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I think they came up with a better way as if you weren't well hydrated you'd be screwed if you couldn't pee on demand.

We were peeing on socks and tying them to our face. Works pretty good with chlorine but not so good with mustard gas.

I read a testimony to the 870 durability a few years ago. A guy had a 870 he used for years to shoot trap and skeet and he was a meticulous record keeper. His 870 started to give him feeding problems. Never missed a beat before. He sent it back to Remington for a fix and researched his records. He had fired over 500,000 rounds through that gun. Maybe not the norm but an example. I've found that a $6 can of quality matte black barbeque spray paint does wonders for the worn finish of a utility shotgun. Degrease well and be careful and it looks great. Pretty durable and easy to touch up.

We didn't have machetes in WWI. We used 1911s, 1917 S&Ws, etools, and a sword if you were lucky enough to find one

A machete would work on him and would be easier to clean up.

This has been discussed before. Don't use birdshot for HD. Yes, it might work but has shallow penetration. Shooting melons proves it is good on melons not SD. Use buckshot for HD.

Purpose of a 410 is for small game. You can defend yourself with a 410 just like you can with a 22 rf but neither would be the best choice. A 20 gauge is not much less than a 12. I have a couple of sxs including a 12 gauge coach gun. I don't think the recoil is that bad. However, I would suggest a 20 gauge pump for an all around gun. Mossbergs can be had for under 300 just a little more than the Savage and NEF Chinese imports (which are pretty decent).

Not that I'm advocating this but if she was wearing a Kevlar helmet with a face shield she may have survived. Many would say that's militarization of the police.

So true. The brass in LE have always been resistant to change or spending money. They're supported by public opinion in many cases. Just search for the number of posts on this forum where many consider police use of any armored vehicle or adoption of more practical uniforms "militarization" of police. Adopting better equipment that really doesn't cost anymore meets resistance. Hollow points were pretty much in general use by the mid 70s. NYPD had to wait until 1998 to be able to use them. Even when NYPD was allowed to carry semiautomatic about 1990 they were restricted to fmj and 10 Rd magazines. I got my first set of soft body armor in 1976. I bought it out of my pocket. First issued set I got was about 1982. That was because I worked for a federal agency. Local police still didn't have it. Can't recall any recently but in the past 10-15 years I can remember PBAs having benefits to buy the men and women on their department body armor. Administrators are very slow to react to anything unless it affects them...and the public is for it.

Agreed

Another sign the EU will implode. The EU is like the Democrats here, "we know better how you should do something", "it takes a village", "the government will protect you", "we must pass it so we can see what's in it", "you just don't know the entire situation like we do", etc. The EU will dissolve by 1s and 2s. The ones that stay in the longest are those with poor economies that depend on the wealthier nations to keep bailing them out.

@Newtonian, whatever works for you

@Newtonian, yes there was an I frame S&W. It was chambered for 38 S&W and 32 S&W long. When they wanted to make a small frame 38 special the I frame was too short for that caliber. They lengthened the I frame to create the J frame. Small guns can be very accurate. It's the sights and the shooter's skill level are what degrade accuracy.

@High Exposure, generally agree with your assessment of the 380. I've used FMJ since the 70s. I've also carried it guns like the PP, PPK, Bersa, and various Berettas. I agree with Skeeter Skelton's opinion that a 380 with FMJ is about as effective as a 2" 38 special with RNL. The smallest 380 I own is a S&W Bodyguard. I shoot it about as well as J frame 38. Thing is that the small single column 9mms like the Shield, Taurus 709, Glock 43, and others are really about the same size as a "full size" 380. Peel has no issues shooting my Taurus 709 and in fact shot her best group of the day with it. I suggested the Shield to her as it is the just about the same size and weight. If someone is looking for a SD gun and can handle a smaller 9x19 I'm not going to suggest a 380. It can work but a 9x19 is better and cheaper to shoot.

