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Just wanted to update. I just had my appearance in front of Judge Silvanio(Gloucester) he approved and stated that I can only carry what I qualified with. He is forwarding the permit to my LPD so I should have it next week. Almost there.

The law requires nothing more than "safe handling of a firearm" . In fact, simple passing of a test in use of force laws is good enough. No need to "out" anyone, that's the control freaks talking. And those counties need to be sued.

Unfortunately for us, Roberts is a sell-out and Kavanaugh is almost there. If it was not for those two, Bruen would have made it solid 2A once for all. That whole lecture with "permitting is constitutional" BS is from those two. Its probably going to take another 10 to 20 years before another case involving the permitting abuse is going to be picked up by SCOTUS. And by then , who knows.

congratulations

I finally got around to qualifying today at Gun for Hire. It looked like they are still running a lot of people through the quals. Short safety briefing, instructions on course of fire, then right into it. We did not specifically have to demonstrate safe gun handling, but there were a lot of instructors, so they might have been observing us. Course of fire (untimed) was 50 rounds as follows: 24 rounds at 7 yards 14 rounds at 10 yards 6 rounds at 15 yards 6 rounds at 25 yards It appeared that everyone in my group passed. Anyone who cannot hit 80% or better on a full silhouette target with no time pressure probably should not be carrying a firearm. They did say that if anyone failed, they could try again in a week at a reduced fee, presumably after some practice and some remedial training.

One day Johnny's parents told him that the neighbors had just brought their new baby boy home from the hospital and they were all invited to go over and see him. The parents said the child was healthy and they were just thrilled to have a son. There was one problem though. The poor little boy had been born without ears. Johnny's parents agreed to come over the next day and Johnny's mom, knowing her son, warned him. Now Johnny, I don't want you to say one bad thing about this new little baby or the fact he doesn't have any ears. I mean it, nothing bad or embarrassing. You can ask any question you might have but NOTHING about him not having ears. I'm sure his parents are upset enough without you saying something about it. OK Mom, I promise. Yeah, you have promised before and then did just the opposite. I mean it, if you say anything inappropriate about his lack of ears you are going to be in big trouble. Do you understand me? I said OK Mom, I won't say anything about the baby not having ears. When they got to the house Johnny's parents made a big fuss about how adorable the little boy was. The new parents just beamed. They asked Johnny if he wanted to see the baby too. His mother just cringed thinking Johnny was going to say something right off the bat about the baby not having ears. The conversation went like this. Wow, he sure is cute. Thank you Johnny, we think so too. He has really blonde hair. Well, I have blonde hair so I guess he got that from me. He has strong looking legs and arms doesn't he? Yes he does, his Dad is quite the athlete so I suppose he gets that from his father. What a cute little button nose he has. His Grandmother had the same little cute nose. Isn't just adorable? They all agreed that the boys nose was adorable. Johnny's Mom was so happy that little Johnny hadn't said ANYTHING about the boy not having any ears. How's the baby's eyesight Johnny asked. Well, from what we can tell so far his eyesight is perfect, why do you ask? Because if he ever needs glasses he's SCREWED!

2C:58-4. Permits to carry handguns a. Scope and duration of authority. Any person who holds a valid permit to carry a handgun issued pursuant to this section shall be authorized to carry a handgun in all parts of this State, except as prohibited by section 2C:39-5e. One permit shall be sufficient for all handguns owned by the holder thereof, but the permit shall apply only to a handgun carried by the actual and legal holder of the permit. The line "owned by the holder thereof" sounds like carrying our spouses guns won't float.

I said I fell off a turnip truck

Rosey's War Wagon even has hazmat stickers - he carts around black powder so it's liable to explode if rear ended

@Smokin .50 and @Krdshrk have been second amendment advocates since as long as i can recall.... you dont need to see any 990 filings and if you did a bit of research on Rosey on this forum alone you would see he and the CNJFO is a stand up organization....let alone all the other great work they have done, with little to no glory.

