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NJSP required me to bring the unsigned form to the station and the trooper was the witness. I would call them first and ask what their procedure is. Some will take a notary witness and others will require the trooper be the witness.

Monroe and Pike use the same form, SP 4-127. This is prescribed by the AG and PSP. Fill by hand or fillable, doesn’t matter. Same form, same information. Counties cannot make up their own firearms rules. The law is uniform statewide. This is how Philly gets into trouble for trying to add more restrictions than state law allows.

To an extent they can have their own rules. The process has to be relatively uniform. The form is the same for example. They have 45 days to investigate and issue or deny.

Anyone got a permit in Essex county yet?

They may have rescinded that requirement since all NJ permits are now unrestricted (except for the guns on the permit and must carry court order)

Delaware county. I was told by some people that they are making them have their PD sign a form. Possibly those who got “see court order” on their permits.

Delaware makes your PD sign a form attesting that your NJ permit is unrestricted. Plus they take a while to issue. I don’t mind sending a picture of my NJ PTC by email when I renew it. So that’s why I went to York. I didn’t want to wait. So I’m good. Had I known pike was issuing I would have went there and saved the drive but too late now.

Especially since they aren’t up for election until next year.

York county made me sign this

The bill removes the courts from the process and leaves approval up to chiefs of police. But there was a transition period, I believe up to 6 months. During the testimony someone from the courts said that they wanted that provision to go into effect sooner, immediately if I recall.

Veterans day and thanksgiving - vacations are coming! Then we have Christmas. Things will get slow for sure. Then there is A4769, where the courts are on record that they want “out” sooner rather than later.

It can't be challenged in NJ until it is enacted. That said, the challenges to the NY bans will help pre-empt ours.

I use the built in nav in my car but also waze on the side.

My best defense is to look for where cops hide, and make doubly and triply sure I am not going to violate traffic laws especially in front of them. I know many of their hiding spots in my regular drives. In an actual stop say nothing other than what's necessary, take the ticket and fight it in court. My PTC is not usually visible. It's in a hidden compartment of my wallet or purse.

Well, she's black. And yes, I'm going to say it - black folks get treated a LOT differently by police. Unless you are a minority yourself you cannot dispute that. I've seen where white guys wave actual weapons in front of cops and they basically just laugh it off and tell them put it away. But a black person gets the beat down and some have been shot and killed.

Kane was elected with bloomturd money. So you know she had to uphold her end of the bargain.

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That is true. Hopefully the legislature holds them in check. They also have true constitutional sheriffs that handle LTCFs. We have sheriffs in NJ but they don't do gun permits. It would be nice if they did.

Yes, for residents of Texas (and I assume you are one).

Seems about right. I applied in July and got it in October. Sgt Fedge is pretty good though, he gets the paperwork to the division quickly and then they submit it to the court.

York county gave me a letter with it that said as much. I have to find it. They also said they would send a letter and remind me when my NJ permit is about to expire. Other counties may be different. No real big deal. I just snap a pic and send it to them.

Probably on the order.

Cops don’t ask for the order. Your real worry is if you have to use your gun and didn’t have the order somewhere you can find it. Don’t overthink it.

Yes it is. If they find out your NJ permit is expired your PA LTCF will be revoked. Some counties want you to send a copy of the NJ permit when you renew.

I mean, it's Mulshine. He's one of us.