are sent out. Likely do a bunch and send the when they get a large enough pile. No CD with laws and no safety/security info... and two memos saying they were backordered (probably updating the CD). Have a few forms, including Theft/Loss Report (3310.11) and Amended FFL (5300.38). I downloaded most of the forms I likely could consider using, and leave them on my computer. Also have instructions to get the 2014 FFL Reference Guide, which I ordered from the GPO prior to receiving my license (I like having the book in hand, but PDFs are linked on the sheet). Big things was the brown C&R book and the open letter to all FFL 03s.

Probably. I'm going to test it when I can but I have no idea. If it holds I may keep it on. It's an ugly sight though.

Peel... There is the ban hammer, and then there is the Taylor ban HAMmer. The latter is impotent compared to the former.

Mrs. Peel, Thanks! I always wondered how to do that! You are truly one of the greats!

Funny I found it the same way

Ty, as always, you are a class act. Thank you.

Agreed. Absolutely. I’m just pointing out that in the other 40 odd states there’s an inherent gun culture. They were raised with them from the cradle as tools. I suspect should this come true for us there will definitely be growing pains. An adjustment period if you will.

International Champions Cup games are at the half. Juventus v Bayern Munich is the big one tonight. Damn Juventus is up 2-0. Games are on ESPN channels. Also International Sniper's Challenge is on History Channel. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

You meet the nicest people at the range. The meanest on da internet

Where I am in VA now people open carry everywhere. You see people at the supermarket, main street, Wal-Mart, the park, etc. It is a way of life here. I personally CCW everywhere except when hiking. I do believe that it is a deterrent. Most people here carry a gun either concealed or open and everyone knows it. We don't have shootings and people are very polite.

I'm well aware of what a retention holster is. I've carried with one plenty of times, in NJ too, when I used to have a carry permit here. If could carry today in an ideal world, it would probably be a mix of open and concealed, mostly dependent on what I'm wearing that day. That said, I stand by my comments that open carry is most certainly not for everyone to do. However, it is up to the individual to come to that conclusion, not the nanny state.

In my world I’d put the two numbers together. But then I’d be like @PK90 running around without outer garments playing sneaky Pete.

Alright. Let’s keep it clean here.

Heller or McDonald (I forget which) I believe said you can't have qualifications, like justifiable need, on rights. One of the reasons DC permitting process fell. Surprised Jersey hasn't fallen. Soon though. Soon.

www.kars4kids.org You get at least a $500 Tax Deduction from it... more if they can sell it for more.

Meanwhile in New Jersey..........................

One good benefit of this forum.. you learn civics.

Ill take open carry

I haven't seen anything like this here, YET.

This was just 2 judges. It's possible that there are two judges who actually consider the facts on the 9th circuit.

They are up to something..... You do not perform 180dg turns like this without having something up your sleeve. This is not jurispridence, this is all politics. Do not be fooled thier end game is still total disarmament of the US citiznery

Wow this is huge. The reasoning more so than anything. Likely will be reversed by the full panel but could make it to SCOTUS. States could be forced to accept open carry. That would be great. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

This is Peruta part duex. The State will request en banc and they’ll overturn this 3-judge panel ruling.

Florida is always like this, especially the closer you get to the ocean. I have had rain in my front yard while nice and sunny on my pool side

The ATF already went over his books. He has had it for years. Early 40'S build. He is on his 4th renewel of his C&R. He has had his NJ C&R on its 4th renewal. So October 1st has nothing to do with it.

Not in NJ... you can have a C&R, the M1 Carbine is still an assault weapon under NJ law. C&R licensees must respect state/local laws. Don’t know the situation of the OP’s shoot, but if the person in question brings an M1 Carbine into the state of NJ, they are breaking the law. If he got it with his C&R license, it would be uncovered by the ATF at the next inspection.

Call me paranoid but NYC is serious about knives. They arrest people for just regular pocket knives. They make NJ look good. I like my freedom (as much as we have left). Re-adjusting my tin foil hat

I never looked at the Skeletool CX as from the photo's it always looked big. It takes the other Leatherman bits which I have which gives it more capability (but something else for me to carry). I also have the Leatherman 1/4" bit driver extension but I am not going to carry that plus sockets. Not a bad set of tools at 5 oz. I have to go handle it to get a better feel for it. One very minor downside is that it has a locking blade (which should be good) but that means I can't take it into NYC. I have gotten used to having to change knives when I go to NYC with a slip joint knife so just another pain.