Maksim

go through the njgf link. we get credit. not bad deals if you still buy loaded ammo. this stuff is a little hot but perfect for range ammo.

So how was it?

You can see the stages like this in the states, but two things... 1. Lots of props does not make a stage good/bad. 2. At local matches, we cannot do this stuff as the match has to be setup and torn down the day of match. I am likely going to shoot the moscow open this year though.

cj is funky in that the badge lets you ptactice draw and fire only with another person there, not by self. however, you can practice drawing, changing mags and dry firing at home.

My own take, I did not enjoy the CX9 I had. Price wise, it is the same as a decent AR-15, recoil wise, I believed the felt recoil was harsher on the cx9 than a mid or rifle gas AR. The only plus that I can gather, is the common caliber, and magazine interchangeability. Beyond that, AR any day.

welcome.

Dave, my sincerest condolences to you and your family.

I was referring to the manner in which the comment was made, not the caliber it was made about.

Read read read. GSSF only has a few matches in nj a year. realistically, ask yourself, what do you want to do.... Do you want to shoot paper from a port for accuracy? GSSF, Bullseye Do you want to practice practical defensive stuff? IDPA Do you want to hear the clinks? Steel (both knockdown, and static) Do you just want to have a ton of fun running and gunning? USPSA

Seriously? Such a sophomoric comment.

condition? I picked up a like new in box blued trooper mark 3 for $550 at cabelas.

Not just trigger work. Old School, glock armorer, was discussing this point. To get a glock to be a bullseye gun... 17L or 24, swap out bareel to a bull barrel or something of higher quality. Best answer.... a 5 or 6" 1911 with a bull barrel... It all comes down to how seriously do you want to play the game.

the glock does point quite well for me, and I can shoot one very well, just don't enjoy the older ergos and the trigger feel, which you can do very little about. The M&P's in my opinion and experience, do the best job out there for folks with smaller hands, as well as ability to improve the striker fired trigger feel.

4.1 grains of N320 under 180 grain fmj set at 1.145.... love it. =)

example of good post. =)

Example of a comment that adds zero value whatsoever.

No one would give you a -1 because it was a glock, but rather the comment and manner in which the comment is made. I dislike all idiots who blatantly put down anything they do not own. I dislike glocks, and make plenty of Glock KB jokes, but in a serious manner, would never say they are bad handguns or somehow would get me killed over something else, nor would I have a negative opinion about someone who prefers their brand over another. "I own a glock and everything else is garbage and I refuse to admit there is other stuff out there" is a stupid attitude. "I own a glock and I would choose a glock over others because of x, y, and Z "is a good comment. If you want to sell your product, do it on it's own merits, not on the why others are bad.

you can load 40 down to a perfectly mild load.

Sidenote, the m&p pro 40 Long slide is not Production legal. S&W is slow to send in paperwork on it iirc.

Good review. Don't worry about the tough slide release, besides do you actually use it during a match? I never do. Yes, many guns will have the ability to slam the mag and the slide will close up. My Tanfo would do that, many glocks will too. Nothing worry about. The fiber optic sight is pretty big on the m&p and I recall seeing that I wanted to replace the ones on the pro with Dawson/Warren instead, for a smaller fiber filament.

ooooooh, combine with the earned dicks bucks, this is not a bad deal at all. awesome!

Define accuracy. Is it a bullseye gun? Nope, it is a combat gun, first and foremost with emphasis on reliability over precision. Is it going to shoot 2 inch groups at 50 yards? No, but it is far more accurate than most shooters. In a year and a half of USPSA I have yet to see one shooter, pro or amature either at the local matches, or Area matches, or NATIONALS, make a comment that the M&P was not accurate or the play in the slide was bad. At the same time... all the fancy SVI's, STI's, Cameron's, and other guns, that can shoot 1" at 50 yards, that are tighter than a 12 year ... have extremely tight, were breaking down and jamming any time a spec of sand blew into the frame of the gun. So which gun is a POS? The reason why the combat guns are so reliable is in part due to the generous slide to frame fit, not as tight of a chamber, etc. Did M&P's have issue when they first came out? Absolutely, and they were corrected. But look, we are all adults here... for 99.5% of the people on the forum, myself included, it is about the indian, not the arrow. Having switched from a $1,000 race gun to a $4,000 race gun, I am now, finally, after 3 to 4 matches a month, and 2 major matches, and 25,000 rounds of ammo, and finally starting to appreciate some of the small things about what makes a purpose built gun so, however I am not going to say if I shoot a stock M&P it is going to somehow hold me back. Look at H&K, their sponsored shooters, they had a team of about 8 people that were all shooting HK USPs and P30's at Nationals last year. The most work any gun had was a modest trigger job, and most were shooting stock out from the factory. All are at the top levels of the game. Then you can take a custom gun, put it in the hands of common people, and they still can't shoot their way out of a paper bag. In most people's cases, I find the whole this gun is bad because xxxxxxxxxx (insert excuse), is a crutch for people where they should be saying... "I suck because I do not practice with what I have, and am not proficient in its use and manipulation, so I am going to believe some marketing piece because it is easier than admitting it is me." As long as the gun goes bang every time, and the bullets go out the right way and hit the paper, the issues beyond that are almost always the user, not the firearm. Just food for thought.

This "article" if you want to call it is nothing more than a rant. Yes, gun companies have issues, and they all take other designs and innovate off of them. There is only so much innovation that can be done. Yes, S&W puts out some products that had issues and those issues were taken care of. I had 100% ratio of issues to guns. (1911 shipped with 45 acp mags instead of 9mm, 22a had a recall), but all were promptly corrected. The rest is nothing but rants. Almost any member here can write a better story or opinion about any company.

what grips are those? hogue g10?

rey, love the spartan grips. sweeeeet.