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was my first reaction, but the idea of getting to turn an anti-gun person into a pro-gun person is great! I personally look to the second amendment of the United States Constitution. when making final decisions on firearms. Do what you need to make her comfortable and keep yourself legal under the law of the United States though.

Clicked on the link and got this... "Are you a cable subscriber who receives News 12? If you have purchased a monthly or yearly subscription: Click Cablevision Yes, I am a subscriber to: Cablevision Comcast Time Warner Service Electric No, I am not a subscriber Click here to purchase a subscription for only $4.95 a month or $48 a year. Only $4.95 a month or $48 yearly." wouldn't let me do anything on the site unless I was willing to pay, typical NJ site :roll:

Depends on the HD situation you are going to find yourself in. A firearm is only as tactical as the situation it is used in. Basically your best bet is to have one that you are comfortable with physically and mentally (if you like a gun, even a little bit more just because of its looks you will be more confident with it). Go out and see if you can test fire anything you are interested in. Remember even this .45 can be tactical depending on the situation.

I was planning on buying land here in Colorado before moving to Jersey to come back and vacation and eventually retire on, I'd be happier than shit on a stick if my missus gave up on NJ sooner than that though. :mrgreen:

20 bucks will get you an unlimited Small Game license (just keep track of what you are shooting because there are daily bag limits) 25 to 45 bucks for big game, and if you want a buck you need to go into a lottery, but you can buy extra left over Buck tags later in the season if they are available. Guns, ammo and clothes to hunt in are all cheap just go to one of the hundreds of stores that sells them and you can pick them up all at once. oh wait that's only if you lived in Colorado. :mrgreen: sorry, can't stop bragging sometimes :twisted: is NJ serious that I have to have adjustable iron sights or a scope on my shotty to hunt with it? how does that make any sense???

I opened the link to the Hillary pic before the original link and I have to say that the original retained its ridiculous status even after an eye full of scariness. That is one gun I would regift if I was given it for free.

I accept all those answers as fact. Well minus the "it gets to hot" that's just silly.

side note: why does he put gloves on?

Welcome! I am the token Canadian, that doesn't even live in New Jersey, but will eventually. I can see we're going to get along just fine by two words from your post Enjoy the forums.

supply and demand.

I was about to go crack another beer, but I might need two this trip to the fridge after reading that. It's like knowing a hell exists for sure and also knowing you are going there for sure.

:mrgreen: My roommate isn't wanting to go with me, so I guess I'll have to go to this show by myself http://www.tannergunshow.com/showinfo.html I am really trying to talk myself out of going but it is only 45 minutes away, but I just bought a new shotgun and I really don't see myself walking away without a new toy though..... I am at least limited by funds of how crazy i can get....I think the closer I get to moving to NJ the more I want to buy up guns here!

I'm getting to the point where I would say yes that is illegal, but so is every other gun in NJ. Thankfully NJ is willing, for a fee of course, to issue you a waiver (FPID) for the law though. With your waiver that shotgun would be legal in NJ.

they had two used ones at the shop I was at and claimed both were form the 70's, mine actually after some research was from 1980. The other was 275USD and mine was 300USD. The mechanics looked great on both, but the wood on mine looked so pristine and who doesn't like pretty things? thehighroad.org actually has a few 870's on sale from various states right now, just sign up and check their trading post area. I always want more guns in my collection, but never had one inspired me to get more of the same before(with slight variations at least). I want to get a few alternate barrels a first then perhaps have just a few different 870's to play with. Not willing to say best shotgun ever, but willing to say best shotgun I have experienced!

Welcome :mrgreen: I am the Canadian that lives in Colorado, so basically that makes me more American(not at heart, for sure, that is up for debate, but with gun rights) than everyone else on this board. I'll be there in just over a year though, so I like to be around on these boards from time to time. You'll meet great guys here to shoot with. I worked at shoprite for over 3 months this summer and I didn't know about the reduced produce! I probably would have got in trouble for shooting it in the back yard in West Orange though :mrgreen:

it is a sharp learning curve. if you've never had to kick a door in I suggest you retract your post or at least add that fact to your post. let's put it this way, I am going to Vegas next weekend, is it impossible for me to walk away with a lot of money(legally through gambling, not just stealing it)? no, but it is unlikely. Only I will be there to see the cards fall though, so unless you are standing next to me or them leave your Monday night quarter backing to yourself. The best we can hope for is that this serves as a wake up call to those that need it and a reminder to those that don't. My heart gose out to the survivors of this mess, I hope the loved ones can carry on and not make silly political decisions because of this. P.S. no knocks, when you could just spend the money for a 2 week stake out instead waiting for the right moment, are retarded, what's the rush????? We are in a time of peace in this country(physically) right?

