SpecialK

I like how everyone here seems so optimistic that asking for 1 or 6 doesn't matter at all. Does it probably not matter? I would hope so, but the PD's here make up their own rules!!!!!! They do what ever the hell they want and if the guy in charge decides he wants to sit on your case for a couple extra months because he doesn't like the idea of you getting 6 instead of just one he will and in the words of Officer Lopez at the West Orange PD "you can take that to who ever you want" yup, screw you you cannot stop me from doing it this way. Hell maybe he decided that anyone that gets PPP at all will take much longer. Not saying this will happen, but it can. FcuK This State!

I almost cried I was laughing so hard, that is just so incredibly sad and ridiculous at the same time... and most likely true.

You could also have the COE already filled out and signed to transfer her the gun, just don't date it. Once the incident happens just write any date from the day of or before onto the piece of paper. Me personally I would use this as an excuse to buy multiple guns though. "Oh tough luck baby we both need to buy a pistol and a shotgun each, stupid NJ gun laws!"

if you decide on a shotgun then here is what you do. Long guns can be transfer between two FPID holders with a simple Certificate of Eligibility, you can just print these up yourself. You both get FPID's and then you fill out COE's transferring the gun to each other dated on the same day. Keep them in separate places. If there is an incident and the shooter is asked to provide ownership of the gun you then pull out the proper COE to prove that the person was legally transfered the gun. If New Jersey wants their gun laws to be gray and fuzzy, then we shall operate just as gray and fuzzy I say.

I thought about it, but I rather not spend a crap load of money right now. I don't mind spending a little extra to get something good with the card, but a couple extra hundred is pushing it.

I recently received a $100 Sport authority gift card and I am not sure how to spend it. If I was still in Colorado I would have already bought a new rifle or at least some more ammo, but I am not sure what to do with it here in NJ. I have already spent more time than I would want to on their site thinking of ideas, so I figured I'd throw the question out here. What to buy from Sports Authority??????

Buy it now!

Because people stupid enough to live in this state in fact have something seriously wrong with them. Takes one to know one

I agree with you 100% unfortunately we live in NJ where it is written that gun ownership is illegal, unless it is written to be legal under certain conditions. Not being able to find anything that exempts a company in NJ to own a firearm I can say that I am unable to find anything that makes it legal. Fix what you wrote at the end for you, since I am pretty sure the people in this state wrongfully arrested for having guns when they did not provide the officer with a FPID card would argue that you cannot be charged. Isn't NJ wonderful!

can't you just knock the pin out unscrew it take the gas block off and then put it back on and put the pin back in?

so that automatically makes it legal? Just saying I can't find anything that exempts private security companies and allows them to purchase firearms. I'm not saying it is or isn't legal, just saying there is no written law that I can find that makes it legal.

are you accepting applications for this position? I really could use a new shotgun. Why would it have to remain on the premise? If only the one employee is going to be allowed to shoot it then why is it not just kept in that employees possession? I remember being in a conversation on THR about this a long time ago. The end decision was that a company cannot own a firearm I believe. Here's the thread http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-447374.html If we weren't in NJ my same offer to the guy in that thread of buying it and loaning it to you would stand, but not an option here as New Jersey is a terrible terrible place.

you give criminals a force monopoly and they are going to use it.

An elephant gun! Because then I would be at least 8 or 9 feet tall to be able to conceal such a thing! The trench coat could get kinda warm in the summer time though...

It's all these responses that are ok with a permitting system that give the anti's so much ground to stand on. It's all a gray areas of how much regulation is allowed, gray is scary and bad, NJ is gray. If permits are "reasonable" then why isn't a statewide registration of all people with firearms? The way people are raised here blows my mind. I am starting another project to add to my door to door campaign. Free gun lessons for Kids! and no I am not joking. I am going to start offering free firearms education to all the kids my friends have and even maybe make up a flier to hand out as well. If I can get them young enough who knows maybe we can shake the ignorance out of this state.

you know where I stand, this is disgusting that it is even a thing to vote on.

I have to say I usually had to wade through chest deep bs, but this time it was pretty balanced. I am obviously not against fracking, but I know it can fugg up your area, so I'll let it happen somewhere else.

at the West Orange street fair today I was stopped and asked to sign a petition to stop the fracking near the Delaware river which I strongly support, so I signed no problem. When asked to sign the national petition to stop fracking all together I said "no thank you", in which the dirty hippie girl responded "you just said fracking is bad, you should sign this one as well" I replied "I am more of a not in my backyard kind of guy" she said "You should care about other people" I said "Nope" that was the end of the conversation, she wouldn't even talk to my girl after that, just awkward silence as I finished signing the Delaware petition and looked over the information at her booth. I love upsetting hippies. I could really make a hobby out of it I studied fracking in an environmental politics class once and I can say it can really fugg up your way of life if it is done close to you, but as long as it isn't it can provide natural gas to light your grill for the summer.

get both

That is a fantastic idea! On memorial day I usually tell people that thank me for my service that "if you really want to thank me on memorial day you can donate to a charity that helps the families of my fallen brothers and sisters." www.woundedwarriorproject.org http://www.specialops.org/ http://www.cfsrf.org/ http://www.freedomisnotfree.com/ http://www.fallenpatriotfund.org/ * I am only personally familiar with the first two charities I posted. When donating one should always read about the charity first and decide if it is going to do with your money what you intend it for. Cheers to all that have fallen in the past, those that are falling in the present, and even to those that will take up the call and unfortunately fall in the future. It is these great men and woman's sacrifices that ensure that our great nation will carry on.

Congrats! I am confused about your "wanting better" statement though. Are you suggesting that Officers are better? Cause I don't see it

I read the Declaration of Independence almost daily to make it through life here. Lots of good stuff in the opening about what we should be doing to fix this.

So it is reasonable for him to drive an hour round trip out of his way to have to go shoot? That would be the definition of unreasonable to me. My statement cannot be anymore clear. It is reasonable to do so, NJ is the unreasonable party in this issue.

Bringing your guns to work and going to the range afterward seams reasonable to me. As most have posted it doesn't matter what your views on reasonable are. The decision of what is reasonable is ironically made by unreasonable persons.