Maksim

I will be there about 2:30. just got caught up.

wow. not bad. I really am wondering about comparing a tigr with a vepr.

send tbtrout a message....

I will have to agree with chad though. Handshake... eh, firm is ok, just dont kill my hand. But a pat on the shoulder is sometimes ok.... but what reallly gets me..... realllllly gets me is people invading my personal space and get in my face. if someone gets closer than within my hand's reach.... I am irked.

btw, here is the russian tigr, which is basicly a carbine... $3500. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =155012330 and wait, I take it back... $6k for the norinco. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =156114436 and one with a buy it price of $3.5k http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =156316977 quite frankly... find a vepr or a super vepr in a 308, add scope, and you basically have the same rifle. wow, more nutjobs... a guy selling a "tigr" as a "dragunov" http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =154889701 $5,800.

You will be very hard pressed to find one for sale. Expect to pay over 4 to 5k for a real one nowadays. Why not just get the PSL for 1/4 the price... er 1/8th the price. You can easily reloadfor 7.62x54r now.

awesome looking. =)

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New York, NY, have an extra ticket, but I am sure anyone can register, Traders Expo.... basically a vendor show for day traders. Not my cup of tea, but I go there because occasionally you can get in touch with someone in the industry.

I must apologize to everyone that this is taking so long. I never in a million years thought it would be as such. It is partially my fault that I haven't been on their case every day. Current status I am promised a call back tomorrow by the person who handles group buys. Last actual contact I have had from them was back in november when "That should work, I

it really isnt that terrible, depends on total shipping, I got some wolf primers on order, but i know some folks only like cci.

Xanadu saved? http://www.northjersey.com/news/020110_ ... anadu.html

either upload it to photobucket or up on here.... cant from aol webmail. =)

Jersey City does need a letter from your employer as to why you should own a firearm.... or so a JC resident told me.

Wait wait... clear part... 25 seconds in.... clearly holding an AK. but from that far up... it sure is shooting accurately. lol.

and Red Dawn was an awesome movie.

absolutely. besides, I bet there are more AK clones in this country than M16's. lol.

Most important part.... http://www.strategypage.com/aboutus/default.asp Sources include AP, Reuters, New York Times. Much Like I cant speak for the US Military as I dont have first hand experience, and there is alot more behind the scenes which no one knows unless you have served, the New York Slime, AP, Reuters will not know what is going on behind closed doors in a foreign country. My family all served in the soviet union, my uncle was in the space program, and was backup for Gagarin, then became high ranking in the KGB, then the military when he passed away a few years ago. Cousins all served. Anastasia's cousins served, and a few are today. I trust their opinions and facts they present more than any others, as they were on the ground and have the front scoop. No one is saying the Russian military is superior to the united states, as we all know at one point they were, in sheer numbers, however they had a rough time, they did have issues, but it is not as bad anymore, and over the last few years have been making leaps and strides ahead. The countries that really are far behind are the former soviet satellites, as they are the ones left holding old soviet clunkers, and did not invest in their own resources. Now the flip-hand to this, is Israel... and I was sadly in the camp that truly overestimates the current forces to what they had comparatively years agoto before.

:naughty: That might of been true of russia 5 to 10 years ago, but completely off base now. One of my former relatives, up until he died 2 years ago, was very very high up in the Military ranks, and he would want many people to think that Russia's army/navy is weak. Many of Anastasia's friends/family are either still in the army, or just got done. They were posted at some high tech stations. Only the US and perhaps Chinese could of mop the floor with the Georgians as fast as the Russian Army did with a few brigades. What everyone is underestimating is national pride. God forbid there is a conflict or war somewhere, everyone is ready to jump in. they have been dumping close to 25% percent, if not mistaken of their GDP into military the past few years while in the spike in oil prices. Technology is there... it is the people that they have a hard time with. Even though it is mandatory service, unless you go to college, the numbers are down. But after all, better to be underestimated, then over estimated like the Israeili army..... that was a wake up call when I was there this summer. Tell that to the Indians who have been buying and LOUDLY complaining about the crap (high tech) gear they have been buying from Russia past 10 years. Russia's subs still can not launch ballistic (or cruise missiles) like ours can and we have been doing that for 20+ years. it is widely believed that half of there nuclear arms won't work correctly if called upon as they are so old and unmaintained. Add to the fact that have no modern practical warefare experience past Afghanastan 20 years ago and you have a military in shambles. um... Chechnya, Georgia.... It is the same as Iraq was. Quickly can over run and take position, but then dealing with uprisings, and people shooting at you from everywhere. But really, where are you getting your info on Russian military? Hell, I know this isnt the 80's, and commie this or that crap. I know people in the military there now and my uncle was a high ranking general in Russia, after he left the space program. The issues are mainly enrollment numbers, and while the crumbling old soviet arsenals were indeed an issue, are not as big of a factor now. btw... speaking of crumbling old technology, the russian souyz (translates into Union) space capsuls are still more reliable than any nasa shuttles, are ARE the lifelines to the ISS, and were the only way to get there after shuttles were grounded. but before this get more ridiculous, please supply credible facts/articles/ whatever or start the discussion in the politics section.

Are we still on? heard on the radio today possible flurries high of 35 to 40.

Actually, when it comes to Russia's military now, that is more reality. They are in complete shambles both hardware and leadership wise. As much of a joke France is, they can porbably handle Russia 1 on 1 nowadays. Crazy I know, but that's reality. :naughty: That might of been true of russia 5 to 10 years ago, but completely off base now. One of my former relatives, up until he died 2 years ago, was very very high up in the Military ranks, and he would want many people to think that Russia's army/navy is weak. Many of Anastasia's friends/family are either still in the army, or just got done. They were posted at some high tech stations. Only the US and perhaps Chinese could of mop the floor with the Georgians as fast as the Russian Army did with a few brigades. What everyone is underestimating is national pride. God forbid there is a conflict or war somewhere, everyone is ready to jump in. they have been dumping close to 25% percent, if not mistaken of their GDP into military the past few years while in the spike in oil prices. Technology is there... it is the people that they have a hard time with. Even though it is mandatory service, unless you go to college, the numbers are down. But after all, better to be underestimated, then over estimated like the Israeili army..... that was a wake up call when I was there this summer.

Add in PSL's, AMD's.

Late night browsing..... CCI Primers Or Main Page, search for item UK-210757

wow.... scary part is... With the way the government is right now..... how far from the truth?

China's economy is way too dependent on the us economy. aint happening.