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Her is my newest CCW gun. I haven't had it for long but it has really impressed me. This is an awesome gun with the best trigger of all of my handguns. It is barely larger than my P365 and will become my EDC starting tomorrow. The fit and finish are outstanding.

Yup, this forum use to be the shit for matches in the area, now it just is.... You mention matches on here and people say that's not real life or some other dumb shit. This forum helped get me into competitive shooting, now it's basically my life outside of the family. I even own a gun shop because of all this. I'll probably be opening up a training school pretty soon. Hell, even my wife shoots uspsa and SC. Just want to say thank you to all the OG's of this forum and all the match directors in the area!

No, straight forward low ready to firing position, two hand. I was untimed but it is too easy to do steady fire& some double taps. If you shoot once a month you should have no trouble taking the course offered there with very good results. Everyone in a class of 20 passed, one person was advised to get some additional training.

But still, aren't you worried about getting your lungs blown out by a large caliber 9mm?

Well atleast all those 50bmg senseless murders will be non existent now. Finally i can leave my house now

The Bruen decision has me thinking of what would be good to mess up NJ's web of crap laws. My #1 would be suing not over the purchase permits themselves, but over all the fees associated with it as an infringement on civil rights. The suit would attach damages, which would include all legal fees, and for NJ to return all associated fees to those who had been affected by them or their estate. If it needs doing for public safety, let the public pay for it via tax money, not individual fees.

I guess they are waiting to see if your application lays baby carry apps and grows wings. Lol.

I spoke with the trooper at NJSP Washington today. As of this afternoon, my application is the only one on her desk but she hasn't done anything with it yet - I dropped it off 6/30 so it has sat for almost a week (but over a holiday) She seems very nice and not an anti, so hopefully things will go OK. We joked about me being her guinea pig, but she has done permits before for armored car, etc.

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I just spoke to a 2A lawyer a few mins ago asking explicitly about internet ammo buys vs A1302...The best I understood him is if the Ammo Dealer cards you FID/Drivers license AND keeps a retrievable database of your ammo buys you can still buy from them. I didn't "get" from him that they have to proactively send it to Murphy, but only needed to provide it on request. PLEASE Note, I know this is different than what some posted above who said the dealer would need to send it without being asked, so don't take what I am saying as gospel. We need to get more opinions on this one hopefully from 2A lawyers. From what I've seen most internet dealers do require fids/license and keep a history of our orders (which you can usually pull up in your account). I (obviously) DOUBT any of them send it to NJ proactively at this time - so lets hope that is not needed, some might say screw you folks in NJ buy your ammo elsewhere. The Lawyer also told me - and this is shocking to a degree - that last time they passed a bill about ammo in NJ, Murphy actually had agents placing ammo orders from NJ to test many internet dealers. If they were not compliant with the new law (at that time) they would be threatened with a CRIMINAL charge requiring them to come to NJ for trial (OR) they can pay an aprox. $86,000 fine AND rat-out the gun owners in NJ who placed real orders and accepted ammo who would then be placed on some Shit List in nics or something...If the ammo dealer did all this it becomes a civil charge...In essence we would be held responsible for the dealers non-compliance. WTF!!! This is mind boggling stuff! Go out and talk to a 2A lawyer to get more opinions (especially the proactive sending of orders to Murphy) and report back - Please. C.A.

I recall my first match at Shongum...nervous as hell....but it was sooooo much fun. There was a guy on here, forget his name, moved to NC ..big coffee drinker etc. Tall white hair shot a Glock.... saw Maksim out... Pizza Bob, Krdshrk etc...and others.... was a lot of fun.

Mack, who lists her pronouns in her Twitter bio and says she is a “queer educator,” previously celebrated her teaching role, during which she taught “comprehensive, queer inclusive, pleasure based sex ed.” The state senator, the first openly gay black woman to enter the Rhode Island legislature, claims that the backlash to her stunt has nothing to do with the sheer idiocy of the act itself, but is because she is “black” and “queer.”

Ironically - the entire genesis of this site, in so much as I recall was centered around competition and USPSA/IDPA etc. Not that any of *that* is ever talked about anymore

They did the standard HQC-1, starting at 25 yards, holster.. 60 rounds. Passing score is 48.

congrats

Oh, that makes it okay then. I’d make sure he’s driving with you in the car when transporting through the state just so you can put him on the spot if you’re ever pulled over and he can do the explaining for you.

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I skipped over these guys for the longest time until I realized the genius behind them:

https://www.evannappen.com/how-to-get-your-nj-carry-permit/

Dont forget the senseless murders prevented or solved by : * Demanding that Criminals be trained before they are issued a FPID * Magical stamp with expiration date on FPID (only applies to new criminals. OGs have FPIDs that do not expire) * CSI Fairy godmother who can instantaneously tell who committed the murder from micro-stamping. etc.

I noticed that this morning. He's either in the process of getting 'em fixed, or his advisors told him that his presidential campaign is dead-in-the-water with those teef.

I actually find the bill targeting dealers and manufacturers to be most egregious of the whole lot of them. Have you reviewed the actual wording on that? NJ Legislature (state.nj.us) There's just NO WAY that's constitutional! It basically says, we won't specifically define what these harmful acts are... and you don't even have to knowingly have done these undefined acts... but if I (the almighty NJ Attorney General) see fit to CLAIM you've done some amorphous, harmful "wrong"... which I and only I know the definition of... I can shut down your business while I investigate (presumably taking my sweet-ass time doing so). Totally cray-cray. No wonder ANJRPC called it an industry-killing bill! I hope that a number of large 2A organizations - including those that represent manufacturers, like NSSF - quickly file a class action lawsuit against that. NJ's "leadership" (I use the term loosely) doesn't even PRETEND to follow the law. Saddest of all that an AG is behind this... who ought to know better.

