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No one in this thread have been referring to Aitken as "scum". Stupid yes but not scum. I never referred to him as scum. Let's get that out of the way first. