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Wet Roasting LOL AKA Braising Nope.. The smoke causes pollution. Liberals consider Electricity clean regardless if its coal powered. Yes Liquid BBQ Sauce. Plus... This does not look fun.

Bro....I've avoided weighing in because enough people on this thread have shown you where you went wrong. But here goes: 1. Crock pots are for millenials and velveeta-beer-cheese soup makers. 2. Ribs are just pig parts unless properly smoked over flame with wood, It aint BBQ any other way. 3. Sweet Baby Rays is the Shit - but if you put it on my ribs when you serve them to me i'll disown you. 4. I've made ribs under vacuum (sous vide) in an immersion circulator and finished on smoker. Yeah...I Teslafied outdoor cooking...so what? Edit: 5. "fall off the bone" ribs = you're doing it wrong. Bite through and pull away from the bone, but only what you bite comes off.

Looks like a late '80s Dust Buster.

I wouldn't be too quick to bet against a Texan in a BBQ contest, especially if you bought your cooking gear at Bed, Bath, and Beyond.

I’m a long horn

If you make 'em right dry ribs still drip deliciousness all the way down to your elbows if you let them. Wet ribs are better the next day. I bring them into work for lunch to make my coworkers envious.

most of us do not live in mexico

Not to worry, a new batch will be available on January 2, 2020

I was wondering about that, how many other businesses still use NCR forms and dot matrix printers? Hasn't technology made them just about obsolete? Multiple PD's didn't realize they were getting close to the bottom of the case of forms? Really? We're to believe that?

Bring your best, buddy!!! I might do REAL bbq ribs...you know, how they are supposed to be done...on a smoker.