Update: The Clinton WMA centerfire rifle range was re-opened (as of 9/2). Clinton WMA Centerfire Rifle Range Will Be Closed Until Further Notice The Clinton WMA Centerfire Rifle Range in Hunterdon County will be CLOSED for the second phase of a sound abatement project until further notice. A range reopening announcement will be posted as soon as this project is completed. New Jersey Fish and Wildlife sincerely appreciates your patience and understanding while this work is being completed and improvements are made.

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Why should the be "outed" they have done nothing wrong. Any range that is offering qualifications is doing their best with the limited info that the state is putting out, the state is being ambiguous at best on what the "Qualification' is...by statute its showing safe handling of a firearm. So showing any anger or outrage at the ranges is misplaced. With that said I agree with you that as a CCW carrier you need to take it seriously and show responsibility and get training above and beyond what any qualifications the state requires.

If true those "places" should be outed . There is a reason for qualification requirements. Carrying is no fkn joke, Its as serious as it gets and should be treated as such ,especially by the people/establishments who are giving the qualification course and clearly charging for the service

Rumor warning... I was talking to a retired police officer who is now working at a range in Gloucester county. He said Gloucester and Camden counties have begun collaborating on defining minimum standards for the qualification. He said there are some places running qualifications with as little as 20 rounds and without any distance shooting, and they want to stop that.

it would be nice if once people got the permits, they came back to post if their county issued a restriction.

From the link: "Prior to this week’s update, realtors were relying on language written in 1968 and 1971 to determine what defined firearms."

@samiam First let me say a hearty "WELCOME TO THE FIGHT"! I didn't mean to ruffle feathers, so I apologize if I did. VCDL is a great organization and several CNJFO members supported the protest in Richmond, VA by being there (took the Metroliner from Jersey) conducting interviews, writing news stories and covering the event with both stills and videos. We (myself personally AND the Coalition of New Jersey Firearm Owners--CNJFO) have made friends with several of their high ranking members and others known throughout Virginia as 2A leaders. Jill S. McDaniel of Mom At Arms, LLC and the Virginia State Director of The DC Project--Women for Gun Rights knows us and is a Facebook friend that shares our views and commitment to the cause. CNJFO strongly supports The DC Project, and will be sponsoring most of the catering expense at their next NJ Fundraiser on Saturday Oct. 22nd in Mays Landing, NJ. These powerful women get appointments with legislators both here in NJ and at their DC offices, and give heart-wrenching evidence describing how their lives were changed by violence and HOW they wish to defend themselves and their families with firearms. They get into places that old fat white guys like me aren't welcome. And they do us all a great service by doing so. Several of their national and regional officers are Facebook friends and we share each others' content. CNJFO attends the Executive Board meetings of ANJRPC, our NJ state NRA Affiliate (pre-covid before the 'Rona) and has donated over $5K to their Rogers lawsuit. Then we did a "Matching Funds" Campaign for over 11 grand to the Cheeseman-Jillard lawsuit (case #19-27) that paid for an amicus brief for SCOTUS. We're an all-volunteer 501(c)3 organization (both NJ & federal) with bylaws and a dissolution amendment. I or @Krdshrk can put you in touch with our Treasurer for any documentation you desire. With the Bruen case causing a "massive disruption in The Force" (think Star Wars), sometimes I spend an 18 hour day doing 2A work as a volunteer. As such, I rarely get on this forum long enough to type as much as I did the other day (or now). Last night Krdshrk, I and 2 other CNJFO members trained Newbies at Tony Simon's, "The 2nd is for Everyone: Diversity Shoot" held at Recoil-NJ in Monroe Twp., NJ. Rest assured your membership, your time, talent and treasure mean a lot to us fighting for all gun owners in NJ! I can make myself available for a phone call to quell any fears. Here's some pix of stuff we've done: Let me know if I can be of any help to you in your decision on who (what group(s) you support. Thanks for your time! Sincerely, Rosey

Same experience, same places, about 3 weeks ahead. The detective there has always been extremely helpful, can't say enough good things about him!!!

