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I am going to preface what I tell you that I am not a lawyer - so my advice is worth what you paid for it........ I wouldn't worry about anyone asking you to prove how you acquired them. It would be the obligation of law enforcement to prove you acquired them illegally. NJ does not register long guns, so they would have no way of knowing what long guns you own. There is no such thing as a crime of "possession of an unregistered firearm" in NJ (many people confuse NJ with NY where possession of an unregistered handgun is a felony). If you acquired these guns in another state the acquisition occurred there and would be subject to the gun transfer laws of that state, not NJ. It is my understanding that the statute of limitations on an illegal transfer of a firearm in NJ is 5 years, so anything acquired in NJ before that time frame is water over the dam.

I still love my 930. Safety broke on it - gotta fix that, but it's been reliable if I keep it clean. Jerry and Lena must murder their 930's with rounds through and rough handling...

Sounds like a good reason to have my daughter come home from school for a weekend. I think the last time I was at the range was when Zeke was president. Or was that Eisenhower? I forget........ everything is foggy since the unfortunate boating accident.

No way you'll only buy one shotgun. Get the one that'll do what you want to do first. for HD, I'm in the cheap and reliable camp. If you god forbid ever have to use it, you don't want your $3k shotgun sitting in an evidence locker (different if you do this kind of stuff for a living). Wait for a Mossberg 500 to go on sale around $200-250. this leaves you about $900 for your sporting shotgun.

I have read all the posts in this thread, and I have come to the conclusion that I know less now than I did when I first clicked on this thread.

... for my newly acquired Banshee MK57 which is only 4.6 lbs. I want to keep it as light as possible. There won't be much recoil so a cheap one would do, as long as the reticle stays where it is supposed to be. The center of the glass needs to be only 1.5" above the rail.

Looks like Colt has come out with 5 different Cobras. #SM2FO = Matte Stainless #MB2NS = Black Ion Bond #SS2BB = High Polish #TT2FO = Matte SS w/Black Cylinder #SC2BB = Matte SS w/Polished Cylinder (TALO)

Check out the above thread. I bought this gun a few months back and it has been flawless. It's light weight and cycles as fast as you can pull the trigger. I've put everything from light target loads to slugs through it and it ran it all. After putting a few hundred rounds through I still haven't cleaned the gun and it stills runs fine. In one of my posts I mentioned a failure to feed but that turned out to be operator error. I think that it would be hard to find a better gun for even close to the price.

Trijicon RM06 RMR: 1.2oz with battery Scalarworks Mount: 1.51oz absolute cowitness 1.65oz lower 1/3 cowitness

It can happen to a pump too... What makes it any different?

I don’t have Facebook either. Link worked for me. Try this: https://www.google.com/search?q=lena+miculek+shotgun+breaks&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari 4th link down titled “Please watch the whole video.”

It's 2018 - nobody judges anymore

MSRPs are as follows: #SM2FO = $699 #MB2NS = $899 #SS2BB = $1,299 #TT2FO = $749 #SC2BB = $636

pumpkin spice powder? color me basic

You can use it inside provided it's the right FLAVOR, lol Otherwise, highly doubtful as the HEPPA filters get clogg$$$$$ in them. There are SOME ranges that schedule a black powder shoot immediately prior to a scheduled filter change, thus allowing everyone to come out of the woodwork & make some SMOKE! Since the filters are dirty enough to change anyway, the additional income derived from the shoot helps with their cost

I used to have the same belief, but I've come to learn that in practice a pump is less reliable. Not due to the shotgun itself, but under pressure they are prone to operator failure via short strokes. So, maybe a pump is 99.9% mechanically reliable and a good auto is 99% mechanically reliable. However, unless you wrap your hand around the bolt while you're shooting, you're not going to have stress induced failure with an auto. In practice, it winds up making the pumps more prone to failure. It's not the guns fault, but it's a failure nonetheless and both equipment and operator failure will kill you just as dead. Zeke, as far as 930 love, none here. I've seen it fail Jerry a bunch of times and while I wasn't at world shoot, I did see the video of Lena's breaking in half mid-stage over there. If I recall correctly, it's because she wound up having to mortar it after a malfunction. She cleared the malfunction and then the stage after the gun broke completely in half.

If you want to go that direction (a Mossberg 500 to 'test the waters'), Howell Gun Works has been listing one on their Facebook page for $150. if you want to add a tactical touch to it; RayRay has been begging someone to take a stock/forearm off his hands for a week on another thread here.

http://www.mossberg.com/product/500-combo-fieldsecurity-54169/

Sam Adam's Octoberfest is in season. I like Sam Adam's Octoberfest. Jus sayin.

Bring him some Warsteiner

Can I have it? I’ll give you a dollar.

If you want me to help you smooth it out so it will last longer feel free to bring it over and I'll help you out, I'm 20 east of quinton. Pm me your number. If not don't just take it out of the box and shoot it. If you want it to last there are a couple simple things you should do first. BEFORE YOU SHOOT IT OR EVEN CYCLE IT. You have to clean up the sides of the extractor groove with some sand paper. You do not need a Benelli extractor like the internet says you do, all of those posts are old and we learned since then. You also have to smooth out the action bar where it rides inside of the receiver and over the mag tube. Same thing, just use some fine grit sandpaper and knockdown the rough edges. Both of those things should only take you about 5 minutes. Finally clean off all of the oil that comes on it and use some mobile one 5 W 30 on everything that moves. Do not do any standing on the mag tube. Also if you want to check out mine I'll be at Quinton on Sunday. There is a practice steel challenge Fun Shoot that you should come check out and bring some guns to.