I recently had an acquaintence express an interest in gun games. In addition to directing them to the respective organizations website and to search You Tube, I put together the following... Practical Gun Games: USPSA & IDPA USPSA = United States Practical Shooting Association IDPA = International Defensive Pistol Association Practical gun games is used in the sense that we may actually use some of the lessons learned from these games should we ever face a lethal encounter in the real world. Please be aware, these are games and as such in no way represent the stress you would be under, or the circumstances of a real world encounter. What these games will do for you is: Ø Familiarize you with the draw and presentation Ø Familiarize you with your gun Ø Teach you how to clear malfunctions Ø Teach you how to shoot while on the move Ø Teach you various tactical aspects of target selection Ø Familiarize you with reloading on the clock Ø Teach you the importance of accuracy and speed Ø Make you a better shooter The title reflects the two disciplines most often encountered. USPSA (the United States branch of the IPSC – International Practical Shooting Confederation) and IDPA. IPSC/USPSA came first (in the mid to late 70’s) and has evolved into today’s sport. In the beginning it was most often contested using 1911 semi-automatics chambered in .45 ACP. The 9 mm was also used, but was scored at a disadvantage. There were power factors established, calculated by multiplying the bullet weight by the velocity and dividing by 1000. Major power factor ≥ 165, while minor was ≥ 125 but < 165. Throughout the 80’s the face of IPSC/USPSA changed with the firearms used becoming very specialized, using compensators (to reduce recoil) and using smaller calibers to increase a gun’s capacity. Often these smaller calibers were “hot-rodded” so they could make major power factor. There were classes added to accommodate these changes, but the game got further away from the practical aspects and leaned much more toward the gaming aspects. That evolution has led to the creation of the following divisions in USPSA for competition: Ø Production – The gun is used, pretty much, as produced. Must be approved for the production class. Production is scored as “minor” regardless of caliber used, and restricted to 10+1 rounds. Ø Limited – A number of modifications are allowed, but the bias is still toward a stock firearm. There are no capacity restrictions, there are size restrictions (there is a box in which the firearm, with the magazine inserted has to fit), and it is scored as major or minor depending on caliber/power factor Ø Limited 10 – As above, but with a 10+1 capacity restriction Ø Single Stack – Created basically to accommodate the 1911 pistol, but any single stack magazine gun can be used. Major caliber is restricted to 8+1 capacity, while minor is allowed 10+1. Ø Open – Pretty much anything goes. This is where we find the “race guns” that took this discipline out of the realm of the practical. Optical sights, huge magazine capacities and all manner of modifications to the gun itself, as well as very specialized ancillary equipment. Ø Revolver – This class used to be restricted to six rounds – the gun could be chambered to hold more, but a reload was mandatory after 6 rounds were fired. As of 02/01/2014 the division was opened up to include eight round revolvers. Eight round guns are scored minor regardless of power factor (must equal or exceed minimum power factor of 125). No barrel length restriction. This led a number well known shooters and gunsmiths to invent, what they felt, was a more practical game that more accurately reflected what may happen in real life. The IDPA was founded in 1996. Some of the fundamental differences were that the firearm used had to be basically stock. The only modifications allowed were those that you might actually make to a gun you would carry for self-defense. Likewise the equipment used would have to be practical for all-day carry. Holsters had to be mounted on the belt that is threaded through the belt-loops of your pants (USPSA allows an over/under belt configuration in all classes) and holsters and magazine carriers had to be no further forward on your belt than the points of your hips, and you must wear a concealing garment that allows you to stand with arms outstretched without revealing your firearm or ammo. Like USPSA there were divisions established to level the playing field. They are: Ø SSP (Stock Service Pistol) – Very few modifications are allowed. This division encompasses most traditional DA/SA semi-autos and DAO as well as any “safe-action” pistols where the striker is only partially cocked upon the cycling of the slide – this would include guns like the Glock and the S&W M&P. As of 10/01/2013 Springfield XD, Walther PPQ and other pistols that fully cock the striker on the cycling of the slide will also be allowed to compete in SSP. SSP is scored minor, regardless of caliber. You must make minor power factor. 10+1 capacity restriction. Ø ESP (Enhanced Service Pistol) – A few additional modifications to the gun are allowed. This division encompasses all SA pistols and is also scored minor, regardless of caliber. You must make minor power factor. Capacity is restricted to 10+1. NOTE: there are weight restrictions in both SSP & ESP divisions. Ø CDP (Custom Defensive Pistol) – This division was created basically for the 1911 pistol chambered in .45 ACP, although other guns chambered for .45 ACP may compete. You must make major power factor and capacity is restricted to 8+1. Ø CCP (Compact Carry Pistol) – this division was created with the 03/01/2015 rule changes. Pistol must fit in a reduced dimension box and have a maximum capacity of 8+1. Scored minor with the minimum caliber to be 9x19mm. Ø REV (The creation of one revolver division with two subdivisions was a result of the 03/01/2015 rule changes)– Subdivision SSR (Stock Service Revolver) – Pretty much as indicated by the name of the subdivision. Restricted to loading six rounds at a time (7 or 8 shot revolvers may be used, but only six rounds at a time may be loaded). Loading to be accomplished singly or by a speed loader. Maximum 4.2” barrel length. This division has a power factor of 105. Subdivision ESR (Enhanced Service Revolver) –Again, restricted to six rounds loaded, but loading can be accomplished using moon clips. Maximum 4.2” barrel length. This division was created to accommodate the S&W 625 revolver, but any revolver that can make the power factor may compete. Power factor for this subdivision is 155. Ø BUG (Back-up Gun) – Also the result of the 03/01/2015 rule changes – Again there are two subdivisions within the BUG Division. BUG-S is for semi-automatics of .380 caliber or larger. Barrel length of no more than 3.6” and a division capacity of 5+1 rounds with 6 rounds in each additional magazine. BUG-R is forrevolvers and all equipment rules for the SSR sub-division apply. Maximum barrel length is 3” and minimum caliber is .38 Special. There is a reduced dimension box into which BUG firearms must fit. In both disciplines, there are classes, within each division, based on the shooters ability. This is so you are competing against people with similar skill sets. In USPSA these go from D (the lowest) through C, B, A and then Master and Grand Master. In IDPA they use the more familiar Novice, Marksman, Sharpshooter, Expert, and Master. You shoot as “Unclassified” until you shoot enough matches with classifier stages (USPSA), or participate in a Classifier match (IDPA and USPSA) to be awarded a rating. Equipment varies according to