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Their attorneys are fighting on our behalf for all of the carry garbage that is going on right now. They are the ones challenging this stuff in court. I have US Law Shied in the event that I ever need a defense attorney if I’m ever charged in a self defense situation. I don’t expect that they take my calls and help me through the CCW permit process. Even if I never have to use them, I consider the monthly cost a contribution to the cause. These folks don’t work for free. If you want free advice, go to one of their seminars. Twelve bucks a month is a small price to pay for self defense insurance. Set your expectations accordingly.

I’m in Bergen County. The county has had my application for three weeks, and has just cashed my money order. Hopefully, I should be notified in the next week or two for my appearance.

The 2A attorneys are going to paint the following picture for the court, and after which, the court will find in our favor. A PTC holder parks in a mall parking lot, opens his trunk, removes his concealed carry gun, unloads it, leans into his trunk, and locks everything up. Four potential outcomes: 1) While disarming himself, unable to focus on his surroundings, he is jumped by a bad guy, forced to give up the gun, and potentially beaten up or even worse. Now a stolen gun is out on the streets. 2) Car is broken into and a stolen gun is on the streets. 3) The bad guy follows the good guy home, jumps him, forces him into his house, and robs other guns the guy may have. More stolen guns on the street. 4) Permit holder forgets his gun is in the trunk. Car either gets broken into, or car gets serviced and gun is taken from trunk. Common outcome is that the stupid restrictions result in more stolen guns on the street. In the interest of public safety, the restrictions are rescinded.

I just don’t get flustered by this stuff. Some counties are doing whatever they can to turn people away and delay the process. My thinking is screw the court, give me my permit, and I’ll be the one laughing when they get bitch slapped for trying to impose unreasonable and unsafe restrictions. The courts know this won’t hold up, but will do anything to appease the lefties. They can then say well at least we tried.

Here’s the deal. The restrictions are not reasonable. There is no consistency between counties. It’s a total cluster. Legal challenges are in the works regarding these restrictions. Any reasonable court will overturn this BS. You can go ahead and pull your app, deny the restrictions, etc, but I’ll get mine. Several months down the road, this will all be worked out. Meanwhile, you’ll still be holding your app in your hand, your qualifications will expire in six months, and you’ll be back to square one. An appeals court will order the AG to issue an amendment to drop the car carry restriction, and current permit holders will be happy campers.

Evan Nappen is a participating lawyer with Texas Law Shield.

Why refuse it? Isn’t that counterproductive? Get the permit and let the lawyers fight it out. I’m sure amendments will follow later after it shakes out. We’re not going to get perfection out of the gate.

I got my prints done in the Bronx. Lousy area to go to, but got the job done. There were no appointments in Jersey at all.

I hope everyone has sent a donation to ANJRPC, and has signed up for Texas Law Shield. They are fighting the good fight for us and it would be helpful if everyone could throw a few bucks their way to keep the attorneys funded.

Last I heard is that it’s taking 4-5 days.

Folks, don’t you realize that gun purchases are up substantially with the Bruen decision? People are buying like crazy to get carry guns so they can submit an application. This has a big impact on NICS delays. I don’t like it either, but I doubt the state is going to ramp up to speed up the process. Democrats are the biggest gun salespeople. Every time they talk about gun restrictions, people flock to gun stores and buy up what is available. This has also contributed to longer than usual NICS delays. It sucks, but we’re going to have to deal with it until the panic buying slows down.

No, that only applies to non-residents and employees of an armored car company.

Had mine done in the Bronx. I needed a CCW to get there!

That’s very good news!

Has anyone in Bergen County received their permit?

I’m sure there are many people who can’t afford to give up a few days of work for jury duty. It sucks, but would you want a jury from only the segment of society that can afford to take time off? I would rather have a jury that’s more representative of society in general. If it’s a true hardship, than I guess you’ll have to prove your case to the judge.

I went to Shooters last month to use the indoor range. It’s needs some upgrades. The target trolly system is old, and gets stuck. Then you have to wait for the RO to come over and try to free it up. Happened three times to me in one visit. There’s virtually no ventilation in the range. There’s no place to put your stuff. No countertop or cubbies. Very basic range. On the plus side, the store is great. Awesome gun selection!

Judges are swamped with cases. I highly doubt that they will needlessly delay the review of carry permit applications, as that would result in more cases to enforce the 30 day timeframe to deny or approve applications. Courts are already under pressure to move their case loads. They’re not going to pile on more cases when they already have a ton of criminal and civil cases pending.

The attorneys will eventually run out of objections and dismissals to boot a potential juror. When selection gets near the end of the process, it’s likely that the defense will wind up with the final juror favorable to their side. The selection process is quite interesting, and has spawned a whole profession.

Your civic duty is to your fellow citizens, not the court. Your beef is with the state legislators, not the citizens. Those who dodge jury duty don’t deserve a jury.

This is exactly what I heard. You provide the details of the gun you want to add to your permit and the court will rubber stamp the request. The clerk will have your permit amended and issue a new permit.

There’s a process already in place to add a gun to an existing permit. Don’t make this any more difficult than it has to be.

Too many people here are panicking over the car carry restriction. The whole process is so new to Jersey, and police departments and courts are still figuring out what to do. Sure, there may be some activist judges applying restrictions to permits. I think this will all shake out over time as challenges are brought forward to the court regarding these issues, and new directives are created to address them. At least get your process started and hand in your application. Hopefully by the time your permit comes up for renewal in 2 years, all of this stuff will be worked out. Don’t sweat it.

My application went to the county about two weeks ago, but my references haven’t been called yet. Anyone else have the same situation where their references haven’t been contacted? I would think the local PD would have done so before forwarding the app.

I qualified with my Seecamp .380 pocket gun with 2” barrel out to 25 yards. Scored an 88. The grip screw broke with six shots to go, but was able to keep it together to finish the qual. Definitely not meant to shoot that far, but that’s what we’re stuck with.