I don't get any pleasure from these sort of cartoons, because while I can laugh because it is the "Obama Administration" that is doing this, it is not one man. I hope for the days of Garfield, McKinley, Hayes, Arthur and Harrison a time when a President did his job! These men are barely remembered because the seat of the president was not meant to be a glorified position. At least not any more than the name of those in Congress. I know these days it is impossible to be able to spout off all the names of the house and the senate, but that does not mean we should rally around(or against) the one common name we can all recall at dinner parties. At very least know your own reps, please!

I thought the one without the added background music was more creepy personally http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrsl8o4ZPo I read some of the comments from the first linked video and the ones that didn't sit well with me the most were the ones that claimed if it was one about Bush that "we" would be fine with it. The fact that people aren't wising up to the fact that this is not a 2 party system that we are stuck with scares me. Almost how the residents of NJ don't also know better that their gun laws are the worst ever by regular Americans standings and are willing to debate for scraps. First scardy cats that decide to leave their parties may not be the will be the real winners, but at least they can blaze the way for those that truly need to see others do it. I know they seem random, but I am just getting tired of this shit and like to see... something good http://912dc.dhwritings.com/ and a reminder of why we need to get these idiots out of power and control of our "well being" http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/09/inspector_clous.html

I personally don't think that we should deprive these people from doing this. They can do it all they want in my opinion, because while some may think not everyone should be able to handle a gun, I think not everyone should continue to live. I also believe in guilty by association. I would not have thought badly had a single one of them been shot by this drunk a-hole because I did not hear a single "no, stop!" but instead saw two people at least filming this idiocy! The problem isn't humans being humans when it comes to gun ownership, it is humans trying to be inhuman by holding the whole race to a higher standard than we can achieve. The idiots aren't going anywhere, so our "compassion" needs to.

if you want privacy then get a dark room, they have to look at the pictures to develop them, it isn't a magical machine that makes sure it did its own job. Any time you turn in film to be developed the person (or persons) at the store will see you photo's. They are even required by law to report crimes that they see of the developed film in most areas. You were miss informed if you thought that a photo developer had a privacy policy. (sorry that all seemed very in your face, it was meant in more of a dry informative way, but I'm to bored to retype all of it so lets just add a slew of faces at the end :ugeek: :mrgreen: :shock: 8-) :geek: :mrgreen: :twisted: :oops: :idea: :!: :!: there much better.) That is a great story! Stuff like that always makes me feel better I remember getting the most awesome packages when I was over there, all they would be was beef jerky and baby wipes, which were awesome! But even more pleasing were the few times someone looked me in the eye and thanked me for my service (it is always better than being spit on).

while I agree they did many stupid things I don't understand the description given by the poster (or reposter in this case from reading the comments) "This video has been posted for the benefit of NJ law enforcement. Law enforcement who have questions may contact the shooter of the video at his residence: Scott Martha Turner Garfield NJ , 07026 Cheers Here is the thread on ar15.com: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html... If you go to this guy's car videos (his youtube account is OneHotPorsche944) you can see the house at this address is where his car is parked in the other videos. " the benefit of NJ law enforcement? What benefit? While they were unsafe retards many times on the video I saw nothing illegal what so ever. It's the "get the cops" mentality that is the problem these days, they are not here to fix everything and anything! we are capable human beings!!!!! Quit looking for a crutch to lean on and do something yourself! Which I will give credit to the poster for posting the video in the first place, but his call for the cops to "investigate" this shoot makes me want to slap him upside the head as much as I want to slap those shooting in an unsafe manner.

well you will have my vote and my willingness to educate once I get there, because I am going to be seriously pissed off when I have to not only jump through hoops to get new guns, but pay way more for them since they are so hard to get when i get there. I walked into the gun shop here, filled out the paper work for my NCIS, waited just over an hour for it to run then walked out with my new shotgun, just the other day. I am going to miss that very much so when I move to stinkville.

I was seriously getting angry reading some of the replies here and how people are treated in this state. Thanks tb for that little bit to make me feel better slightly. I am going to be trying to get my FID probably before I move to NJ. I will however will not jump through any more hoops than are "legally" set up by the state. I rather be denied 100 times than give into scare tactics by local PD's that don't think the law applies to them. I am not someone to mess with when it comes to my freedoms, I didn't serve to be told to go fuck myself.

you meant the 50 months it would take you to buy 50 handguns is the same as the 2 months it would take you to buy 2 handguns... oh wait that's not the same at all, you are both screwed just one way more grossly than the other. I'm all with you on the statement, since when do we live in a Need based society?

I thought it was 10 pairs of shoes in NJ Only if they have high heels.. if that's true my girl is going to be serving quite a few consecutive life sentences. :mrgreen: