WilliamParker

Police have never been the friend of NJ gun owners. Maybe you do not remember the NJ State Police with a .50 cal Browning M2 at the AW hearing in Trenton when police stated that the gun was as easy to purchase in any hardware store as a box of popcorn. Almost the exact quote. I was there. I've had police pull me over because of my NRA sticker and nothing else, and demand that I open my trunk and allow them to search my car. I didn't. The fact that LEOSA finds no relevance that retired police are a privileged class having superior rights to the rest of NJ residents, and that they and only they have the right to save their life and protect their family explains why NJ is the police state it is absent of most 2nd Amendment rights. Wake up to the reality which exists. Its a 14th Amendment violation separate of the 2nd, and if those in charge refuse to use it, they I have the right to question their motives or ability.

It is a blatant violation of the 14th A, period. Politicians can get their permit, as well as those politically connected. I retired cop is under no greater threat than anyone else in this state but is given special favors. Gays got their marriage bill in all states because it was already in 26 and that would have been a 14th A violation for all others. Same issues applies although gun owner organizations don't seem to get it. Maybe NJ gun rights leaders just want to change the definition of need being that you are shot at in 5 separate incidents rather than 6. What they have done thus far has been worthless.

It is supposed to be a jury of one;s peers, which attorneys have never enforced. The allow the state to stack the jury.

Just remember - Every single gun owner should absolutely vow to NEVER convict another gun owner of any paperwork induced crime. He had a fukll auto UZI - Not Guilty. Belt fed 50 cal, Not Guilty. 40 round AR clip - Not Guilty. All government prosecutions at this point should be viewed as corrupt and unjust - takes just 1 juror to not convict. Just Vote No.

When politicians throw such roadblocks in front of a Constitutional right it denies that right. The court has held that you cannot license a right, the most notable with the Jehova Witness being forced to acquire permits to speak. That was struck down. The courts are the resolve to such criminal intent but when the courts themselves are corrupt - where do you turn? Hellier defined 2nd Amendment as a personal and not government right - yet it changed nothing here in NJ. Nothing - even though it should have nullified every one of our f'd up laws. Yes NYC residents have the same rights as those of Phoenix or Dallas, but in reality - they have none. N Neither do we. The fact is that NJ Constitution has no 2nd Amendment protection, which has been used over and over in various court pleadings to argue that NJ residents have no right to a firearm, period.

Nice idea but it will never happen in NJ. First, NJ has no 2nd Amendment in its constitution. None. Republicans have taken gun owner support and screwed them royally at every opportunity. DiFrancesco, Ray Zane and the critical vote for Clinton's AW ban, Gormley - paid off by Florio for his vote for Florio;s AW ban. 8 years of Christie's promises and nothing. To the corrupt and Democratically Socialist controlled NJ government, the Constitution doesn't mean shi t.

I am glad to hear that. The case I referred to was beyond 20 years ago and there was no trial only because of public outrage over the type of bullet the homeowner saved his life with. Charges were dismissed, but the main point is that the prosecutor was knowingly falsely making the charge as some form of punative act. He flat out said that they preferred to file charges and then drop them later. So glad that evil intent seems to have changed. Also about 20 something years ago, a friend of mine down near Bedminister shot a burglar 3 times with his .357 mag with 125 gn. hp ammo - who remarkably lived. My friend was a big pro-Republican fund raiser. The burglar had first kicked him in the face breaking his jaw and stabbed him with a screwdriver before he shot him. He was only charged with the use of hollowpoints and had to hire an attorney to finally have the charges dropped. He then sold his home and ran to Florida to a free state. I would feel much better with jhp in my .45 but still will not take that chance. This is still New Jersey. Thanks for the clarification.

Dont't think there are zombies out there. Just go to Youtube and type in Streets of Philadelphia, Kensington Avenue and you will see what is going on in almost all inner cities.

When the gay rights issue was decided, all the legal analysts cited the parallel to 2nd Amend and carry rights. The cop up my street retired and had his carry license right away, basically a rubber stamp, which remains a 14th Amendment violation.

There are 2 very important 14th Amendment issue which I hope have been included. The first is essentially the gay rights SCOTUS decision which said rights enjoyed by individuals in 26 states could not be denied to the other states. This is the heart of the gay marriage decision and one we should be making. The other is that retired cops can legally carry, and have just a rubber stamp process to go through. They are not any more in need of every other NJ resident but get favorable treatment in violation of 14th. I have never heard those arguments made.

Wondering the same if anyone has a contact name and number.

The homeowner was initially charged with a homicide but that was dropped after much public outcry. The homeowner was Spanish, and had alot of press showing him as the victim. But the prosecutor let stand the charge related to HP. The potential to be tried up in a new legal mess over HP by corrupt police and prosecutors seems not worth the benefit of of a helping hand that a better aim may have eliminated the need for.

It was on the corner of Union Street and West Side Avenue. Cops were and still are worthless there. Corrupt as well.

I lived in a black area of Jersey City and carried my .45 often. Once I walked down to the corner liquor store to purchase a 6 pack for my dad right before 10 PM. I had my 1911 in my back. At the door, the store owner let me in and then locked it saying he was closing. When I left some black guy outside begged him to sell him some cigarettes so the store owner let him in and locked the door behind him as he did me. The store owner was murdered, shot dead. In just a matter of seconds it could have been different and life changing. I called police to say I had seen the murderer as I left the store. No one ever showed up to even take a statement.

Sadly not in the Peoples Republic of NJ. Of course, retired cops easily get their carry license, which is a violation of the 14th Amendment to every other NJ resident. To my knowledge, this issue has never been raised.

It was a case in the 90s when I was involved with the legislative committee for ANJRPC and we made an issue with GOP legislators due to prosecutors ignoring the law and charging innocent gun owners simply as their own punative methods. I do not have the original details.

We had the best opportunity after defeating Florio and giving Republicans a veto proof majority. OF course, Republicans screwed gun owners over by sabotaging CCW plans at the time. And promises to repeal the AW law. They are the same if not worse today. Gays got marriage allowed in all 50 states because it was legal in over 26 states. Gun owners seem to have ignored this 14th Amendment argument for CCW that was held 9-sip by the US Supreme Court. Sickening

A Hudson County prosecutor who indicted a homeowner for killing an intruder using a .45 JHP stated to me that JHP ammunition was illegal. This is corrupt NJ, not the rest of the country, and the law means nothing under certain circumstances. The homeowner was judged fully justified in shooting the intruder who broke into his home and stabbed him first, but was still charged with the JHP possession. In the same conversation the prosecutor stated the JHP charges would likely be dropped, but an indictment on the JHP ammo was the preferred process favored by his department. This is NJ. It has nothing to do with the law.

What is the status of the CCW suit? I have been hearing about the filing for years and then nothing.