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@AVB-AMG this is the daily humor thread not the butt hurt because trump is still your president and is making America great again thread

Nice deal on a Stack-on 24 gun fire/waterproof safe $399 regularly priced at $539 BJ’s Wholesale, looks like it will be on sale till 4/24 I have no financial interest in BJ’s nor the safe company, just though it was a nice deal and passing it on.

I went to school at a different time in this country. Its a shame that the horror's and the failure of socialism isn't taught in schools today. This generation today is use to their parents and schools giving them a free ride. Why wouldn't they expect their government to do the same? How many of us who are in our 50's today when we were kids played on a baseball team with our brothers old glove? Or a bat from the garage, or had a job after school? I can still hear my dad's voice today. Put as much money away as you can. Don't think the government's going to take care of you. These kids today have no idea the danger that awaits them thinking a socialist government is their answer. Henry Ford said it best. “Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” Henry Ford

That's the thing about the socialist system. It is a jealous system. It does not seek to lift anyone up, it seeks to tear people down.

they originally charged me $65 times FOUR! the cashier rang up $294 (w/tax)! ....until I lost my sh*t, then settled around $130. Now I understand why their range is always dead on nights & weekends! Sad part is, Im literally 5min away and will never drop a dime there! THIS is why I prefer to only deal with one or two FFLs. too many assholes around me in north NJ. even tho I drive 90 mins to GSSC in Brick, he's has been the BEST in the business, and worth the 3 hrs trip! =Never been treated like a 2nd class citizen, especially as a newbie!

It's actually $1,150 but it is a beautiful gun. Dan Wesson Bobtail Commander with less than a box of ammo through it. Like new with an extra set of G10 grips.

Fixed that for ya AVB, MAG, QRST

I forgot there was such an exercise device as the hand gripper things. While I think it could definitely benefit recoil control, I don't think it would change the psychological discomfort of having the little finger off the grip. For the hand gripper, according to this buyers guide apparently the normal pounds of resistance is 30-45 pounds, but they claim that's weak as new born babies can barely get warmed up with that little bit of weight (paraphrasing a little). They recommend starting with 60lbs and working up to 365lbs for "Beyond natural levels of hand strength." So if you want to crush coconuts with one hand, start with the 60 and go from there.

From a pure shooting standpoint, the bottom finger of your grip - preferably the pinky - is the most influential out of all your fingers when considering speed and accuracy. Can you shoot well without your pinky on the grip? Sure. But nearly everyone on the planet will shoot better with all of their fingers in contact with the grip. It’s leverage. The longer (talking length - not time, here) your grip is, the more leverage you have to combat recoil induced muzzle flip. Would you swing a hammer with your pinky off the grip? Turn a wrench using only your first three fingers? Hold a baseball bat or tennis racket with your pinkies hanging out in space? Of course not. It feels weak and uncomfortable. I agree with Ray. I see it all the time when people are buying guns. They want the smallest gun they can get, then they realize they shoot it better with a full size grip and fix it with mag/grip extensions If you are gonna get grip extensions anyway, just get the bigger gun. You will shoot it better, it will absorb recoil better, your split times will be faster, your draw will be cleaner. Ok, sure, it’s a little heavier than the smaller gun. By what? A few oz? Example: Glock 19: 20.9oz Glock 43: 16.2 oz So in an effort to save 4.7 oz someone will choose to carry a less capable gun that they don’t shoot as well. Then add an extended mag that makes the grip (the hardest part of the gun to conceal) the same size as the bigger gun anyway? Doesn’t make sense. Smaller guns have their purpose in certain circumstances, but a full size gun, that you can get ALL of your fingers on - especially your pinky - will almost always be easier to shoot accurately and fast.

The 1911 is a hell of a platform.

Ok this where the thread goes sideways.

Why are you so focused on TAKING money from the rich to give to the less fortunate who blow all their money? You know, the paycheck to paycheck crowd. Lack of self control in spending is the majority of the reason these people are poor. Why aren't you preaching for these poor people to spend LESS then they make or adjust their spending to their income? How's that for a novel approach? The key to becoming rich (which apparently you haven't figured out), is to spend LESS then you make. Did it ever occur to you that the reason these evil people ARE rich, was because they SAVED their money and DIDN'T blow their complete paychecks each week? The bottom half of the population (almost 50% of the population) doesn't pay any income taxes. So guess who is paying for all the government services YOU use every day? The RICH PEOPLE.

