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I dropped off my packet at NJSP Washington Station this afternoon. The Sgt. at the front desk looked at everything in it and was clearly referring to a checklist as he did so. He said it looked complete and would pass it to their firearms person. He even volunteered her email address in case I had any questions to ask her. This is what I did: 3 x application form (SP642 6/28/2022) filled in on my PC and printed. My references signed each copy. I signed each copy in front on a notary at the UPS store he and notarized them. 1 x consent for mental health records search (SP066 7/23/2019) Which I signed and one of my references witnessed. The UPS store guy also did my photos. He knew what it was for as soon as I said I needed 4 pictures. He said he had done several already this week, but I was the first person to ask for 1.5"x1.5" rather than 2"x2". He made a mental note to help future customers. (I also was asked questions by the other staff at the store about how to get a gun and a permit - one was a young expecting mother) I got a money order for $50 from the post office and made it out to "Treasurer, State of New Jersey" - I have been advised by the NJSP trooper that handled my (failed) app in 2017 that the wording on the MO has to be exactly that. Anything else has been bounced before I did quals with a certified instructor that has been doing RPO quals for years. He is recognized by NJSP as being certified for that. He signed off that I did the HQC1 and HNCQ. He did not put his NRA certification number on the form so I got it from him and added it myself. I provided a photocopy of my drivers license and my certificate of naturalization. I provided a photocopy of the PtPP that was executed when I acquired each handgun I qualified with. I went to Identogo in Easton, PA this morning as there were no appointments available on the web site in NJ at all. I had to pay extra for out of state, but I was not prepared to wait. I booked the appt on Tuesday and went today (Thursday). I included the receipt in my packet. Before I handed it all in, I made sure I had a copy of everything for my records. Now the wait begins.

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Not many know what a pyrrhic victory is, I am sure you do....

AFAIK, buyers have had to present their FPID when purchasing handgun ammo for quite some time. I rarely buy HG ammo, but that has been my experience. The retailer logs the purchase. If I am correctly reading the new bill, which Phildo has not signed yet, all this changes is that retailers have to submit HG ammo purchase logs to the state, instead of just keeping a record. The way I read it, everything is the same, except retailers now have to actively report HG ammo sales logs to the state.

Folks, if the specific law in question is for dealers, why is anyone worrying about this ? As Glen said, order, get it and enjoy. As a side note, in the age of credit cards, internet and shipping, they got all the "records" and "tracking" they need.

If they aren't requiring it, why are you asking more questions? Submit your FPID and place your order. If that's what they require then just give THAT to them without stirring up a hornets nest that doesn't need to be stirred up.

There’s one in Airport Plaza on 36 in Hazlet. I think there’s one in Keansburg/Union Beach as well, on the Northbound (Westbound) side of 36, just past Laurel Ave.

This will in *time* all get sorted out...but for the liberal states, it will still take plenty of time to do so. And that is why words matter as well as intentions, elections and staying vigilant. Like in NJ, yeah technically you may get the license and be able to do nothing with it. You are not going to ever change the liberal states, until you change the mindset of the citizens and the politicians.....

Pyrrhic indeed. So now if you live in your private household in say Fresh Meadows, Queens, you can wake up in the morning, go to your safe to get your handgun because you have children in the house under 18, get strapped, walk to the end of your driveway with your carry piece and get the morning paper. Better not walk your dog while armed because if he steps on your neighbor's private property, you'll be in violation unless you have his permission. Pyrrhic victory! I see this getting dragged out forever in New York. California has gotten wind of the phrase "sensitive areas" and is craftily putting restrictions together. I suspect Maryland will be doing something similar as well. And to think the NRA contributed to K. Hochul's campaign in 2012.

This should be overturned almost in its entirety if it goes to a court still following SCOTUS decisions. Does NY State have one? Meanwhile, it's back into the foxholes for CCW holders. The only consolation is that now all the privileged characters who got their licenses in NYS are also screwed.

Yes, so is Male pregnancy and $54Mil set aside for illegal Aliens (In the new record breaking budget no one got to read)

but drugs are OK.......right.

No, if you change your address it's considered a new one and you'll need to renew every 10 years like everyone else. Hopefully this gets challenged

Love this guy! https://nypost.com/2022/07/01/a-93-year-old-man-shoots-los-angeles-home-intruder-police/?dicbo=v2-6c03b65b29bff46c4e7697ddb95ec567

this might be childish of me? but know what? i'm almost happier that this is happening on philthy's watch than i am that it's finally happening. because he keeps saying "not on my watch" type bs.

