Glock26

Dont you just wish you can sometimes just swim across the river and leave the state to freedom? 8-) welcome to the forums.

agree 100%. Believe it or not most people just need to empty out a few magazines to learn the beauty of the sport. My gf for example, hated guns... until I bought mine, and took her to a few stores yesterday. My mother is actually ok now having being in the same house when I am cleaning my guns. =P

A 22lr will not run you much, and I would even suggest getting a 9mm possibly used. You can probly pick up both for under $500 or $600. Call up your local PD and see if you can request to have another permit done. When I requested mine, just asked for 5. Used one, 4 more to go. =)

My suggestion is to get two guns. Get a 22 to really learn to shoot, and get a 9mm as a good stepup. A 22 is not going to be a great home defense gun, but on what else can you shoot 500 rounds for under $15? On a browning buckmark and smith wesson 22a, put a brick (500 rounds of 22lr) through the gun a few days ago, not one cartrige ejected in my face. Most importantly, there will be jams with any gun, a smaller caliber will be much easier to get comfortable with to deal with those. A 9mm is a great stepping stone after that. My first 9mm was a Beretta 92fs, italian made. It is still by far my favorite. Shoots great, and because it is a full size gun, very little recoil. On the other hand, shot a Smith and Wesson M&P 9c (compact) and much great recoil. The beretta fit my hand well. another one to look into is the Taurus guns, 24/7 pro or OSS. slimmer grip. Other choice may be the Walther PPS (police pistol slim), it is a very slim pistol and easy to grip for smaller hands. Go to the gun stores, tell them you are a newbie and they will help.

Most of the indoor ranges would not. Probly have to find an outdoor range, either public or private. call up the folks at Ford Dix, but I believe there is a member here who shoots there regularly.

do a search on therighroad.org, or possibly xdtalk.com. I know I saw it at one of the two. Do a search xdm nj 9mm or something along those lines. I will look for it.

welcome. Glad you were able to escape. I have never actually made it to florida, will have to check it out. But jersey is a very diverse area, and unfortunetly, the politics of trenton, newark, camden, dictate it for the vast majority of NJ.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/gerald_warner/blog/2009/03/11/barack_obama_will_face_huge_opposition_if_he_yields_to_gun_control_lobby Barack Obama will face huge opposition if he yields to gun control lobby Posted By: Gerald Warner at Mar 11, 2009 at 20:38:05 [General] Posted in: Politics , Eagle Eye Tags: Barack Obama, firearms crime, gun control The deranged shooting dead of 10 people in Alabama, followed closely by a further 16 murders in Germany, will almost certainly be seized upon by gun control campaigners in the United States to further their agenda. In this they will find a willing ally in Barack Obama who, despite his weasel words after the Supreme Court outlawed the handgun ban in Washington DC (which he previously supported), has a record as a board member, for eight years, of the Joyce Foundation, which funds gun control groups, and as a long-time supporter of anti-firearms legislation. While cool logic suggests that a gun is only as good or bad as the character and purpose of its owner, the anti-firearms fanatics opportunistically seize upon public revulsion after serious gun crimes to press for blanket bans, without pausing to consider that, if a victim has his skull crushed with a golf club, we do not call for the outlawing of golf. Any American citizens who are tempted to go down the road of prohibition might be advised to consider the experience of Britain. Our handgun ban in 1997 was enacted with a fervency that went beyond rationality: not only were our Olympic competitors in pistol shooting hopelessly disadvantaged, but the sport was banned even for paraplegics, depriving some of them of their sole recreational interest. Presumably the calculation was that the next likely massacre would be perpetrated by someone in a wheelchair armed with a weak calibre pistol the ammunition for which was stored under lock and key five miles away. The success of this politically correct initiative can easily be measured. In 1997, the year of the ban, there were 2,636 handgun offences; in 2007 there were 4,175. In England and Wales there are now 28 firearms offences committed every day. Gun crime is now one of the most formidable challenges to law and order. Or Americans might look at Australia where, a year ago, a Draconian ban enforced the destruction of 640,381 personal firearms, at a cost of more than $500 million. The results? After 25 years of steady decrease in robberies with firearms, this offence increased by 44 per cent in one year. Homicides with guns increased by 3.2 per cent, assaults by 8.6 per cent. In the state of Victoria homicides with firearms rose 300 per cent. Break-ins and assaults on the elderly hugely increased. Criminals and lunatics will always find access to guns; but they will be less willing to use them if their victims are armed too. What doctrinaire liberal governments have done is make a Western movie in which the guys in the black hats all have guns, the guys in white hats do not. The Second Amendment to the American constitution and public opinion recognise that only a totalitarian government disarms its citizens. If Barack Obama tries to legislate on behalf of his supporters in the gun control lobby, he will have the mother of all fights on his hands.

I believe there was a place in north jersey, an FFL that would make the 19 round 9mm xdmags into 15.

Yes. Harry's wanted to get out of the handgun business, so one of the employees and 2? partners spun it off. They took the inventory etc. It looks like a great place with good selection. New handguns they are out of for the most part, but a good assortment of used guns, rifles, shotguns, accessories. New guns are on order. May pop in in a few days to check out what they got in.

George Mason did a study on personal freedoms... jersey, #49 just ahead of NY. Click Here

what is the gun in the Jackal? Have to add in Lord of War

Have your gf move to you. Dont move to Jersey. =P We do have the ocean though.

Welcome. Really nice to see all the jersey folks. Wanted to make it out to CJRC for a while. Do they ever have open days for new guests and prospective members?

With the rising ammo prices, might as well start reloading.

Also lots of local ranges have women's days to shoot. I know citizen's rifle club in West Windsor is having a teachers day, and a women's day soon.

Wow, cant believe rays closed down. I wonder why? It surely cannot be lack of business? I just went to the gun shop here in Hamilton and they were packed... looks like a bunch of new people just getting their FID's picking up guns. Ray's while convenient, always seemed a bit "blah". Also a bit expensive for what it was. I dont recall their gun shop pricing, but seemed like they had a pretty good selection.

Good to know that they are at least considering it. Windsor, is that a S&W M&P? How do you like it?

Read somewhere that the place is nearly out of business? Anyone know if that is true? Havent made it up that way in a long while.