It needed to start somewhere. We'll see. I don't see Nappen doing anything unless someone is paying him. Howard, keep in mind if the state is required to buy magazines over 10 rds, from where is that money coming? That would mean raising taxes to pay for it. After all the magazines are paid for do you think that tax raise will go away? They will find something else to spend it on.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/29/judge-blocks-californias-high-capacity-magazine-ban.html A Federal judge in San Diego ruled 10 rd magazine law in California that was supposed to go into effect tomorrow just turned gun owners into criminals and violated the 2A. The judge went on to say the law required gun owners to dispose of property (magazines) they legally acquired. California will no doubt appeal this. No effect on NJ yet but this gets the ball rolling on this issue in Federal courts. Like Yogi said, "It ain't over til it's over".

I've been a 380 fan since the 70s. While it can be an effective round Mrs Peel's best group of the day was with a subcompact 9mm Parabellum the size of many 380s. She did well shooting 357 magnum in a K frame size gun so she is not recoil sensitive. i'm not a fan of the 9mm Makarov. Any gains from the 380 are slight. Don't get me wrong. There are times I feel adeqautely armed with a 380. I carried one as a primary duty gun and still do to this day at times. The fact is you are better off with a 38 special than a 380.

Understanable. Eliminates error.

No. Because the dealer has to tell the number and type of firearms went he submits the NICS. Before it was done on line I've heard the FFL say "1 rifle", "1 handgun", etc on the phone when he was calling in the NICS.

NY, SC,Fl, and GA adopted the 45 GAP that I know of. GA went to G17s. I don't know about the others.

I don't need to do that. I've been around long enough to form my own opinions. IMO if you want the utmost reliability get a 9mm Glock. That opinion is not formed from what Joe at the gun shop told me or comments from Mike and Charlie at the range. That's from overseeing a couple of hundred 17s, 19s, and 26s for over 10 years. Had exactly one part break (that was from putting the gun together incorrectly) and can count total malfunctions on my fingers. Most of those were ammo related. I've got a Taurus 357 that's worked fine for nearly 30 years. That's supposed to be a POS according to many. Ask the NJSP what they think of SIGs after they got jerked around by SIG trying to fix their guns. That's why they went to Glocks. My Ruger P90 I've had for about 25 years was half the price of a SIG 220 at the time. It does and continues to do everything a 220 does. Not being critical of you. At least you're speaking of your experience. My Bersa works, yours didn't. I went through the same thing as you did with a Walther. They couldn't make it run right and neither could I. I still own a few Walthers but I have always found them ammo sensitive.

The only thing I know about Bersa is from the two I have. One is an older SA kind of based on a Beretta Model 70 and a newer 380. They both work well and never gave me any problems. I would not feel unarmed or disadvantaged if I had to use one. Less expensive guns are not all junk as some seem to think. There are crappy SIGs, Walthers, Berettas, and S&Ws out there too. Like Infamous said, if it works and she's happy with it that's all that's required. Telling a new shooter their gun is a POS (Bersa isn't IMO) unless it really is very discouraging. Everyone doesn't need a SIG (which I don't particularly like). From what I've read Hi Points work well and they are no where near a Bersa in quality. I have a Raven for about 30 years with at least a few hundred rounds through it. Its not very accurate past about 15 feet Now that's more than a few steps below a Bersa in quality. Mine works and I would rather have it than a stick to defend myself. Everyone doesn't need an $800 SD gun.

No argument from me Ray on that. However, if you're into bullseye shooting there's 3 stages 22, centerfire, and 45. Many use a 45 to shoot centerfire and 45.

I don't try to steer people into what I like. I let them decide what they like. What's best for me isn't necessarily best for you. However, I do think people make some stupid decisions in selecting firearms I have large hands but short fingers. I need to wrap my hand around the grip "too much" in order to reach the trigger. For most of my life I've been told what I'm going to carry, either a specific gun or from a list of approved guns. As a result I've learned to adapt easy to most firearms. I have my likes and dislikes.

IIRC, they do put the expiration date on the permit when they renew it. Why not on issuance your guess is as good as mine.