the discipline and division. IDPA is pretty straight forward across all divisions and is outlined as above. Only thing I’ll add is that there are restrictions on holsters and mag/speedloader/moon clip carriers. Primary among these is that the holster must cover the trigger. The same is true for USPSA, but in the two Limited divisions, Revolver and Open, very specialized holsters can be used. These are skeletonized and adjustable in a myriad of ways. These holsters and the accompanying mag holders may be placed anywhere on the competitor’s belt. In Production and Single Stack the holster a mag carriers must be behind the point of the hip. As a new competitor, it is less costly to shoot IDPA. There is less equipment required, and the stages are shorter (fewer rounds fired) than in USPSA. For the basic comparison we’ll only deal with Production (USPSA) vs. SSP (IDPA). The holster is a given, but the number of magazines needed differs considerably. IDPA restricts the shooter to two magazines on the belt when the buzzer sounds (some smaller capacity guns may be allowed more magazines, but it is rare that someone would compete with such a firearm). Therefore, you only need three magazines (two on the belt, one in the gun) to compete in IDPA. Stages in IDPA are restricted to no more than 18 rounds total. Contrast that with USPSA which may have up to 32 rounds per stage, which means most competitors carry a minimum of four additional magazines on their belt, making the total needed five. The need for the additional ammo in both disciplines has to do with the rules governing scoring and reloading. In both disciplines some stages may allow you to shoot extra rounds at targets to make up for misses or just as “insurance” – the number of hits required on a target is specified and only the best hits, up to the number specified, are counted. On some courses of fire the exact number of rounds to be fired is specified. You are penalized for any additional hits over the specified number and they delete the extra shots starting with the best shots first. On some courses of fire, it may be advantageous to reload prior to the gun being empty, so a magazine with rounds remaining may be removed from the gun in order to have a full magazine for the next element in the course of fire. This is more common in USPSA than in IDPA because there are no restrictions on how many magazines you carry and when and where you can reload (change magazines) in USPSA. In IDPA, as previously specified, you can only carry two spares and you are penalized if you do not retain a magazine that still has rounds in it (reload with retention or Tactical reload), or if the gun is not at slide-lock (empty). The only time you can “drop” a magazine in IDPA is when the mag is empty and the gun is “dry” (slide locked back) referred to as an emergency reload. You must only reload behind cover, if available – some stages (standards) are shot entirely in the open. If cover is available and you are in the open when your gun goes dry, you may initiate a reload while moving to cover. You cannot re-engage targets until you are behind cover and you are penalized if you present yourself with an empty gun to a target that has not been neutralized. Stages (courses of fire) in either game may consist of a number of elements, including, but not limited to, paper targets and “no-shoot” or “non-threat” targets (used to partially obscure hostile targets), steel in various configurations that must be knocked down to score. Targets that pop-up, swing out or otherwise move, usually activated by shooting something or manually activating it just prior to shooting, are also used. Various hard cover and props to simulate things like doors, windows, cars, barriers etc. are used. Because of the higher round count available, stages for USPSA may contain a larger number of these elements. The Match Director or Range Safety Officer will read a description of the course of fire. USPSA allows you to walk the stage prior to shooting. This allows you to check out the best vantage points for shooting, calculating where it may be best to reload and your general movement, or lack thereof, throughout the stage. IDPA allows five minutes at the beginning of any stage to examine it, but still eschews “air gunning”. It is advantageous not to be at the top of the shooting order. USPSA is more of a Run-n-Gun type of game. You determine in what order you want to shoot the targets, when to reload and any movement you make during the course of fire. IDPA is more a thinking man’s game because there are more rules that govern how you shoot a course of fire – things like “Tactical Order” or “Tactical Priority” that dictate which targets must be shot first, based on the position of the target relative to the shooter. Movement is dictated and you may be penalized for not shooting on the move. Likewise you are penalized if you do not shoot from behind cover when it is available. There is just more to think about with IDPA. Scoring in USPSA uses the target points garnered from hits (points differ for major & minor for all but “A” hits) and the time taken to shoot the course of fire. Points scored are divided by your time to arrive at a hit factor. The best hit factor is assigned a value of 100% and all scores are then expressed as a percentage of that best score. If your hit factor was half of what the best shooter’s was, your score is 50%. In IDPA it is all expressed as time. The lowest time wins. There are negative target points scored and each target point equals .5 seconds which is added to your raw time. Misses are 5 points, procedural errors add 3 seconds, hits on a non-threat target adds 5 seconds, and a “Failures to Neutralize” also adds 5 seconds (you must have at least one shot in the -1 point or 0 point area to neutralize a target. Even though you may have hit the target the required number of times – if there is not at least one hit in the 0 or -1 area, the target is not neutralized). Negative target points are added up, halved and that amount of time plus any penalties are added to your raw (actual) time for your final score. This is by no means comprehensive. To gain a better understanding of the rules, equipment and courses of fire, I encourage you to read the rule books of both disciplines (available on-line at the organizations respective websites). I often hear of people wanting to attend a match to observe, before they actually participate. This is understandable, but by and large, the majority of people that choose this route, express regret at not participating right from the beginning. All of the clubs where I have competed have been extremely friendly and very accommodating of new shooters. There is usually a new shooters briefing before every match that is required. In IDPA, you are not required to wear a cover garment for your initial match. Both disciplines allow participation in one match before requiring that you join the sanctioning body. No club that I have been to requires membership at that club to participate – match fees may be reduced for club members, however. Both organizations cost $40 for an annual membership. USPSA has a little better deal here. If you join at a match, you pay your $40 and shoot the match for free. Match fees for USPSA generally run $20 per match, with IDPA matches usually a bit less at $10 or $15. Major matches may run as much as $100 and are usually held over several days. Welcome to the world of Practical Shooting. Once you participate in your first match, you will never want to stand in just one place and shoot at a stationery target again. Have fun. Be safe.

