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Although I get your (understandably!) cynical point of view... it's also hard to ignore that there's one very serious difference between "then" and "now". Even if ALL these various cases move glacially, as you say, through the courts - as so many NJ gun cases have done in the past - in the meantime, law-abiding NJ citizens are at least carrying concealed. Frankly?... I never thought I'd see that day. Did you? I think this latest chapter - this decision by Judge Bumb - is yet another "win" no matter how you slice it. And the fact that this judge took so much time and turned out such a lengthy and carefully annotated product... makes me think that she KNEW damn well this case would be immediately appealed, and that it would be closely watched by other courts around the country, and she was making sure to dot the i's and cross the t's on this initial decision... so that it would withstand any future appeal process. I think she's going to be JUST as careful when the full case is heard and decided. And yes, the fact that Alito is over that next level court... if these combined cases ever get to that point, well, from my (albeit limited) understanding, it certainly doesn't hurt us! For years, pro-2A NJ citizens had NOTHING but bad legislation and even worse legal decisions to despair over. But the fact is... the Bruin case DID change things. It gave much-needed "teeth" to the pro-2A side... in the form of clear, compelling guidance on what courts need to do to decide 2A cases... and now we're seeing a series of wins as a direct result. You know, it's ok to crack a smile... perhaps even lift a celebratory glass... at each step we win.

One can go through posts a year ago and find many saying we'll never be able to carry in NJ.

I don't know why this keeps getting thrown out like it means something. Alito isn't going to show up in Philly and say "We really meant it when Bruen was written" and "poof", like magic, all the same courts that ignored Heller for years are going to say "My bad" and start following SCOTUS. When the 3rd slow walks things like the 2nd did (after removing the TRO), the same thing will happen - SCOTUS will write a sternly worded letter, and things will move at a slightly faster glacial pace. I don't know about the rest of you think, but didn't that mention by SCOTUS really speed things up in the 3rd? 2 months since oral argument, is there an over-under on how long they sit on ruling it? And during this wait, _nothing_ is going on in district court for these cases.

While nobody was looking, Biden purged the third circuit, forcing out many Trump appointees. At least two senior judges were forced out, and the openings filled with Clinton/Obama(soros) attorneys. The junior vacancies were back filled with radical leftists. For example, Scott Brady was forced to resign in retaliation for being part of Trump's team of investigators looking into Biden and his son's corrupt dealings with Burisma in Ukraine. Brady's assistant atty is acting in his stead, just until Biden appoints someone to the position. The left has been working hard to stack the circuit courts too, With the judicial branch being more politicized than ever, we are fucked. If you were a Jew in 1938 Germany, you couldn't very well go to a German court for justice. The same methods for marginalization and persecution is happening here, just more slowly and mostly under the radar. This is what happens when people don't want to see how the sausage is made. Just bcuz Alito oversees the 3rd, it does not mean he has control or authority over all that goes on.

If you've got an hour to spare... here's the far more detailed breakdown of this decision (the follow-up video to the shorter Four Boxes Diner video posted about 8 msgs upthread by @Krdshrk): BREAKING 2A WIN: FULL (GEEK) ANALYSIS OF JUDGE BUMB'S SPANKING OF NEW JERSEY IN CONCEAL CARRY CASE - YouTube So far, of all the YouTube channels on 2A issues, this guy is my favorite for legal analysis. He's very thorough - seems to have a great grasp of the issues. Look up his bio - pretty impressive!

It isn't at Alito's door yet. It isn't even at the 3rd Circuit, quite. NJ filed a notice to appeal - that's like saying "I'm going to file an appeal". It is not actually an appeal. When they do file it, it will go to the 3rd Circuit. If we're lucky it will go to someone like Judge Hardiman or Judge Bibas. They have a record of supporting 2A in their dissentions in prior cases. If the 3rd upholds the PI, then NJ has the option to make an emergency appeal to SCOTUS. That is when Alito gets to decide on his own, or to consult the rest of SCOTUS. If the 3rd Circuit Judge rules to stay the PI, our side has the option to make the emergency appeal to SCOTUS. When it gets to Alito, he has the same options as if NJ had filed the emergency appeal.

Preliminary Injunction gov.uscourts.njd.506033.124.0_1.pdf (courtlistener.com)

Big plus one for these. I bought 2 back when they were a kickstarter project, still have it on my carry glock. Gives direct tactile feedback that the trigger is not being engaged when holstering.

Protip - watch it at 1.5x speed.

From Facebook (Ed Berrios did a phenomenal interpretation that made it much easier to understand):

Watch at 1.5x speed but I think I have it timestamped pretty well. Default property rights rule - Judge Bumb rejected all associated with this. States areas open to the public - eg stores, gas stations, etc... It also reads (to me) as open land property as well. If you get pulled over and have to stop along the side of the road in a rural area - you don't know who you need to get permission from, so that can't be held against you. I'm still waiting on more clarification but this is how I read it. I could be wrong - IANAL.

Anything to keep it tied up in court for 5 years.

Isn't that just like NJ, use the full force of the law, and whatever laws they want to make up on the fly to suit their needs, to restrict the rights of law abiding citizens. All the while, letting rapists and other criminals off easy with no cash bail schemes. What the actual fuck. I wonder how much taxpayer money NJ has spent stepping on 2A over the years?

There is nothing different in the correct procedure for any holster, in the waistband or not. There is never, ever, not even once, any reason to rush putting a gun into a holster.

The NJ AG has repeatedly used the phrase 'bad constitutional law' in reference to the Bruen decision...most recently in the statement he issued above. It's too bad there isn't some higher authority, who can make the final determination as to what is 'good' constitutional law. Oh, wait...guess he wasn't paying attention in class that day.

I imagine ole Phil isn’t happy this morning

Skimmed through it, and my mind is blown that she believes the permit application requirements are constitutional. Glad to see a PI for the insurance requirement, but damn, our application requirements (references, etc) are insane. I guess we're stuck with them.

It's all in how you phrase it. Cats rule. Medieval truth. For our Texas brothers and sisters. And think about this one for at least a minute.

AK's can not have the "Kalashnikov" name on the frame - AK (As in PSAK-47, RAK-47, ect.) is fine...........