Dewhitewolf

Just reading over this, I think that there are many facts that were not reported, or that the story is exaggerated. We've all heard the story about Gregg Revell, and how he was arrested and charged for an unloaded, declared firearm. I highly doubt that the prosecutor would ignore this case, especially since once she had it on the plane, she was in violation of federal law--license or no license. Either this story is a fabrication, or there's more than what we're reading.

Regardless of whether she had a carry permit or not, bringing firearms into the secure area of an airport is still something she can and should be charged and prosecuted. Those areas are off limits to permit carriers, regardless of state. As far as the officer handling the gun, he should not have handled it the way he did.

How would FL know whether the LEO is on duty or not when he/she takes the prints? They can call the agency to verify the LEO's employment, but I doubt they'll ask whether they were on duty or not.

Any NRA Basic Pistol or First Steps Pistol will cover both safety and marksmanship. Courses beyond that will likely cover competition or self protection. ANJRPC offers discounted Basic Pistol courses at different locations. www.anjrpc.org

Thanks. I'm looking it over now.

Yes, a law enforcement officer must do the fingerprinting. I have heard stories of applicants using retired LEO's to do it, as well as stories of civilian employees of police departments doing it, and FL wouldn't accept it. This then results in a delay (supposedly FL will contact you to give you the opportunity to correct this). Just to be clear, it can be any law enforcement officer--does not have to be from your hometown, or even your home state. They just have to be an active duty law enforcement officer.

This is a common myth that sometimes appears on gun forums. You may bring firearms, including handguns, to PA to go to a range or club to shoot. Just use common sense--transport in the trunk (or secured container) unloaded. Many of the members of my club in PA are residents of NJ. So if it were illegal, the police in PA would have rounded up hundreds of us years ago. When I first got into shooting, I was told by an acquaintence that bringing guns across state lines was "a federal offense" and "interstate gun running" and punishable up to 15 years in federal penitentiary. When I made an inquiry with the attorney general's office of PA, the woman who answered the phone just laughed, then reassured me that there is no problem, as long as you are not a prohibited person and your possession in your home state is legal.

My police department tried to use nonsense like this to delay my FID and purchase permits. I eventually filed a formal complaint with the mayor's office (naming every officer and civilian employee who gave me a hard time about it). Two days later, my FID and permits were magically approved and they called me to tell me I could pick them up anytime. But I would recommend what the others suggested, join and contact the NJ 2AS and learn from them how to proceed. They may help you get an attorney's help in moving forward. They have been kicking the ass of many police departments, including Asbury Park, for requiring additional documents and disclosures in violation of state law.

I would be interested as well. I used to be a volunteer EMT a long time ago, but my certifications have long since expired. I'd be interested in something more than just basic first aid and CPR.

I've had my FID since 1999 and I laminated it right away. I never had a problem with it till earlier this year. Believe it or not, one of the staff at RTSP told me that I wasn't supposed to laminate it, because that was considered defacing it. That was the only time I ever had an issue. Their explanation: it's the same law that prohibits you from laminating a social security card. I told them that that was a federal regulation that did not apply to the states. I challenge anyone to show me a state law that prohibits laminating a FID.

It all depends on the state where it happened and what that state's law says about the justifiable use of deadly force. One state may require that the attacker have a weapon and/or that the attacker MUST be attacking the defender (CCW holder, for example), but the next may not. This is why it's important to know what the law is of the state you are in, not necessarily the law of your state of residence or the state that issued your CCW permit. Believe it or not, many states do not require an immediate threat to your own life to justify deadly force; some states allow deadly force to stop arson, kidnapping, or rape (even if you have no direct connection to the victim). Not that I'm suggesting or advocating a "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality, but it is interesting to see the broad spectrum of self defense law from one state to another. One book I have on the subject is Self-Defense Laws of All 50 States by Mitch Vilos & Evan Vilos. This is a great book on the subject, but, as the author states, it is NOT legal advice. It more like general information that makes a good starting point for research into self defense law of states, including when a person must attempt retreat first.

Not too long ago I noticed that the Motor Vehicle office in Randolph had an armed guard. When I saw that (I only needed to renew my registration), I walked out and drove to the one in Washington (Warren County). Not only was there no armed security (none in uniform anyway), but there was also no line. In and out in less than five minutes. I wasn't so much concerned about the armed guard causing me a problem, but more about the people who caused the need for there to be an armed guard in the first place.

Like everyone else has been saying, it's just a matter of features. Some are double action/single action, some are DAK (their version of double action only), some have short reset trigger. Some guns come with custom grips, rubber grips, or the standard plastic. Some come with night sights as a standard feature. Some have the "front cocking serrations," making it easier to pull the slide back by holding the front of the slide (a tactic taught in many defensive shooting courses). I have the regular P226 and I love it. I think that regardless which model you get, you'll love yours as well. As best I can tell, they all come with the accessory rail under the slide; mine is an older model that doesn't have that feature.

I'm glad your situation worked out. Should a similar situation have happened to me, I would have returned the gun, then asked for why it really needed to be returned. Of course I would want a refund and at least reimbursement for costs incurred traveling. After all, had it actually been used in a crime, the police could have merely confiscated it, without compensation. Perhaps the law enforcement community in PA is a little more forgiving than in NJ, and would rather not initiate an investigation into an innocent purchaser unnecessarily. Giving the dealer the opportunity to recover a potential crime gun, and be compensated for the trouble, to me seems like a win-win (the police get potential evidence they might need, the innocent purchaser does not get a gun confiscated or otherwise "involved" with a police matter, the innocent purchaser receives a refund and additional compensation, and the dealer gets to save face).

