Maksim

its good that you shoot cheap soviet rounds. =P as far as 9mm, check jimm flynn, you can get for about $12 a box? Also, dix, umc remington is between $12.99 and $14.99, with the coupons, comes out cheaper. but if you dont plan on reloading, just buy the cheap cases at cabelas and such.

sometimes they do go far.... but it is still hilarious, more than south park.

Is this our hamilton walmart, or one down south south? they dont even know if it was a customer that did that. Most stores have the same phone systems, so if you knew the code/extension, anyone can go to any walmart store, and probly target, etc... from any phone, and do this.

I have spoken to a few off-line about savings for college, about various savings strategies. Along with the number of new parents here, and grandparents... I figured this would be an appropriate time. viewtopic.php?f=56&t=5917&p=78948#p78948

The buckmark most difficult? HAH. try the ruger. But yes, the process you described is correct. Hence why I like the 22a. it is a breeze to clean.

I agree. the p22 I do not like.

And here I thought if i get a new scope, it needs a new gun. =P

I had the g22. I did not try them in the P22, however read that they worked. there may be a difference in the base plates on the mags.

+1... and much safer. Although, the Desert Eagles make a big flash, and so do mosins.

Then how about the brick and mortar shops try and provide something that the big sport shops and internet cannot? I've been in your store and the service was great, very friendly. But with the prices you charge I would certainly never buy ammo for you. As a customer, what incentive is there for me to pay your prices when I can not only save a bunch by ordering online, but also: - have a larger and easier selection that one's not your fault, I know the state requires ammo to be locked away or behind the counter out of reach. But having shopped in PA and NC where the ammo is just right there and I can browse boxes and compare is a huge loss. So on the internet I get a nice list and big pictures to look at and compare prices side by side and not have to wait. Not your fault though so skip this one - privacy also this one is not your fault, mandated by the state again, but I hate filling out a register for ammo as if I'm some sort of criminal, sex offender, etc. and having to put down all my personal information and exactly how many rounds of what I may own, not to mention NJ's transportation hassle. Online, I can just get a nice plain brown box discreetly shipped to my door. So between the state laws and all, really the only thing a brick and mortar shop can do is provide a good price. But because they rarely have a good price, I'm sorry but there's no incentive for me to buy there. If you think Price is the only factor, you are sadly mistaken. Besides, price is set by supply and demand. Most gun shops with ranges in them, they do not want to sell ammo to people to take and leave. They need that ammo for people coming in to rent a gun. For someone who may come in to shoot a gun once or twice, a year, there is very little difference if the ammo is $10 a box or $40 a box. And once again, it is a business, unlike an internet business that is run out of a warehouse, or out of someone's house, or better yet drop shipped, gun stores have to pay the rent, etc. Most people who shoot regularly, do not buy ammo at the ranges. The ranges do not hold it against you... believe me. Were some shops gouging to some degree, absolutely, but no worse than the folks at the gun shows charging $25 a box of 9mm, and had LINES of people waiting to buy it. You are a cheap bastard, like most of us, who values price first, and service is a second to it. You will drive out of your way, spending more on gas and tolls, because ammo is a few bucks cheaper. You don't place a value on your time and convenience. I mean, seriously, how much do you think that gun shops should be marking up ammo? If you shoot more than once a month, or say 500 rounds, it probably makes sense to invest $500 in yourself and get a reloading press. The two times I purchased ammo at the range, were 1... when I rented a handgun in a caliber I didn't have and needed ammo. and 2. I was stupid and did not have ammo on reserve, and had to buy 2 boxes of 9mm Speer Gold Dots for $24 a box. So who is to blame? The store that they had premium self defense ammo and it was more than what I wanted to pay.... or myself, that I was stupid enough not to have ammo in the first place. At the end of the day, we can all say these guys are gouging, Obama's fault that no ammo in stock, God's fault that the weather is crappy and people wanted to go shoot indoors, or God's fault that it is a nice day and all the ports at the outdoor range are taken. Its your own damn fault 95% of the time. No one makes you buy anything. In any given situation, there are a set of given factors, and it is solely your decision what you want to do with it. It is you that makes the decision to take out that visa card and swipe it through the card reader. People make the mistake of getting into gun ownership expecting it to be cheap. If anyone thinks the firearm is the most expensive part of gun ownership, they are a fool. You will easily spend more on: ammo, cleaning supplies, storage cases, range bag, memberships, walk on fees, training classes, CCW permits for out of state, shipping fees on various items, transfer fees on guns, nics fees, gas and mileage driven to go practice with the firearm, long term storage (safe), moisture control. This does not include reloading, where obviously, the press, the dies, the work bench, the tumbler, sifter, media, case prep ie chamfer tools, the shell plates, the shell holders, the turrets, the ammo storage boxes, the case lube, the reloading manuals, then the components (primers, bullets, powder, brass). Back to firearms, extra magazines, replacement barrels, springs, etc. This does not even include upgrades or replacement parts and gunsmithing time and money. I think of firearms ownership like shaving. You can get your Gillete Mach 5/Turbo, wtf it is called now, and you get it for $10 or so.... you are going to spend more and more money on replacing the blades, $2 every two weeks. So really, if paying a few bucks a box, for that one time, for ammo is a big deal.... consider the big picture. The ranges are geared towards selling ammo to those that either, by fault of their own did not bring their own ammo, or those that value being able to buy ammo on site, either they are shooting once every few months, or never shot and are renting guns. Anyone serious about shooting, either buys in bulk, or reloads. Welcome to gun ownership.