Congrats brother!

I personally believe 1 of your reference should be your spouse. Because they can attest THERE IS NO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE OR ABUSE. Remember, one of the question in the application is 'have you committed domestic violence'

Looked like around 8-10 people.

Make a template, ask Walgreens to take the photo leave some room, then cut... Is it an 8.5 x 11 letter that you have to laminate and wear around your neck?

I was thinking about his girlfriend or wife and decided not to comment....

I don't think they care about the constitutional right part. They will care about the court being bogged down. That said they may also take the opportunity to tack on more bureaucracy and restrictions in the 2C code so I'm in no hurry for them to "fix" that.

Passed my qualification at gun for hire today. I spoke with Anthony who is a super cool guy. I thanked him from all of us for fighting the good fight. As of now, he hasn't heard of anyone in Middlesex or somerset County being issued a permit but he said he'll continue fighting. He also hooked me up with a signed copy of his book. I plan on finishing the paperwork tomorrow and dropping it off Friday at the police station.

It might take some time but I think at some point they will be so inundated and HOPEFULLY realize that this is an undue burden on a constitutional right.

By the time you pay for the application, prints, qualification, photos, and notarization, your wallet will be considerably thinner.

Update: Picked up the permit. For those of us in Morris County The Hon. Thomas Critchley attaches a Court Order that must be carried along with the Permit that list the firearm(s) you qualified with. Disappointing..... but hopefully once the system gets tired of this redundant part of the process and removes the Judge from having to sign off..... stuff like this will disappear

You're welcome! Glad to see you're looking into CNJFO more. ANJRPC is definitely the big dog in the room. That being said, CNJFO is the largest Grassroots pro-2A org in the state. While ANJRPC is putting in the lawsuits and doing the big work, we're supporting them by bringing funding, as well as educating new shooters and bringing more people into the fold to become part of the fight.

Well he does drive the 'war machine'...

Be sure to keep using only 10 round magazines after ANJRPC win their case. Wouldn't it be awful benefit from the efforts of such a horrible organization.

You will have to forgive Rosey, aka Smokin .50. He's very passionate about the fight for 2A and he comes in hot sometimes. Actually, he comes in hot all the time. Spend enough time here and you will get used to it. He means well.

I’d delete all my social media accounts and create a new Pornhub account. PD won’t have enough eye-bleach for what will be on that feed.

I read there is no link of your CCW to the DMV so they will not know. Per Wilson Defense I will proactively hand the officer my card, keep my hands on the wheel and explain I have the permit and do have it on my person. I will tell them where it is and allow them to unholster it, but do not unholster it yourself. If a second officer is there he may not hear the first officer asking for it and that could get you shot. Be careful and proactive . Do not say you have a gun! Say it is on your person and you have a permit. Keep your hands on the wheel. not trying to be a Dad here, but I think that is sound advice. Wilson Defense has a great YouTube page with great advice. The officer will also appreciate you being forthcoming even though you are not required to by law.

the china buying our land thing.....sadly that can't be foisted just on obiden. it's been going on for a lot longer than most of us realize i think.

Submitted my application this morning to Mendham Boro PD. For me, it was a good experience. The detective the takes in the application was very nice and professional and we conversed a bit. Without him outright saying it, I feel confident in saying that he is pro our right to carry. Almost seemed excited about it, which is pretty cool. To me that was refreshing having grown up in north Jersey and having dealt with police of widely varying opinion. I scheduled my Identogo appointment as well. The first available appointment I could find was in Annandale on August 31. All the other locations that came up in my search didnt have any appointments available until the first, second, and even third weeks of September.

Just got the call, picking up my permit shortly. Submitted 7/20, mental health check received 8/1, sent out to Morristown Superior Court 8/2, and it was just delivered to the PD today, 8/12.

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It’s not in statute. A few PDs make this as their own policy.