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Buck in the tube, because if you don't have time to rack it then you want to shoot something that is going to stop the assailant no matter what. Bird Next on deck in case you decide the buck in the tube is going to have penetration issues and you have time to rack it once. Slug on hand(to hand load and rack) or 2nd in the magazine in case a family member is being used as a human shield with a knife or gun to them and you need to go for a head shot. Might want to get a tin foil hat to wear if you are at the point for the last one to make sense...mine is made of Reynolds wrap the cheap stuff doesn't stop all the government agencies at once.

This made me throw up in my mouth a little. I am truly disgusted. I will be asking the people I put down as references to show me the letters for sure now.

I just buy these ones for shooting and drumming http://www.amazon.com/3M-Foam-Ear-Plugs-1100/dp/B000WTAKBS of course this is coming from a guy that use to get to the range with his platoon and realize none of us brought the ear plugs, so we'd smoke two cigs before we shot and use the butts

What?!?! If you ask any of my friends in the SF they will tell you the rules Rule 1: Always look cool Rule 2: Always know where you are Rule 3: If you don't know where you are for the love of god look cool I would actually argue that the way a gun looks does matter. If you are happy with the way it looks that is positive mental stimulation. While I will agree that it is most likely the least important variable, no reason not to top out all the variables involved for best results.

I'm not super familiar with the Sig226 or M&P9, but after reading a bit I will still stick with a .45 Colt Series 70 1911 for a good SHTF handgun. When SHTF you need something that is going to work no matter what. Less moving parts is better, no firing pin safety on this model. The Colt 1911 is designed to be completely broken down with no tools at all (you can you a .45 bullet to take the recessed screws out). If you are going 9mm because of mag capacity just buy more mags and practice quick changing. Of course when it comes down to it go with whatever you are comfortable shooting with. The rest of the list looks pretty good to me. P.S. I found this tip about a Sig226 while reading more about them "One tip; if you take the follower out of a ten-round magazine and put it in a fifteen-round magazine, it increases the capacity of the magazine by one round." source: http://www.cybershooters.org/dgca/sig-sauer_p226.htm not that anyone here would break the law and do that

Hip hip hooray!

Warning shots are a risk I am not willing to take personally. In this case they worked, but they could have easily provoked a fight not flight reaction. While gunfire can shake and put fear into a man, there is nothing like watching the person next to you absorb a bullet. Basically if they are going to run at warning shots then they are going to run at one of them getting shot. If they are going to fight regardless of it being warning shots or an actual hit at least I have a few of them down already.

I am disgusted by him being arrested, but I am also disappointed in his actions. Pulling out a gun to threaten a crowd of people? Pull it out when you need to shoot someone. i do not agree with pulling out guns as deterrents. I feel we should pull them out and use them. Had that been me there would be at least one dead gang banger. I sa only one cause I assume the rest of the cowards would have ran after the 1st one got shot, any more that would have advanced on me would also get a bullet along with any that reached for their own weapon. I could only dream that all 25 of them decide to keep facing me to receive their hot lead injection. I hate criminal scum in case you didn't notice.

Shotgun lesson learned #1 JonF and I were shooting slugs out of my Mossy 500 at Colliers Mills. I had thrown the pistol grip on it to test out. Needless to say I was missing everything I aimed at at 20 yards shooting from the hip. I lined it up with my face and whammo. Fat, bloody lip. At least I kept all my teeth. :oops: I can't understand why you would do that? Just do a youtube search on "shotgun to the face" and that'll let you know not to do that. I hadn't missed a single shot yet with any of the rifles, pistols or shotguns we were using and the only other person there that had the same record so far was a Special Forces weapons Sergeant. I wasn't going to start missing for any reason. He missed his first shot with the pistol grip shotty and I didn't pay for a single drink when we headed out that night. Understand now?

the recon and scouting ability of this would be the only thing I'd be interested in using this for, but like many have asked what the hell is the battery time and the range of this thing?

shot skeet before I moved here with my Mossberg with a pistol grip (18 inch) and with my buddies with a pistol grip that was a 14 inch. We both did fine at it. I have to say it was exciting when the first round fired shattered the clay. We honestly thought it was going to be a lot harder. I got one right before it landed about 3 feet off the ground and about 75 meters away. Luckily every one was cheering to loud to see that I got kicked in the face on that one cause I pulled it in to tight to make the shot. No missing teeth, no blood, just a little bump.

I'd be willing to wager that less cops show up for work here than did in the case of Katrina if a disaster/emergency happens and if they do as posted above do you really think they have the time and man power to do it? Even if they do show up there is no way they are leaving with all of them Ever hear the saying don't keep all your eggs in the same basket?

+1

Realistically prepared. Every disaster and messed up situation that I have ever been in there was one occurring theme. People never thought of it ever happening. One thing that stuck with me from my tour in Iraq when we first invaded in 2003 was when I would talk to the locals and they would say they never saw it coming. They told me they were shocked at first to see troops on their own streets. I vowed never to be shocked or unprepared for anything that could happen be it riot, natural disaster, invasion of a foreign army, aliens or even zombies Saying "that will never happen here" about anything doesn't make it true.

2nd the over night soak in oil, but if that doesn't work sounds like the pin is bent. Without being able to put my hands on it couldn't tell you for sure, but it sounds like you want to take it in to a gunsmith to work on it.

for sure, one of my favorites. This one made me think of New Jersey for some reason. Maybe it was the "cease thought" part.

Damnit I could have bought a truck load of inoperative rifles for like 10 bucks a pop in Colorado before I moved and made a hell of a profit. Oh well next time I move to Colorado and then back here I'll have to remember to do it :twisted:

Yup, people defend the Constitution the way they defend court decisions. If they agree with them then it is law, if not then it is up for interpretation still. Every one is all about the Constitutional rights of the people that want the mosque built, but what about the 1st Amendment rights for those that oppose the mosque? I personally don't care if it is built or not, I do however support their right to build it and the rights of the people that are against it to protest it. The mosque isn't a Constitutional issue, I don't see why politicians and the media keep bringing that into the.....what a minute! Could it be that the media is a ratings whore and there is an election coming up so the politicians are stirring up a non-issue under the guise of it being a Constitutional issue to rally support. Nah that would be just crazy. It must have just been a misunderstanding somewhere.

As a Canadian I am offended! the threat of Islam? Ha! How about the threat of Christianity? They already have a strong grip on this nation. We need to fight against them harder than Islam if we are ever going to win!

+a million

"1. All persons are by nature free and independent, and have certain natural and unalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and of pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness." That would be from the NJ Constitutions. My argument would be "Your honor you expect me to defend life liberty and protect my property against criminals with guns with a spork?" Then if I was denied I'd attack him with a spork, in which I would probably fail against the bailiff who is armed. As I was being hauled off I would be screaming "See! See! the spork was no match!!!! The spork was no match!!!!"

I love this argument it is rallying up people on each side. Hopefully I get to see a throw down between both religions! Those that follow islam are pretty much the same as christians. The vast majority aren't observant of their religion and only pray when they are down and out or want to win the lottery. This argument is getting those that typically don't do anything with their chosen religion into the mix. I just wish it was big enough of a deal to get all 2.4 billion Christians and all 1.8 Billion Muslims to pick up arms and start killing each other. Oh well, keep creating enemies out of each other and I can hope and dream that one day a mass battle with heavy casualties on both sides will occur. Christians sicken me as much as Muslims as all Christians are members of the KKK as all Muslims are members of al qaeda.