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The range closures infuriate me, especially for the outdoor ranges. Separation of stations on a trap range exceeds the 6' social distancing recommendation, even at the 16 yard line. The same goes for separation between firing ports at most outdoor rifle and pistol ranges. Restrict gatherings in the clubhouse if you must. Maybe restrict the number of people in a pit, where the firing line isn't well defined. But to restrict people from standing on well-separated, numbered concrete stations outdoors? The firing line enforces social distancing in a way that you'll never see with other activities that are still allowed.

weinstein didn't virus himself

She should have dumped his worthless ass right there on the side of the road.

In NY the FFL uses the FBI website. It's fast and best of all no charge. Any state that sets up a middle man is doing it as a cash grab.

I disagree. The rate of DETECTION is growing exponentially not the rate of infection. Test 5 people 1 turns up with it. Test 5000000, 1000000 turn up with it. The rate hasn't changed at all. Now anyone with the sniffles goes and gets tested. (See drive thru running out of test kits in 3 hours) And still is no where near seasonal flu in cases, and fatalities. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm 38-54 MILLION cases in US, 23-59 THOUSAND deaths. Oh and these numbers are from only the last 6 months. The sky is not falling.

That was friggin hysterical!! I can hear Trump's voice as I read the transcript and see the exasperation on Xi's face as he can't get a word in edgewise! Now... if only ...

Their willful helplessness will be the doom of out nation. Americans used to pride themselves on self-sufficiency.

It's not unusually contagious for a natural virus. Yes, it's more contagious than flu, MERS, and Ebola. But it's less contagious than mumps and rubella. And it is MUCH less contagious than measles. Some representative R0 values are here: R0 Basic Reproduction Number

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Redneck bidet

True @Mrs. Peel, please lock and make @Zeke a moderator. Thanks

It’s an interesting thought experiment.. I think based on the science we should do some things. It goes back to personal responsibility. would I have a party with 20 people currently? No it seems a foolish enterprise to entertain. Am I going to travel to ck on people, yes. Can I do it after 8 pm? Why not. am I going to congregate with others at a bar or restaurant? No. That seems foolish as well.

just remember. they will never forget how easy this was for them.

And to get some actual numbers so the "Sky is falling crowd" would get over the "death rate". More and more its looking like this thing has been around since November. People got sick Doc:" No its not the flu, drink lots of fluid and rest". And got better. And some how the world went on without "social distancing" and quarantines. Go figure.

In retrospect, these pop up testing centers should have been created over a month ago... as cases started to be confirmed In these now hot spots..I dont think we ever had a chance to contain this with how long it spread before anyone knew... and I'm surprised this wasn't realized by our highest officials. Bergen community college, PNC... they haven't even been running a few days and shut down after 2 hours of opening.. the bergen testing center shut down before it even opened today. It's pointless now with everyone quarantined anyway... it is of little use to the general public.. It's amazing to me, to read stories of many people across the country looking to get tested early on, and being walked in circles by the professionals who have no idea what to do... when developing countries have already figured that part out.. I'm left with a few questions... Did the current admin actually think they were going to contain this? and how did they think that was going to happen by doing little to nothing domestically? If people didn't think covid19 was around them or had no way to find out if they have it if their own symptoms are mild, they would go to work sick because they need money.. everyone here has probably gone to work sick at one point in their life. Sick parents send their kids too schools...etc..

Just another sham, like that walker he showed-up in court with. He's hoping his leftist buddies will feel sorry for him.

Oh stop. It's not like you're a long standing member of the forum who's having trouble finding some rare part for a gun. You're like a noob who opened the door to a new club and asked if anyone knows where to get toilet paper. You're asking your question a few weeks too late. Like JackDaWack said, it's going to take a long time for things to catch up. If you have friends who shoot ask them if they have a box or two to spare, otherwise take it as a lesson learned and be sure to have some on hand for next time.

This is it. The only decision to make is whether someone is sick enough that they need to be in a hospital or if they can ride out an illness at home. It does not matter if it is corona, the flu, pneumonia or hemorrhoids. Right now people are supposed to stay away from each other, even if they feel healthy. The only advantage to testing would be we could probably identifiy a shit ton of people that had corona and didn't even know they had it. This would help to push the apparent mortality rate down to the real mortality rate and get rid of some of the panic. Added benefit, we could also get these people back to work asap to stop cratering the economy further. Only problem is I don't think you could test recovered people quickly - would probably need to be immunologic blood testing.

