BigGuns

Exactly. That should have pissed off ALL Republican gun owners, but it didn't. Why?

We had that in 2017 and 2018, and it didn't go anywhere. There's no chance it would pass the senate now.

That must be new. I did the first three classes and my dog wasn't neutered. I don't remember them even asking.

If you're near a Petsmart, they have a good basic obedience program they do in the store, and it's cost effective.

Low left could be limp wrist, and not squeezing tightly enough. I've had that happen if not paying attention to form.

Might be a simple question, is the Red Dot sighted in?

Can you kill someone more than once?

Actually 4-1/2 years, but who's counting. Signed in mid 2018.

Supreme Court is not going to help: WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Wednesday allowed a New York gun control law that was enacted in the wake of the high court’s landmark ruling in June that dramatically expanded the right to bear arms outside the home to remain in effect while a legal challenge against it continues. https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/11/supreme-court-allows-new-york-gun-law-to-remain-in-effect.html

"Rep. Hudson has introduced the bipartisan Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act in previous years. In Dec. 2017, the bill was passed by the House with a vote of 231-198, yet was not taken up in the Senate." In 2017, Republicans had both chambers of congress and the White House, and the Bill wasn't even discussed in the Senate, much less voted on.

That's the main problem. Thomas screwed up, and should have specifically stated what were these sensitive places. Instead, he left it up to interpretation for the states to decide. This is why we are where we are.

Just like the other 250 people who signed up after the Bruen decision and the PTC situation. Are new people not allowed to sign up on the forum? Are you a moderator here or in charge of membership?

Well, you're the only one so far that's realistic, and truly see what has gone on. Many others here feel THIS time we'll get an injunction, and we'll win. My point was, just look at history, and let that be your guide. I'm not specifically pointing to this decision, I know it takes years to sort out. But I'm also not naive to think this is the end all, and all our rights will come flooding back because of it. I believe some here expect that to be the case. The mag ban is the one I've mentioned multiple times. It should have been an easy one for us to win. But it's gone back through the courts two or three times, and still not overturned and upheld. And during the Bruen decision, the S.C. wouldn't even touch it, and kicked it back to the lower courts, and square one. Hell, the 15 round law goes back to the 1990s, and was never overturned or repealed. That's a long time to fight and not get the desired results. So, if we can't win the easy ones, like magazines and evil features, what's the prognosis for the hard ones? No doubt, it's a David and Goliath situation, and the state has really deep pockets. But that said, In many areas of Life and Sports, is decided on Wins and Losses. And in that case, the batting record isn't great regarding gun owners in this state. Yes, the donated money is important. I don't know, do we have the right team in for this game? What's their batting average? What would a head coach do if his quarterback kept throwing interceptions or a pitcher was allowing 5 runs per inning? That might sound harsh, but it's reality. So giving my opinion is drawing energy from what's really going on? Sure, if you and others want to call a different look at the situation as "complaining", feel free. I don't count my chickens before they're hatched, and history is usually a good teacher. Call it what you wish. If my point of view upsets some people, that's an emotional issue they need to deal with. Thank you for being honest, and not just defaulting to the accepted group think by some here. Yes, we all hope these overburdening laws go away, time will tell. I believe keeping your eyes wide open is the way forward.

So pointing out current reality is now considered complaining? I'm still waiting on that list of other laws that were overruled or overturned and we got our rights back. I would think getting the 10 round law overturned would have been an easy one (or going back to 30 rounds). Or removing restrictions on telescoping stocks, pinned/welded comps, bayonet mounts, foregrips, threaded barrels, flash hiders, etc. should have been easy, but they all still stand. Plus the overbearing FID process and the P2P process hasn't changed since signed into law. So, if these overbearing, unconstitutional laws haven't been overturned, it doesn't make me hopeful that anything else that's been signed into law will either. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised, but history hasn't been friendly to us.

And you can use it, no matter where you go in the state right now, correct? Do you feel safer carrying in all your normal stores, businesses, malls, and all other public areas you frequent? Lurking long before then. You looking to chase more new members away from the forum? Doesn't seem like this place is too popular, considering the million gun owners in the state? How come?

So, none of you can tell me which unconstitutional gun laws passed, have been overturned or reversed in the past decade or two in NJ. I've seen more layered on instead of being removed. Apparently, it's easier to launch personal attacks, instead of providing the information I requested. Please stop with that logic and facts. Some don't like the current reality.

I do, and I get the updates. But knowing that pieces of paper were sent to court houses and Trenton doesn't personally excite me. That's been going on for decades. What shit has gone our way? Some people got to carry for a few months, after jumping through major hoops, only to get smacked back down? Yes, the 2A organizations have been fighting every new law, and putting a lot of effort into it. Gun owners are in worse shape today in this state, then any other time, after the Bruen decision. So, I'll ask you again, what's been the final result? Did we get 30 round mags back, did all the restrictions on ARs get reversed? Can we carry hollow point ammo? In my world, final actions and results are what matters, not talk, but apparently I'm a minority in that area.

What's been the results? Which laws were overturned?

Nice adult response. I'm asking the question. You claim you lived in NJ for 20 years. What other gun laws that were signed into law were later overturned? Stop being so over emotional and think logically. You're an engineer, I believe. The 15 round law was passed back in the 1990s I think. Not repealed. The 10 round law passed in early 2018. Not repealed. The evil features on ARs were passed. Still not overturned. The whole overburdened FID process and P2P process is still law. All the other BS gun laws regarding transportation, ammo, etc. is still in force and not overturned. Hell, this whole process of applying for a PTC is a total overburdened nightmare. I can send in one page form to another state and get a PTC, and I don't even live there. So yes, everyone hopes this current disaster of a law is overturned, but looking at past history and success of other lawsuits, please feel free to tell me what other laws were overruled in our favor in the past decade or two.

How many other lawsuits were filed for all the other unconstitutional laws that were passed? Where are they in the foodchain?

You should at least feel some vibration if it's running. Do you have multiple zone valves, if the LR pipe feels cold? Maybe a bad one? Some zone valves have a bypass switch, and you can open it up to get some hot water to circulate by convection. You can also test to see if a zone valve has power by putting a screw driver at the top of the coil and see if there is a magnetic pull when energized.

That's the bigger issue, more than a few restrictions on a gun law. These politicians knew what was in the Bruen decision from the SCOTUS, and still went ahead and passed this bill, and the governor, who doesn't concern himself with the Bil of Rights, signed it. At this point, the Constitution means nothing to them, and they'll pass what ever they feel like, knowing there's zero push back from the population.

They will continue to pile it on and on until they get their required result. Just look at what they piled into this current law AFTER getting the Bruen decision from the S.C. They could care less if their bills are constitutional or not. It doesn't cost them anything to pass them, and the state pays all the legal bills.

Did you actually READ your link. The city took away more rights than gun owners kept. Plus a law passed in 1982 took until 2010 to get overturned. I guess you consider all this winning right? And, you'll wait until 2050 to be able to freely carry in NJ? Didn't you run away from NJ and head to TX. Is that considered fighting for NJ?

This is what I see happening. It will drag for a long time, if it gets overturned, the Democrats will just pass something else. Or, they'll do just like the SAFE Act, throw out a crumb or two, and call it a day. Did anyone really think the Democrats would just roll over, and allow Bruen to stand, unopposed?