Merged topic into existing thread.

Do you mean the pillow biter.

To have it settled, yes. You are looking at a 1-2 year horizon minimum, but the good news is that there's already a location case in one of the circuits already. Other good news is that you have to wait that long for a decision, but you do not have to wait that long for an injunction. So if they much with the statute, an injunction can be sought in a much shorter span of time. And we are 3rd circuit, and the judge assigned to the 3rd for such things is Alito. I suspect NJ understands this. Which is why they are trying to work within the existing statute. If they do like NY and write up a new statute, they can wind up with an injunction that leaves them with no carry law or significant portions of statute mooted until a decision. (This is essentially what happened in Chicago when they tried to avoid complying with their carry ban). NY is being more ballsy because their justice for such a thing is Sotomayor.

See the disclaimers on GHF web page and RTSP...........this is some stupid shit to run a qual course without any standards and take money............

Folks, if the specific law in question is for dealers, why is anyone worrying about this ? As Glen said, order, get it and enjoy. As a side note, in the age of credit cards, internet and shipping, they got all the "records" and "tracking" they need.

As I read the SCOTUS decision, I came across "common use" multiple times. NJ State has its agents roadm around all day and protect Politicians with all sorts of "Assault Weapons" and "High Capacity Magazines". Time to sue on that "Common Use" basis.

I just got off the phone with my firearms officer who has a package waiting for me down at the local PD station. It is said to include the qualification certificate as well as the course. I will post anything relevant online once I go down and get it.

Just found this video on youtube. Haven't had a chance to watch it yet. But it appears to be a complete run thru of the qualifications

Thanks...I'd seen that some years ago, didn't recall where i found it at the time. There is a lot of information there... For a quick look at what one might expect for the police handgun course (should that end up being what is required) the table below shows the requalification course of fire. There is another variation in the document for lower-capacity handguns. The initial qualification is a little different than the requalification, and is also described in the document, but not in a nice table form. The requalification has to be completed twice a year, with the duty firearm and duty ammo. So, while we're all waiting to see what exactly will be needed for us to apply for CCW in this state, you can at least hit the range and start practicing for what might be expected in the qualification course. Or at least practice those stages that your range will allow. I see some more dry firing practice in my future as well.

The decision has also laid the smack down to (banning)‘weapons in common use’. The way I read this, I think it might have positive effects for you guys on mag restrictions and other things. As others have said…give this a little time to sink in before going crazy. Thomas was pretty thorough…and pretty direct, on his beat down of anti 2A laws. I have just started reading Alito’s concurrence.

I know we all will be going through the motions over the next few days, weeks, and months. I just wanted to do a re-cap real quick and please correct me if I am wrong. The Supremes did the following yesterday: 1. Eliminated "good cause" requirements and turned the US into a "shall issue" country. 2. Eliminated "intermediate scrutiny" so that all future gun cases will be viewed and ruled upon from the "history, text, and tradition of the 2nd amendment" possibly expanding gun rights exponentially. 3. The justices linked the 14th amendment (life liberty and the pursuit of happiness) to the 2nd amendments (right to carry a gun outside the home for self defense). The justices intentionally "supercharged" the 2nd amendment.

https://apnews.com/article/us-supreme-court-gun-politics-new-york-violence-kathy-hochul-ebe58ea297c154a25a62650dec935529

This! I have seen re-quals at bullethole in Belleville NJ. Let me tell you, it will be a breeze for the likes of most of us.

Appendix A on page 35 has a typical New Jersey qualification course of fire. https://nj.gov/lps/dcj/pdfs/dcj-firearms.pdf While the course of fire is described using a semi-auto, you can easily meet the same time requirements using a revolver. I've done it many times.

Murphy isn't going to be Governor forever. We may get a republican governor worth a damn someday, especially after eight years of hatchet face and 4 years of Biden.

It depends. A normal qualification is around 50-60 rounds, distances of 1 foot to 25 yards. Both tactical and magazine save reloads. It also has to be recent, like within 6 months of the application. You definitely need to have the serial number, make and model of the handgun on the paperwork.

That's how stupid she is, they already do require training.

For nra pistol instructor class. We have to shoot 18 of 20 rds in about an 8” circle. At 20 yards. Practice on that

When they make these stringent rules. How many of you will actually qualify. And re qualify? Dont kid yourselves thinking it will be that easy.

Stop your orgasms. Just remember. It aint over till the fat lady sings. Also remember. We should all be constitutional carry. Its a win. But a far cry from the constitution as written if we still have to jump through hoops and fill out alot of paperwork to have our God given right for the pursuit of happiness

Not that I'm aware. That's a pretty low bar considering NJs statute. Also, NJ requires the training or quals to be "current", so I would guess within 6 months or less.

Does the training taken when I got my non resident Florida CCW qualify for the training requirement?

Can't we simply savor, what many believed was insurmountable, a momentous Day?

Filling them with hot glue works great too.

Hornady Critical Defense or similar.

He stole the election, now he's trying to add to his creds for his 2024 presidential run. What evil people he and his cohorts are.

I think they call the employer to verify information on the application. Some towns do and some don't. They run yet another criminal background check that the state just ran. The chief then gives his approval. It's all bullshit compliments of the PRNJ that tries to make getting a gun as difficult as possible!