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Vernon, as far as I can tell. (I know the name)

I went back to check a number of sheriff departments that were refusing to issue to out of state residents. Suddenly that language is gone from their websites and now they seem to be accepting out of state licenses. For example Pike County PA is accepting out of state which is amazing because they had a big notice on their website before that out of state is too much trouble and they will not accept from out of state. I guess that the Bruen decision has had some effect? Or that other counties are seeing a spike in applications and these other counties are asking the non issuing counties to accept out of state apps in order to lessen the workload?

There is a lot going on but it’s on the down low. It can’t be shouted from the rooftops or you lose your tactical advantage. Simple as that. You’re of course more than welcome to do your own efforts like Factor and Cheeseman did.

It did work. That’s how we got the Bruen decision. Vote for Congressional reps and Senators and a president who will uphold the 2A. President and Senate appoints and confirms federal judges.

Spank them with your ballot. Try not to let them enjoy it too much.

Sussex, but I work in Passaic and Morris so I’m there often.

So after carrying full time in NJ and now PA, I’ve come to the realization that I have no choice. The best position to carry is openly, cross draw. They WILL see the weapon and the last thing you want in a stop is sudden movements. I automatically record all my stops with audio anyway so unless I get shot and killed I can contest any improper conduct. That said most officers were nearly always courteous in the stops I’ve been involved in. But I do realize being armed adds a different dynamic.

Yes mine is like that. Spoke to attorney and he said carry the order just in case and act as if it’s restricted to the gun even though he thinks I’m clear to carry any gun. I will clarify if digital or reduced size copy is ok. Quals are $25 each so dealing with this particular infringement is relatively cheap for now. Two police departments have told me they don’t ask for the order in traffic stops. I will do what the officer says. I openly carry when I drive so I’m stuck with informing them. I keep a copy of the order in my glove box.

Picked up this morning in York. Also took the opportunity to do my first road trip in my new car. York was a breeze. If you’re going there go to the satellite office. Much easier than downtown at the court house. Applied Friday night, received approval on Tuesday. Picked up today. The deputy at the front desk was helpful and friendly and she explained everything. They will ask for a copy of your NJ permit by email when you renew your NJ permit in 2 years and if you don’t send it they will revoke your LTCF. Just something to bear in mind. Those of us up North can also go to Wayne county. A bit less of a drive. I could have gone there but I knew others who went to York. Oh well.

What county?

Precisely. Also I would hate to have to defensively use my firearm, have a good shoot and then get charged on a technicality. That said we should be fighting this. I am happy to be a plaintiff, but I don't want to commit a felony to do so

Well I am not going to be a test case. So I’ll qualify with the guns I sang to carry. The order says that particular gun.

Entirely up to the judge. The prosecutor, if involved, may recommend one. But it’s up to the judge.

PD. If you have a local PD, they do all investigation and forward to the court. If you’re like me and live in a town with no local police, NJSP local barracks will do the initial intake, forward down to the division (FIU) in West Trenton and then to the court.

Applied on Friday, received approval today. Pickup on Thursday. York county so it’s a drive but Delaware county would be a drive plus I get to wait longer. I go to PA often as I live near the border, and every trip there to shop or just hang out is a pain in the neck now. Plus it gives me a few more states as backup to FL and UT. So I’m glad to get it ASAP. If you’re willing to drive, York is a good alternative.

Process for adding guns in Sussex is the same as other counties - letter to amend, stating the gun info (make, model, caliber, serial number), proof of ownership (executed permit, sales receipt or notarized letter) and qualification sheet. Send all to the court and copy your PD. They’ll issue an updated order. Since the permit doesn’t list firearms you won’t get a new one.

I hope Jay succeeds. However I do think that his lawsuit will be mooted, and the legislature will resolve his complaint through legislation. I have a friend who is a retired superior court judge. She is being asked to go on recall but the problem is she’s taking care of her terminally ill husband and the recall pays a daily wage of peanuts. The courts are begging for judges but just can’t get them. The regular caseload is heavy and on top of that they have to sign our carry permits. Particularly with evictions and the increasing crime rate. So make no mistake the courts don’t want this. They would be more than happy to have this done outside of the judicial process. AG Platkin already said this is going in FARS and hopefully when that happens the legislature will just remove the requirement for a judge to sign off, because there is no more justifiable need. The flip side is they may try to jam something else with this to “improve” concealed carry like New York did and totally screw it up. But if Jay can succeed, I’m happy for that too.

It's clothing. My clothing doesn’t conceal large guns well but there are times I will be able to carry a gun with larger capacity and I would want to do that. Or sometimes I’ll be walking in the woods or outdoors and want to open carry.

Given that NJ is only 10 rounds, I would only carry my XD-S and Hellcat. Now if we get the mag ban lifted I may be looking for a 17 round Glock G17. But not for everyday carry. Just occasionally.

Talked to court today, and they’re going to ask the judge. Hopefully it’s just a letter and qual sheet like other counties.

Nice. I will put in for some permits.

Yes. I got one from Sussex NJSP. Qualified at GFH, applied 7/11, permit received 10/07 and issue date is 8/15. So it's stale dated 2 months. No idea why. NJSP sussex was pretty good. The court on the other hand stumbled and delayed. I'm glad I have it now but I have to qualify with the rest of my carry guns (3 more of them). Carrying in NJ is a strange but surprisingly underwhelming experience except for disarming before going to sensitive places which is a pain in the ass. But it sure beats 4 years in state's prison.

It took two weeks to get to me. But only because it went down to FIU in west Trenton first. Since you have a local PD it shouldn’t take that long. Tomorrow I’m calling about qualifying with my other guns.

My court order didn’t even mention that and was pretty brief. I’m just hoping I don’t have to reapply.