I highly doubt the dealer did this on purpose. In alot of the cases, if you know what you are looking for, you know the models more than the dealer. Ie, remington has like 30 different 700 variants. As long as on the box it matches what you ordered, they are typically satisfied. I remember same thing with ruger 1022's. The stainless deluxe model. Was to come with a stainless barrel, however they shipped with the stainless barrel being painted. lol. Ruger changed it up. I would write a letter to remington, they may send you a replacement stock.

I read some historical papers and such in russian, and can confirm, about the nagants. It was not a production model, but alot of the secret service, they would cut one down, so it can be hidden out of sight in the sleeve of their overcoat.

Also, a handgun and long gun are treated differently. As long as your firearm is unloaded and in a case, you are within the law. :angry-extinguishflame: Just in case sorry, should have been clearer--i live in the NJ suburbs of NYC, and only work in NYC. i have no particular plans to carry across state lines--the gun would go from my apartment (in NJ) to a range (in NJ) and back. anyway, is the consensus that if i were walking or on a bicycle, i'd be legal if i were carrying a an unloaded pistol, locked in a case, by hand or in a backpack or something? there is none as you are the first person that asked about it, and no one is about to give you legal advice. the bigger question is... where would you be going shooting, via public transport? and aside from a handgun, how would you about carrying a rifle? While it may or may not be legal, what about practicality? More importantly.... walking out of the range, and not going to a car... exactly how smart is that? At the very least, consider a taxi.

It wouldnt pass me if it was intentional. i know some people who write for the trentonian.... and they arent your typical media folks.

what ben said. and fyi... ben is military experience... =P ie, he just hauled around an ar.

+1 I have never heard of any bad complaints about people being talked down to at SS, or any range that is on our list.

primers are $54 a thousand? Are you kidding me? ?!?!!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

yep, USJeep. he was the second person ever banned from the forum. it was for that reason, bucket 3, and a few others are now only open to registered members, and we are constantly monitoring that. With what happened tonight at BA, I do see more changes happening.

You can use the price request, as that will be the best way to communicate with the vendors, there is no guarantee they will read your post... esp with 200 posts a day, and 2 new members registering each and every day. http://njgunforums.com/index.php?option ... &Itemid=11

Dude, why didn't you say something! But we were down further in lanes 6,7 and 9. I forgot my shirt and was in a rush to get a job done so the only NJGF shirt there was Chris's. Thanks for coming out again Rick, Chris and Colin! I want to know how many brass casings did Rick get? He got 223, 9mm, 40, 45, 38's, and whatever other crazy calibers he stole (borowed) from the ports around us! I'm gonna guess he got at least 300 rounds. I see you have brass whores up there as well. Chad takes the title down here.

what do you mean?

Get a beater car. $500. or make a friend. or better yet... if you are shooting at one range, ask them to hold your firearm for you there.

The bucket 3, and the other parts of the site are in fact only viewable to members. so google is not going to pick it up, but if someone registers on th site, they can view it. I havent gotten any investigation requests, so knocking on wood. lol. besides... there is plenty of LEO amongst us anyway. lol.

Cheyenne has at least 6 cases...

At member only ranges, all members are typically RSO's with training.