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@Zeke This obviously would be my choice tti-m1-m2-tac-ops-upgrade-package

Yes for the last fucking time go buy it! Thats where i bought mine. You won't be disappointed. Tanners in PA usually sells them around 550 otd.

so do we have an official list of "who's bringin what"

Yeah. I think im gona slow down and just keep my eyes open. Handle some and what not. If i really want i can pick up two "lower end" 12g's for my budget. If im buying new theres no rush to buy anyways. Itll be registered either way. Stoeger m3k looks nice. Almost got one on trade a few weeks ago but dude wanted the retail price at buds online for a used one.. Btw HD isnt a must for the shotgun, just a plus. This new house is over 5,000 sqft and just over 3 acres, wide open. Neighbor is an 18 or so acre farm, also wide open... other side is a house a few hundred feet away... My go to HD weapon here is my LaRue AR built for specifically this.... lol.

A great source for magazines generally, and MecGar's specifically is: gregcotellc.com Not sure whether your Legion takes regular P229 mags or the newer P229-1 mags. Sig changed the dimensions of the mag well - make sure that you check the ones you got in your gun. I'm not certain which is which, but one is wider than the other. The narrower mag may work in the wider well, but will be a loose fit. Best to use the correct mags. You already have found the general opinion of Pro-Mag products. Maybe the ones you got will work, who knows? If they were universally defective they wouldn't still be in business. I wouldn't use them for defensive purposes. Couldn't find any source for the Ruger 10-round mags, other than Ruger at $45 and they are out of stock. I'd wait and see how the magazine injunction and lawsuit go before investing any money in 10- rounders. Adios, Pizza Bob

@Pew Pew Plates and @louu.. no love for 930? Thats @Ray Ray favoritest

OK, I'm calling it too. Having any volume like this and not knowing a Class 3! I'm in the wrong line of work.

The advice that people have been giving you since you first posted has been to get out and to try before you buy. There is no shotgun that's going to do everything you want it to perfectly. Light, short, cheap, no recoil, be perfect for speed sports and be perfect for sports that require patience. No one can answer what compromises you're willing to make on your "perfect shotgun" wishlist. You're looking for someone to say just get "X". It doesn't work that way. The amount of recoil and weight that I can handle alone is subjective and might be too heavy and kick too much for you to even shoot. The compromise in accuracy for a shorter barrel might not be something you're willing to make. IT'S ALL PERSONAL DECISIONS. There is no such shotgun as what you're looking for (which is why most shotgunners have more than one). No one can just answer what will be "close enough" to your wants and needs except YOU and you won't be able to decide until you shoot a few different shotguns. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

3-gun shotguns are great all-around shotguns due to the demands of the sport. They aren't pistol-gripped for quicker loading (great for NJ since they are all legal then) They are reliable if you pick one that isn't a mossberg 930 They all are set up with removable chokes and a rib-bead sight arrangement Barrel length is "moderate", 24" is standard, making them handy enough for home defense, long enough for the clay sports. They have big oversized controls for easy manipulation So, it just comes down to which one you want. The major players are the Benelli M2 field, the stoeger m3k/m3000, the beretta 1301 comp, and the Breda B12i. All of those except the Beretta are inertia driven. Inertia guns knock you around a little more than gas operated (Beretta) guns, but they tend to have more simple maintenance. Pick your poison. I shoot the 1301, I regularly shoot over 1k shells in-between cleanings and to this day have not had a malfunction. I've put a few dozen flats of shells through it. It shoots like a dream. I'll take it out for sporting clays as well, and it certainly will not handicap you. Keep in mind the 1301 is the same thing as the A400 mechanically speaking. Here's my wife with it at Nationals last year

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I just reread the whole entire thread just to be sure I'm not misunderstanding anyone's posts made. I do not see @Sniper22 posts conveying a "nonchalant" AKA "fuck it" attitude. He would be a fool to post these deterrents and layout of his home on the forum. Since this is all hypothetical. Let's say there was an intruder in his home and he did shoot and kill the person. Will the state prosecutor argue that he should have had a WML on his firearm even though he perceived that his life and family were in immediate danger? I don't see how a jury would find him guilty. What I'm seeing here is that people are already sending him to the gallows while the crime scene is still being chalk marked. Regards, TokenEntry

No idea. I rarely know what I’m doing that far in advance. :-)

Hmmm...Zeke, you report to us that you popped Blksheep's cherry... and you wonder why Voyager9 keeps dancing around your invitations?! And while you're trying to woo V9, @Handyman has been voicing some unseemly intentions towards @Greenday in another thread This is all getting a little Deliverance for my tastes. Men really are... strange creatures.

They're all yours. Keep your mouth shut. No FPID needed. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk

Right but making them compliant and having 10rd mags, will ruin resale if you ever wanted to sell it, like mentioned above, this is kind of a collectors piece.

Just remember that the Republican party controlled the federal government in all three branches for two years and holds a 5-4 majority on the supreme Court and no pro-gun legislative or legal action has been taken to aid 2A in any of the states where it is under siege. Not one victory. Remember that.

I believe the loaded mag in the trunk issue derives from a case several years ago on another state. The guy was charged with loaded firearm as the prosecutor interpreted the law as "any part of the firearm is loaded". The charge was eventually dropped. This is the only case I ever heard of with someone being charged with this. Since then everyone has this loaded magazine thing. I know Nappen suggests unloaded magazines but I don't see how he justifies it.