SO lemmi So lemmi guess.. Your Cooking "BBQ Flavored" Ribs in crock pot while drinking a latte with extra foam and shopping urban outfitters for skinny jeans. True wiki is full of false info already

Having shot at pretty much every match (uspsa/idpa) around here, I can tell you they are all newbie friendly as long as you are focused on safety. Keep in mind, these are not sectionals, regionals or nationals. These are local club matches. You show up, you say I'm new, you take the orientation. The only person you are really competing with is yourself. Your first goal should be to complete the match without being DQ'ed for some stupid safety related issue. Not sure how it is now but when I helped do the new shooter safety briefs, if you announced you were a new shooter or shooting for the first time, you do not receive outside pressure and folks are there to make sure you have a safe and enjoyable time. Where folks get in trouble is when they try to compete and try to game the game without having experience or really understanding the rules. That is when DQ's happen for safety stuff. (i.e. moving with finger in trigger guard, breaking the 180, ND's, etc.) That generally happens when you are trying to "compete" without having the fundamentals down first or the experience. Yes, there are plenty of folks who show up to local matches to push themselves, but generally most folks are there to have a good time, to socialize with friends, etc.

You gonna make the apricot reduction in your crockpot?

It's a thing that goes on a gas can.

I feel like Glock in the 80’s

Sit and wait, you'll get a confirmation email saying your background check went through, then an email saying your permits are ready, then I would assume a call from NJSP saying to come pick them up.

Well.... Crock Pot ribs being called BBQ is an assault on real BBQ

Assault ribs?

Ya it’s Wet Roast @10X I jus invented it.

Even the damn Yankees here know true bbq better than you, Zeke!! You should be embarrassed.

Meat, dry rub, fire/smoke, and timing. That’s all you need to know to turn out amazing ribs.

