Mike77

Not sure how if no restrictions is checked, and they type a serial number on back, that is law. They could type a vin# on the back, i dont see how it means a thing.

Ahhh, the good ol days..

I thought the same thing. Who the hell walks around with a gun half loaded.

People like this, isn't helping our cause: Gloucester Township Police Media Release- Driver Arrested for Pointing Gun During Road Rage On Sunday, October 9, 2022 at approximately 10:34 am, the Gloucester Township Police received a 9-1-1 call reporting an erratic driver in the area of Blackwood Clementon Road and Peters Lane. The caller reported that the driver rolled down his window and pointed a chrome plated hand gun at him. The victim was able to provide officers with the registration number of the suspect’s vehicle. GTPD immediately located the vehicle and the suspect at his residence. A search warrant was obtained and executed on the suspect’s vehicle. Located inside the glove compartment was a Charter Arms .38 Special Silver Revolver with a black handle, which was loaded with three rounds. Arrest: Kyle Boyce Sr. 34 YOA 400 Block of North Black Horse Pike, Glendora New Jersey Kyle Boyce was charged with Possession of a Weapon for an Unlawful Purpose (2nd degree), Unlawful Possession of a Weapon-Handgun (2nd degree), Certain Persons not to have Weapons (2nd degree), and Aggravated Assault by Pointing a Firearm (4th degree). He was remanded to Camden County Correctional Facility in accordance with New Jersey Bail Reform.

Says The Government..but don't the churches have the right to protect themselves? Pretty sure there has been church shootings just as much as school shootings.

I don't know any bad guy, stop and go "oh thats only a .22, Im going to continue charging"...most ppl are going to turn and run once guns come out / fire.

Technically, how can gov tell them they cant have guns? Isn't this a private property, and up to them?

Ours took about 7 days (including a weekend).....wasn't a big deal for us.

Joker would disagree.....

I do not. I want to say "since the beginning" ... Atlco was waiting to have a "standard" for what they felt was suitable training. But i will sniff around and ask.

I have the Mantis Laser system. Wife and I enjoy it. Like having a range in our basement.

In July/Aug.... I got my PTP, in 6 weeks. Wife got her 1st time FID/PTP in 6 weeks (CamCo)

Guns these days have so many internal safety in them. Unless you physically have your hand on the trigger, it isnt going off. Unless you are Alec Baldwin. My 1st gun was a Springfield XD9 4" service. Love that gun. And it still is CCW worthy. My most recent purchase was the Smith Wesson M&P Shield 9 Plus. Such a nice gun. You really DONT need a manual safety. Learn to trust the gun, and how to handle it.

But....IS the gun a restriction? it doesn't say it. Restrictions say NONE. Per 2C, permit is good for all guns. The gun typed on back is just something they are going....it's not exactly the law as it is written

I know for a fact, AtlCo has approved, and some have permits in hand. No Restrictions, No Court Order....only qual gun on back.

Take NJs rules/laws out of equation, How many different EDCs would you, or do you have, and what kind? I see some videos, where people have 5-10 different guns, they rotate, which seems a little extreme. As of now, I have an Springfield XD9, and SW M&P Shield 9plus. I feel nice combo, depending on weather. I can comfortably have both OWB. I was thinking of the Ruger Max 380 to round things out......So I could have 3 different sizes, for different situations.

But yet places make you duck dodge knell to test?

Do'able for one, isn't always do'able for others.....does that make one non proficient? No.....again, having to hit a target at 25yrds, to me, is a joke....because, for self defense, you shouldn't be pulling a gun out at someone 25yrds away. Plenty of room/time to retreat.

1 gun in my collection is a p238. I couldnt hit 10 at 25yrds no matter how i try. Id be lucky to hit 2. Lets be honest... If you NEED to defend yourself at 25yrds, it's no longer self defense.

If i hear anything, ill def let you know.

I had to go to PA.....for employment fingerprinting. No way could I wait 6 weeks, to start working. I went into Philly. 1130am appt....walked in at 1115, out at 1130. quick and easy. It was an all in one business center. mailing, ups, passports, etc.

My info was a friend of a friend, who showed a photo of it. rumor is, it was just the 1....as a "test". Was signed by Judge McBride. I also have been told by inside source, that as of last week, Judge did have a stack delivered to him.

I know of ONE CamCo permit. It was no restrictions, with no court order. Just had qual gun on back.

Actually, i just heard of a Texas man with record being denied a gun.