That’s a modern sub-grade condo with familial landlord

No, it really isent. Would you post black jokes on a predomitly black forum? Would you tell gay jokes on a LGBTQ forum? How about you step off your high horse and stop looking down on people as you do so often. Trump is your president get over it just like the vast majority of us did when Obama got elected.

@Ray Ray: When I started shooting again 5-6 years ago, I realized that I needed to exercise and strengthen some hand and finger muscles that are key to maintaining a stable and still grip on any handgun, eliminating any shaking. After trying a number of devices I found that this one was the most successful and beneficial for me to achieve my goal. Check it out... AVB-AMG PRO Hand and Finger Exerciser, Heavy Tension (9 lbs per Finger) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UMHURY/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_c_api_i_QrFQCbFB6GTQA

The air is better up here..

Yeah yeah, I’ll figure it out. Right now I’m hunting the perfect tofu and kale “meat”loaf recipe.

The American dream involves hard work and self-sufficiency. You clearly don't get it.

So you admit you have no right to see his transcripts or tax return, but want to, just to see what he is hiding? Once again post your tax returns and transcripts, we want to know what you are hiding. While you are at it why not let everyone go thru your house and belongings, after all if you have nothing to hide. Mighty hypocritical of you. I guess you work in some delusional job where CEOs have time to read the details on everything that goes on. Believe it or not, that is what the CEOs need. Day to day details need to be handled at a lower level. Or do you really think someone can read 1000's of pages of reports daily? So your ASSumtions about Trumps time in college is based on "a student's" recollections. Nice deductive reasoning Sherlock. But then again you think a couple of years in school, no matter what the result is more important than 60 years of real world experience. Once again, seek professional help. Your TDS is accelerating. Oh and by the way, posting non funny cartoons drawn by fellow TDS suffers is not humorous. You want to create a "I'm butt hurt because the drunken criminal lost" thread feel free.

You know that's bs. If you are born into poverty the only thing that holds you back is how devoted you are to bringing yourself up.

Tell that to Ben Carson. You clearly do not understand America.

Quoting a different post because of the length of your response. But here is the beginning of your issue. I'm going to say let's go ahead and sacrifice buying that Ferrari.  This is not your call. You don’t understand liberty and freedom. Neither you nor any politician gets to control someones life like that. Though I know you think you have a right to...... And regarding your comments on Walmart..... your assumptions are wrong. How do I know? My wife worked there for seven years. Their benefits are good. Their stock plan and matching 401k plan are good. Employees get quarterly bonuses. They have extremely generous assistance plans. And $15 an hour is ballpark avg for where people can start depending what job they apply for. Plus they are doing the $15 min wage thing...so in a few years, that will be the minimum. Maybe you’re also thinking..... these are rare jobs? Well, the 3 busiest Walmarts in the country are here in NJ? Kearny, Secaucus and North Bergen. Each has about 1000 employees each and does about a $400k in business each day. More on weekends. During Christmas season it would be $700 to $800k on weekends. Upward mobility is readily available. Many many store managers started as hourly employees. And on your expense scenario. Do you not understand that these are entry level positions? Taken by people who live with family or roommates? When you use your determination and effort, and get that dept mgr or asst mgr position, you can go rent that studio, or a low end house. And if you happened to be starting over for some reason and have some sort of decent work experience...you can start as a dept manager. Don’t like in store work? You a truck driver. They are hiring and as I recall, they start at about $100k. Yes....... $100,000 per year. oh yeah..... do you have a criminal record? No problem. You can be hired...the only background checks are for pharmacy employees for obvious reasons. Similar opportunities exist at other retail companies. It’s not unique to walmart. Although a company as large as walmart gives you lots of options. So.....the original issue..... YOU determine your future. Opportunities are many. It is not the problem of other citizens to carry your water. Suck it up and go make you way through life. You get back what you put in. Its all up to the individual.

Why don't you post your tax returns? Why don't you post your grades? Oh thats right its nobody's business but your's, but you think you have a right to see someone else's? How's about you post Odumbo's grades? Maybe his birth certificate? (that one being an actual requirement of the office) Oh and as to the report, Do you understand what "classified" means? And that releasing grand jury material is illegal? Really seek professional help for you TDS.

