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Hey, no problem. I know I'm anxious to read the transcripts, probably many are. I can't get enough of winning, it's very new to me as a NJ citizen. Also need to know where I can carry day to day, ha. When the governor sign the bill into law I was probably in Walmart or on my way home. Instant felon.

Depending on how these two cases are archived/combined, here are the links for the documents: SIEGEL v. PLATKIN (1:22-cv-07463) KOONS v. REYNOLDS (1:22-cv-07464)

Depending on how these two cases are archived/combined, here are the links for the documents: SIEGEL v. PLATKIN (1:22-cv-07463) KOONS v. REYNOLDS (1:22-cv-07464)

Yes, thanks for efforts NJ ANTI-GUNNERS RUNNING SCARED: Motion to Intervene in NJ Carry Law Challenge a Sign of WEAKNESS Always a good analysis

If you live in Ocean County and have handguns listed on an order or on your permit, "Judge Ryan is looking into this issue regarding your permit and permits obtained by others." I emailed his law clerk asking if he could rescind the court order from the original assignment judge in light of the bill the governor signed into law last December. This same judge has been rescinding the sensitive places order so he probably will do the right thing. Maybe if the court receives enough requests it may speed things up. Jessica M. Layton, Esq. Law Clerk to the Honorable Guy P. Ryan, P.J.Cr. Superior Court of New Jersey, Ocean Vicinage 120 Hooper Avenue, Courtroom 12 Toms River, N.J. 08754 Tel: 732-504-0700, Ext. 64239 E-mail: [email protected]

NY got some very favorable rulings at the district courts but the state went to the court of appeals and they reversed the lower courts order. NJ has a good court of appeals makeup, more Republican appointed judges than Democratic. So once this gets settled in Bumb's court the state will probably appeal and then we'll see who the three panel court is. Illinois got carry because they drew 2 out of 3 good judges.

Realizing we live in a state that has demonstrated a zeal for its "gotcha" laws, safest to try and get a rescind order from the court. While you wait, carry what's on your permit and/or court order. No one wants to be the posterboy for some prosecutor doing his job and saving us from scary guns.

It bears repeating, the Ocean County Superior Court issued an order rescinding a previous order on my behalf. The original assignment judge listed sensitive places and the current assignment judge reversed that. It only took an email to the law clerk and a week later I had the new order. I realize that there is mass confusion with these judges and the way they issue. There is no continuity across counties but try asking for a rescind order with your court.

My bad, most police are for legal carry, took me a minute. Well that's encouraging to hear.

Ha, can't decode "mist police are for legL carry" Is it most police are legal for carry? When my family member was pulled over out of state he had his badge on his leg facing the window. The on duty PO saw the badge and chatted him up for a minute or so then said be safe, the end. I guess it was assumed he was armed.

What state? Assuming not NJ, too soon for PD to be normalized with civilian carry IMO

In Ocean County the first assignment judge issued a one page "sensitive place" order which the next judge rescinded just by me asking. Judge Ryan said in his order sensitive places was the job of the legislature. He actually wrote in his order. Now that any gun you legally own is the law of the land in NJ, you should email the law clerk of your county and ask for a court order rescinding the "listed firearms" since it's moot. Then you have some paper you can file somewhere just in case.

I used the Delaware County website, paid online, was able to check status online and drove out to the courthouse and get my picture taken and license laminated and issued in 5 minutes. Real easy process.

Never thought I'd see this in NJ. Convenience store on corner of 571 & S. Stump Tavern in Jackson. Just up the road from CJRPC.

Local PD but court printed the permit, PD just handed under the glass, ha

Guess this guy can’t read, gun control originated in the South after the civil war, specifically to keep the freedmen unarmed.

I read the Plaintiff's brief, very well reasoned. The Siegel judge should let that case consolidate into Koons. Bumb did the earlier "justifiable need" case and of course has time and resources already invested on her TRO order in Koons. The state wants consolidation the other way for obvious reasons. Bumb is no help to NJ's case and the Siegel court was a Democratic appointment. I'm getting so used to winning that I expect this to go our way and Judge Bumb will continue to plow ahead helping dismantle NJ's terrible law.

For anyone interested, the Four Boxes Diner does the best job I've seen explaining and analyzing all the current 2A laws and court cases. This video covers the NY stay issue and why it is not bad news.

"blank permits" My permit was color laser printed with my photo glued to the paper. Not even folded, front and back side of the permit printed on the top of the page. I had to cut then fold and go to a store to get it laminated. So long as they have a color printer, scissors and glue any PD can do this. They simply need the graphic file from the NJSP

If NJ decides to go the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals, we stand a very good chance of pulling two out of three Republican appointed judges. The makeup of the 3rd changed from Democratic appointed control to Republican appointed during the Trump administration.

Had to travel in some unsavory neighborhoods this morning. Thankfully I returned safely. Next time I’ll be armed in my car again. We should all be grateful the court saw through the indefensible position of the state and issued the TRO. Frankly, I am not accustomed to winning this much. Justice Thomas gifted this country with a great 2A opinion, let the good times roll. BTW, going to write some more checks for these great organizations that are working on our behalf to restore things. I may have to stop saying “in free America” when referring to most non-NJ states.

Excellent, thanks for sharing

Good news