I was having this same "conversation" with a left leaning friend of mine. They were obssessed that "Trump lied and said anybody that wanted test could get one" but then they couldn't. Long story short, the CDC had criteria as to who and under what circumstances individuals would be allowed to be tested. And individual State Health Deparments, using the CDC criteria, did turn turn quite a few people. Where there too few testing kits. Maybe. Did Trump know there weren't enough kits? Who knows. Maybe he believed there were enough for the scenario he was thinking about (limited testing of those who fit the CDC criteria)? My logic is similiar to Sniper's. Not everyone who has a cough and fever should be tested. Then every Tom, Dick and Jane who thinks they may have it winds up sitting in a doctors office or ER with other people who definetly do have it. And if they didn't have it, well now the chances are much greater that they do. Also, werent the test rather unreliable? So let say you do have a cough and fever and you visit the doctor office or ER, crammed with people who do have it to get tested. Your test comes back with a false negative. Should you be less vigilant even though you still have a cough and fever just because your test was negative? And if you already have a cough and a fever you should already be taking safety precautions. Regardless if it COVID19, the flu, a sinus infection, etc, etc. Especially if you have contact with the elderly or those with preexisting health issues. The entire "if we only had more tests then we wouldn't be this bad of a situation" logic seems very flawed to me.

A couple of years ago I pulled over to help a woman with a flat. She was about 25, and when I pulled over, she already had the car up on the jack, flat tire off. She was struggling to get the spare out of the trunk. I did the rest of it for her. She was pretty happy to have the help. While I was finishing up, I complimented her on her ability to change a tire. She told me her dad made her change a tire before she was allowed to get her drivers license. Yay dad! When I stood up, I noticed a person in the front seat, reclining in the seat, playing on the phone. It was a guy, about her age. I made a comment to her...like WTF? Why is he sitting there while she was doing the work?! She gave me a look...and said, ‘that’s my boyfriend...and he didn’t know how to change a tire....and I’m going to dump his useless ass when we get home!! lol.

It will be sometime before Ammo prices return to normal. I strongly believe Trump will win big in 2020. After losing jobs and a lot of money in their 401K's and just the market in general people will vote for the man who wants to put America back to work. I saw the liberals and liberal news praying for a crash economy thinking that will take Trump out. I really believe the're wrong.

I'll trade you some Benny's for a few of the massholes that have invaded my town. They all wanted out of Massachusetts so they came up here and brought the virus with them. Fcukers decided to ride their snowmobiles on the cross country ski trail. One of them somehow got a large white rope stuck in their track right behind my house. I wonder how that rope got there.............

Well I read it , then constantly re read it here from a parrot. shouldnt we be focusing on where to get toilet paper, are you sick? Do you need anything. id argue most of our members are pretty well informed. And stay out of Bayonne

I'm intending to rack up astronomical credit card bills right before I check out.

Greenday and AVB-AMG don't count! They are not the minority.....They are the paid trolls!

As I said in another thread, this is the Back Door to the New World Order.

I love seeing the millennials sitting on the side of the road with a flat tire on their phones googling "how to change your tire". Idiots

I would like to think the majority of those on this forum are amongst the most well informed! It kind of goes hand in hand with responsible gun ownership!

And @PK90

I remember when Gary Del Abate said Baba Booey would never stick! @Zeke your only hope is to run for Mod again.....Win this time!.... And then spend the rest of your natural life eliminating all references to "Betty Crockpot" on this forum! You should have embraced the pressure cooker like I did! Best ribs I ever had!

Did I mention you specifically, Betty Crockpot? Although...you DO cook like one.

Make sure you go back down to whatever trailer park you came from too. Stay outta Bayonne

Most likely just gonna be cheap stuff being sold cheap.. Most of my go to AR parts are all in stock and dont seem to be grabbed up by panic buyers..

Christmas 2020 will have some slammin deals.

https://www.amazon.com/Tipton-Snap-Caps-12-Gauge/dp/B0048KKGN4/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=12+gauge+snap+caps&qid=1584876893&sr=8-5&swrs=9F378DAEA48DF82B3B54E78CB2993699

I stocked up on Ammo and Mags 3 panics ago. I'm sitting this one out.

@mipafox, is this true? If he responds then I will believe you.

Call J&J Firearms in Clementon NJ.

I know not south jersey but Reloaderz in wayne I think had 1 yesterday in stock. Lucianos in lodi said he was getting an order yesterday or today, and the silver bullet in rockaway had 1 on Wednesday when i was there. None south. But they are around. Good luck getting nics in before close.

I know there are at least a few unquestioning democrat faithful who are finding out what they voted for and that stuff doesn't work like their side claims.

"You mean I can't buy a gun online and ship it to my house?" "Why do you need references, I don't want people to know I am buying a gun." "Why does this take 3 months, I never committed a crime?" "It's easier to buy a brand new car off the lot than to get this permit."

Not sure what there is to jump on media wise... This is one of those times where the bullshit anti's spread is seen exactly for what it is, when their own sheep are looking to buy guns and cant... pushing the anitgun agenda might just remind them why they are left so helpless and exposed... Better to just keep your mouth shut and not remind your own supporters who made them so vulnerable... when the dust clears and people dont see a need for the guns anymore, they will kick the BS in full gear. Hard to convince someone who wants a gun and cant get one that we need to pass more laws... yey, im sure the many liberals who went to get guns only to be turned away will forget about this all next year..

When lefties control the news certain things tend to get screened out.