BigGuns

Yeah, the 7 round law was reverted back to their 10 round law. Everything else in the SAFE act remained. I, for one, don't consider that much of win. Do you?

So, what happens with people who got a CCW permit before the Bruen decision in past years? I guessing they have to adhere to these news laws too, right? No grandfathering I'm assuming. They must be pissed.

That's my point. Of course everyone is hoping this new law will be overturned. But I'm a realist. Tell me which one of the past laws have been reversed. For starters, the 30 round, down to 15 round, down to 10 round. That's been kicked around the courts for 4-1/2 years, and still no resolution. How about all the evil features on ARs, have they been reversed or removed. FID permits, P2P permits, hollow points, transport laws, etc., they're all still in place. The history of reversing these unconstitutional laws in the past isn't great. And yes, they'll just keep moving the goal posts. It's nice you had a few months of carrying, but that just ended in the majority of the state. Who knows if/when these news laws will be reversed? Past history hasn't been friendly to us.

What exactly did you get? Are you any further ahead with legally carrying all over in NJ then you were 5, 10, 15 years ago? This guy gets it here in NJ.

It's not voting, how well has that worked out in the past? It's time to think outside of the box.

Bad comparison. Only like 10% of voters came out in that primary where she won. The other 90% ended up with Buyer's Remorse.

Yep, some people believe if we just vote them out, next time, we'll be good. Next time never comes.

That won't work either. There are too many useless eaters in the state that vote Democrat every time.

Just remember, when all the Covid crazy started, and he shut down the state, he said he wasn't thinking about the Bill of Rights, and it was above his paygrade. Doing unconstitutional edicts is natural to him, until someone personally stops him.

Either does CCWSafe.

And that's exactly what needs to change. Until they feel personal pain, this crap will continue, because no one is holding them personally responsible.

LOL... that's why I agreed with your Square one. No gain.

Well, you can still carry from your front door to your mailbox, or when bringing your trash cans to the curb for pickup.

Had enough yet? From Murphy today: The challenge is not unexpected. Murphy said in his remarks before signing the bill on Thursday that state officials know the “gun lobby and its acolytes are preparing to take us to court to block these common sense gun measures” and that the attorney general is “fully prepared to forcefully defend the constitutionality of this law.” “Even if any part of this law is successfully challenged, the rest of it would remain intact and enforceable,” Murphy said. “This is going to be challenged, there’s no doubt, but we believe that it struck the right balance and it will meet constitutional muster,” Scutari said.

Murphy is wishing you all a Merry Christmas.... Just wait for what he has in store for New Years.

From that link: "Just keep in mind that generations of people in this state lived their entire lives with their rights fully restrained. It’s a long fight with lots of pit stops along the way." So, translation, you'll be dead before you can carry unrestricted in this state?

He opened the door a crack, and the Democrats kicked it full open.

If I remember correctly, didn't Clarence Thomas in the Bruen decision state there was some legality in letting states decide sensitive areas? But he didn't define exactly where. So, the states decided to just go for the fence, and go for broke. Then the courts, with the injunction, might remove a few and a compromise will be worked out, leaving most areas still sensitive.

How many counties will slow walk the permit process even more, once Murphy signs the bill?

4 -1/2 years so far on the 10 round magazine law.

Stock market up first two years of Trump = up 19.9% Stock market the same time period under Biden = up 5.8%. Not even keeping up with inflation.

All to get a CCW permit that you won't be able to use in 95% of the state.

Joined in 2017 and has one post. this one.

We did, in half of Congress. The House passed it Trump's first year, but the Senate refused to put it up for a vote. Do we know who the true enemy is in the country now?