Smoke on!

I like the dot as low as possible in the slide with the lowest irons possible. If you’re buying a complete milled slide I think Gray Ghost Precision is having a pretty good sale on their slides right now as well. JW makes nice slides, but their prices are generally an little higher. I’m still a big Brownell’s fan. Can’t beat it for the money. If you already have the slide and are sending it to be milled, I recommend: DP Customs: https://www.dpcustomworksllc.com and Maple Leaf Firearms: https://www.mapleleaffirearms.com I have Glock 19s done by both of them and the work is outstanding, priced well, and quick turnaround with good comms.

My first RDS gun is milled with rear iron in front of the optic. That was from 2012 - I chose it because I thought it may protect the optic from brass. Ultimately, it was unnecessary. Once I start shooting, I don’t really notice it one way or another. I’d say, irons in back is pretty much the standard, but I have heard some pretty good shooters say it gives a better view of the glass and let’s you grab the dot faster.

i think that the business's having to specifically say it's allowed will be struck down. it should be the other way round.... actually, most of that should be easily struck down.

There is nothing realistic about shooting on any range, let alone shooting a qual course. It is not supposed to be realistic. It is a test. Take the word realistic out of your vocabulary when talking about qualifications. The purpose of the qual is merely to satisfactorily demonstrate you know which end of the gun to point at a target, you have rudimentary marksmanship abilities, and you understand the most basic manual of arms for the platform you are using (loading, unloading, reloading, safety/de-cock, malfunction reduction, etc…) That is it. Passing an HQC doesn’t make you Wyatt Earp any more than buying a guitar makes you Jimmi Hendrix. If you want to use a gun to protect yourself, or do do well in competition, you need to train accordingly.

They are thinking, logically, applying common sense in regard to their own desired end. Make it as difficult, time consuming and expensive, if not impossible for the average person in NJ to possess a firearm in NJ for any reason. I would say, that's the part no one says out loud, But actually Gov Beaver does on a regular basis and is proud of it at that.

UPDATE - The officer (Simone) just called me and said "Bring in your application!" The email to the chief must have gone over really well, because he was unhappy. This is an FYI to others in similar situations. Thanks to all for the help!

Can you tell us about the class at GFH how many hours what did the class entail & cost

The statutes say to submit it to the chief of police, so ask to see him and hand it to him. 2C:58-4 Permits to carry handguns. c. Investigation and approval. Each application shall in the first instance be submitted to the chief police officer of the municipality in which the applicant resides, or to the superintendent, (1) if the applicant is an employee of an armored car company, or (2) if there is no chief police officer in the municipality where the applicant resides, or (3) if the applicant does not reside in this State. The chief police officer, or the superintendent, as the case may be, shall cause the fingerprints of the applicant to be taken and compared with any and all records maintained by the municipality, the county in which it is located, the State Bureau of Identification and the Federal Bureau of Identification. He shall also determine and record a complete description of each handgun the applicant intends to carry.

I'm not sure, but I think it is an internal processing/receipt number for Identogo. ETA: Don't be too hard on NJSP. The ruling is only a week old, the AG directive less than that. These guys work shifts and have families they take on vacation. They will not all be instantly knowledgeable on every aspect of the laws, especially recently changed ones.

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KEEP SUING JERSEY INFINITEM. MURPH MUST COMPLY WITH THE US CONSTITUTION, PERIOD. WE DONT CARE ABOUT MURPH'S FEELINGS.

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Per the law they have 60 days or it’s automatically approved. They can have all the excuses they want.

Oh, brother, they've got excuses already.

Yes. Dropped it off at the police station Monday. Officer looked over my papers said everything looked good and he would call me when he forwards it to the courts. He said he has no idea how long it’ll be in the courts hands as they’re still backed up from Covid evictions.

He didn't care much about long term care facilities and nursing homes when he killed them without a gun.

"Until we see statutes, we don't know what we'll be fighting." - Dan Schmutter, Esq. The Gun For Hire Radio Broadcast: Episode 579 - Best Gun Range NYC and NJ Area | Gun Range Near Me

It's ironic, for me anyway, one of the reasons leaving NJ was the oppressive anti 2A agenda there yet I very much enjoyed the variety of shooting at CR. I've yet to find a range that can compete with CR that isn't 3 hrs away. However I do handicap myself because I prefer outdoor shooting and to befair there are a few good indoor ones near me but it's not the same as a day at CR, relaxing outside taking my time at whatever range I was at and the traditional days ending plinking away at the 22 plates. Enjoy CR, its a real gem.