Thanks for posting this, @High Exposure. I was actually coming on here to post SOMETHING about it... seemed inexcusable to let the anniversary go unmentioned. When I try to imagine what it must have been like for each successive wave of soldiers storming the beaches at Normandy - crawling over the bodies of those cut down before them --- wow! It truly boggles the mind. I would argue we're much too loose today with the word "hero" - we even use it for athletes for goodness sakes! But D-Day? That certainly was heroic! . And it's particularly (and strangely) sobering to be looking at the TV right now and to see that there was some serious training accident at a West Point training center this morning. 1 dead, many hospitalized apparently. Just a poignant reminder of continuing military sacrifice.

Dry ribs are for sissies. Real men get their hands dirty!

Solar power crockpot for awesomeness summer rib bbq and fondue party!

I went because of ray ban

A use a Crock-Pot for a lot of things.... But for ribs, I much prefer them smoked with a dry rub.

Just after the turn of the 21st century the S&W Performance Center manufactured a series of revolvers in partnership with some of their distributors and other vendors. These were not replicas or reproductions, but rather a homage to those revolvers of the first half of the 20th century. All but one model were done in classic revolver calibers – those being .38 S&W Special, .44 S&W Special and .45 Colt. The one non-classic, but iconic, caliber was .44 Remington Magnum. Also as a tribute to the Model of 1917, .45 ACP models were included. The Heritage Series were done in limited numbers, with issues running from as low as 102 guns to a maximum of 327. The largest purveyor of these was the distributor Lew Horton. There was also a run of Model 25’s for the distributor Sports South. Contributing vendors were Doug Turnbull Restorations, who did the real color case hardening of the frames on some models, and Altamont, the supplier of the stocks, most of which were, what are called, Legacy Panels – finely checkered minimal stocks with outstanding grain. The majority of these guns were delivered in gold cardboard boxes with blue metal reinforced corners. These were similar to the boxes used during the early 20th century and bore the likenesses of Horace Smith and Daniel B. Wesson on the lid. Some of the early production guns were delivered in Performance Center aluminum cases rather than the gold boxes. There were three finishes used on the Heritage Series guns. Not all finishes were available on all models. The finishes used were, of course, a deep lustrous blue and a shiny bright nickel. Those along with the previously mentioned Turnbull color case hardened frame that was used in conjunction with a blued cylinder and barrel. One model was a tribute to Ed McGivern. The Model 15-9 (available in all three finishes) has a plate affixed to the gun’s side plate, commemorating his setting of a speed record, which has yet to be broken. That record is for five shots on a playing card at fifteen feet, in two-fifths of a second. He backed it up with another five shot run of nine-twentieths of a second. This was set in 1934 when McGivern was 57 years old. These revolvers first captured my attention when I was just perusing various sites looking for revolvers chambered in .44 S&W Special – a favorite caliber of mine. I found the Lew Horton Model 24-5, with the color case hardened frame, shown here. It was from early in the production run (#25 of 327) and as such came in the PC aluminum case. This piqued my interest in these guns, so I started looking for others. I soon found one of the blued Sports South Model 25-10’s in .45 Colt. Unfortunately it did not have its original case, but it was an especially low number gun, being #10 of 150. It has been hard to determine what stocks this gun came with originally. It came to me wearing faux ivory Magna’s with medallions and a Tyler T-grip. In the package was also a set of the Altamont Legacy Panels, which I suspect were original to the gun. However, I have seen pictured, and referenced, Altamont Target stocks – replicas of S&W target stocks used from the 50’s to the 80’s and duplicated by Altamont for S&W on the Classic line of revolvers. Since I already have revolvers with the Legacy panels, and not in love with Altamont’s Target stocks, I went another direction and installed the set of Altamont Roper tribute grips, in Pau Ferro, that you see pictured. These are in keeping with the nature and time of the gun. Both of the above revolvers were built on my favorite frame – the N-frame. But there was something missing in my meager collection. What better to fill that hole than the model that was a tribute to the author of Fast and Fancy Revolver Shooting, Ed McGivern, the K-frame Model 15-9. I was fortunate to find one in pristine condition, in the nickel finish, complete with gold box and all documents. This is also equipped with the Legacy Panels and was #81 of the 139 produced. I didn’t realize it until I was in pursuit of the 15-9, that is, there was no set design from the outset, but what I ended up with is the trifecta of revolvers. The three iconic revolver calibers (.38 / .44 / .45) in Heritage Series, target version (adjustable rear sights) guns, in each of the three finishes available (color case hardened / blued / nickel). I think I’m done for a while. Just as a side note, the 24-5 came from Missouri; the 25-10 from Colorado; and the 15-9 from Massachusetts. ADDENDUM: Well, that didn't last long , what is glaringly absent from the above is a rimfire revolver. Smith did make a Heritage Series Model 17, but a unique opportunity presented itself this past weekend - a gun auction at a local (to me) auction house. Among the offerings was a post-war (1950) K-22 revolver in excellent condition. Not quite of the period of the Heritage series, but close and genuine... Now, maybe I'm done - but doubtful. Adios, Pizza Bob