Try here: http://www.letargets.com/ That's where I buy my targets from now, although I don't buy cardboard, just paper.

Why not try this--have them ship the gun to a dealer in NJ without the magazines, then just order NJ compliant magazines.

I was just thinking about NJ's naval militia. Their mission was to observe and report suspicious activity; it was not an armed agency, except for those members who were already allowed to be armed (current law enforcement, permit carriers, etc.). They worked in full cooperation with the state police and the coast guard. As far as Arizona, I think that they should have the full right to do what they believe necessary to secure the border there. If the suits in Washington can't contain the problem, let the locals in Arizona be empowered to deal with the problem directly, in a manner they deem appropriate. Is Arizona taking donations for this project? Those volunteers should not feel they are alone.

NJ statutes do not require notification to the officer that you have firearms in the car. If the officer asks about anything in your car, simply say "my attorney advised me to only answer questions directly related to the traffic stop." This statement cannot be used against you later. You are merely standing on your rights. Whatever you do, DON"T consent to a car search (even if you have not done anything wrong). A routine traffic stop alone does not provide probable cause for a search of your car. As far as truck beds, I would recommend putting a tarp or blanket over top of your cases, range bag, etc. There's no need to give anyone a "plain view" excuse.

It does not help any cause to just flood the police depts and courts with requests for NJ carry permits. Most, if not all, will be denied for lack of justifiable need. Many other states carry permit forms require disclosing any prior denials for carry permits (who wants to check yes to that and have to explain?). The ANJRPC and SAF, in a joint effort, have been pushing a lawsuit to challenge the constitutionality of the law by presenting six (I believe it was six) plaintiffs who applied and were denied, but had what they believe to be justifiable need. One plaintiff eventually had to withdraw, because the judge that initially denied him called him in for another hearing, and granted him the carry permit (I forget his name, but he was the one kidnapped by the biker gang in a case of mistaken identity). It is more helpful to the cause to support the actions that are organized by groups like ANJRPC and SAF (whether as a member or not). They put together plans that are well thought out and with definite goals. Randomly doing things like flooding police depts with permit applications is neither helpful nor productive.

It's easy to sit on the sidelines and complain about organizations like the NRA. What involvement have you had to see how such a large organization keeps running, besides choosing whether to be a member? Have you written to NRA headquarters to voice your concern and suggest change? Or do you just go online and rant about it on a forum? If you feel you can run the organization better, then try becoming a board member or other officer in the organization. If you honestly feel that they piss away money or pay too much in salaries, then offer to do one of these positions for free (then, maybe after seeing first hand what these folks do, you'll understand why they get paid in the first place). Why do they send out so many mailings? For the same reason a lot of businesses do--to remind the clientele they are there. They need to solicit donations to keep operating. People generally do not donate funds to nonprofits on a regular basis without being asked. Sending out occasional letters increases the donations they get. Occasionally they partner with outside vendors in an effort to increase the value of NRA membership (whether this is misguided is a matter of opinion). Like any other NRA member, I don't agree with everything they do or every stance they take. However, I continue to support them as they continue to fight for us. If you think you can do better, please by all means show us.

If you want one, knock yourself out. Functionally I think they are worthless (just my opinion). I don't see any advantage of showing them to anyone, even after a self defense shooting. But if you're the type who likes to collect novelties, go for it. As far as whether they are "legal" or not, I believe those states only make them illegal to show in public to mislead someone to believe the holder was a cop. I do not believe they are contraband to the point of being illegal to own, particularly if the intent is to have it as a novelty item on a desk or shelf.

That gives me an idea. We should welcome this whole thing about taking unused gift lamps, but extend it to all the junk we have. Let's all get rid of our junk for free!

As far as RTSP goes, it is my understanding that the four guys who own the place are co-owners. That alone allows them to carry in their place of business. Aside from that, I believe two (perhaps three) of them are active LEO's. You do not need to own the land the business is on; you only need to own the business. Your right to carry at your business is limited to the business premises--it is not a right to carry to or from your business, or to carry while in a company vehicle. Evan Nappen had a case where ownership of a business was at issue--the client claimed the business was his because he managed it and ran everything having to do with it. However, the business was actually owned by someone else, to whom he paid a monthly check. The client in that case lost, because he was not the actual owner of the business. So my advice is to make sure that your ownership (or even partial ownership) is unmistakable. Of course, it's a good idea to talk to an attorney about liability as well.

If I remember correctly, it used to be that a 18-20 yr old could buy a pistol from a private person, but that all changed at some point during the Whitman years. I could be wrong, but I think it may have been connected to the statute that required trigger locks to be sold with each gun.

I flew out of Newark airport without any issues. Visit TSA's website, and print out their page on declaring and transporting firearms. Then print out the page for the airline you are flying with (likely the regulations will be the same, but some airlines have additional requirements). Bring BOTH with you when you fly, so if there are any issues, you can prove you are in the right. Go to the airline counter and declare your firearm--make a note of the person's name just in case. They should give you a declaration for you to sign. Do not use a TSA lock to secure the hardsided container--only a keyed or combination lock. If they want to inspect it (they did not inspect mine), you have to open it for them. Point out on your printed copy that you are compliant with all the regulations. Oddly enough, I faced more issues coming back (from Nevada), but that had more to do with the fact that the counter person didn't know what she was supposed to do (she was either new or just never had someone declare a firearm before). Since I had the printed copies of the regulations handy, I was able to walk her through it.