I think this is such a key point! Notice the assumptions laid out in some of these posts... that a young person starting out in retail should have their own apartment. Why? I've known many young people during my lifetime that stayed at their parents' home a little longer to save up a nest egg. This was, in fact, the "norm" throughout history! Likewise, I see some of my friends' kids who share apt's or houses, enjoying one room of their own and the rest is common area. The thing with the U.S.... is that our standard of living is so very high that people have a warped view of what life must look like. They confuse basic needs with luxuries. We don't even know what real poverty looks like as compared to global standards of poverty. I always chuckle when I hear the social justice types talking about "food insecurity" - or "food deserts" - we had to create these "invented" labels ("1st world" problems), because REAL starvation as a pressing social issue has been virtually eliminated for some time now. Does that mean I don't think that there are people who are hungry, homeless, etc. in this country? No, of course not. But, I also think our expectations of "standard of living" are ridiculously high. We've almost created a monster... we've made life so easy for the vast majority of people, they don't even value the concept of hard work anymore (because they've never had to work hard in their lives).

What's these neccesities that cost almost 500 a month? Cable TV? Jordans? iPhone? And these people don't pay taxes... You live in a bubble where you think hard work pays off... You could be the greatest Walmart emoloyee, at the end of the day, you still stock shelves... This is mostly a dead end job for most people. It's about skilled labor and productivity.. something that apparently goes right over your head. Now the reality is, the Walmart emoloyee lives a rather wealthy life in comparison to what it means to be truly poor is this world. The person you just described has it 100 times better than my father and his poor family did not 60 years ago and nothing stopped him from becoming wealthy.

If it’s a smaller one, I can fit it on my smoker.

They already pay WAY more than everyone else .....and btw way......get NOTHING more in return. What planet have you been living on. And re your second comment above..... if someone gets $15 an hour do work in some job....and you say....they ‘deserve’ more....despite the business model indicating thats true.....then you are asking that they get something for free and not have to work for it. How about this......If you work in Walmart making $15 and hour.... work hard and become a department manager for $20 an hour..which is about $41k a year plus your very decent benefits. Then continue to work hard and learn that job until you can apply for an assistant manager job and make about $55k a year. See where this is going? If you continue to do your job, learn and be responsible, apply to be a co-manager of a Walmart and make $85k to $100k a year...plus those nice benefits. About 3 to 5 years will have passed. Ina couple more years you can apply to be a store manager and $150k to $250k. All without having earned a 4 year degree. But by the way....they have a tuition program if you decided you wanted to pursue that. Fantasy you say? Nope. This is fact. You, or anyone else in this forum can go apply there today and get a job in a week. Some might start as that asst mgr. some might not have the experience. They no longer do drug tests. So if you like weed....it doesn’t matter. Not a super genius? These jobs require dedication and responsibility. Not brilliance or a STEM degree. This is how the free world works. Your vision of it is a crutch for the lazy. Now....if you are disabled...sick, mentally ill..... thats different. We already have a system to help those people. I know of couple of thee people. One goes to Disney every year. Has had free cosmetic surgery. Twice...... Won’t work more than 15 hours a week and her kid is in college in Florida. In this case however, she is abusing the system. She needs to be kicked off it. Ironically her ACTUAL disabled older sister who lives in a wheel chair is a professor at Rutgers and is grateful for the things she is able to do.

Just watched the Netflix movie “The Highwaymen” with Costner and Harrelson. Based on Texas Rangers Frank Hamer and Maney Gault while on the hunt for Bonnie and Clyde. Decent movie with lots of good classic guns: S&W M1917, Colt Monitor, cutdown BAR, Thompsons, 1903s, Remington Model 81, Winchester Model 1892 Pretty good way to spend a couple of hours.

Actually, the decline of the middle class is much more correlated to government spending and bloat. 45% of the American public doesn't pay taxes "And no where have I ever said anyone should be given something free and not have to work for it." So you think this is wrong then?

Because gun forums mean you have to be a rude douchebag who can't follow simple rules? More than 8,000 other people don't seem to have an issue with it, not ask a question that any gun owner would know or have an idea of... ammunition is not rocket science... it won't go off unless you crush the primer... and even then... not unless you are holding it closed over your hand. Think fireworks and why guns have a barrel.

If your budget tops at around $1300 then I would get a Springfield TRP. TRP stands for “THE Right Pistol”.

My New Vaquero convertible is good to go. Only issue... I can’t do polished. Don’t keep up on it enough to look good. And if you don’t do that, looks like ass. Bead blasted it, and a lot more user friendly. Plus, I like the look.

I've been wearing a handgun nearly everyday for 35 years, so I find the pinkyless grip quite comfortable. In fact, I now have one that only my middle finger holds the grip.