They call NJSP... "Hey, we are running low on pistol permits.... send more." "Sorry, we are very low on them here. You will get them when available." I honestly don't think the issue here is the townships... but at the state level.

Now if NJ only joined the 21st century like the rest of America and used you know... the NICS system. lol. For the FFLs, when you call in NJ Nics, do you give a copy of the pistol permit number or no? We all know that the pistol permit has been a form of gun control since the advent of NICS, but "running out" is just a total WTF. The whole thing is a joke... especially living in PA. Like, you want a gun? Go to FFL, pass NICS, fill out forms, done.

Would be great if a news org like NJ.com would ask the governors office if this was intentional or an oversight...

The Sheeple will just accept this with all the other unconstitutional 2A laws stuffed up their butts without even a single whimper... It's what they normally do. Just another example of removal of our 2A rights, piece by piece.

Glad they didn't, they would have ruined the name, still might have fine cars, but Enzo would have started another company.

I lived through this. Ford wanted to buy Ferrari. Enzo was willing to sell but was going to put the stipulation on the sale no Ferrari engine was to be used in an Indy car. Henry Ford (III?) said screw you Enzo I'll beat you at your game. Ford developed the GT40 (40 because the car was 40 inches tall) and after a little rocky start wound up winning the 1966 Le Mans in a first, second, and third sweep You also have to realize the brutality of this race. Two drivers per car for 24 hours of racing. Not 24 hours of driving on the interstate but racing.

Make some noise.

I sometimes make my own bbq sauce from scratch, but lately, I’ve been using Sweet Baby Rays as a base. Its a mix of SBR’s, apple juice, vinegar, bourbon (Evan Williams), and some of my bbq rub. The bottled sauce is too thick and ‘ketchup like’ for my tastes, but it’s pretty damn good when it’s cut back and thinned out. Those of y’all who have had my brisket at the shotgun shoots, that’s what I brought. I believe that bbq sauce should always be served on the side...and never cooked on the meat....sauce is an add on.

I've made ribs a couple of times using Sweet Baby Rays Hickory and Brown Sugar. Try adding a cup of bourbon to the sauce. I've baked them in the oven on a low heat, then finished them on the grill. Yum.

Thems fightin words Zeek!

That's why I said super fugly and even that is too kind It's not a mossberg so who knows

It's the opposite of finding ballots in a warehouse. Oh look more votes for the progressive, under all these handgun permits.

Probably for the same reason the state roads didn't get plowed and/or treated in a timely manner this past winter: Incompetence!

How the @#$%^ can you be out of permits.

I just called The Gun Rack in Vineland and they said they have the petition today until 8PM (info above said it's tomorrow). On my way to sign it right now.

I signed the other weekend there.

THANKS! Look forward to meeting & thanking you in person! There's gonna be a cake for my birthday too!

Misplace permits in a warehouse somewhere, stop printing new permits, blame it on an unnamed vendor and BINGO! Totalitarian handgun control. Clever that Murphy.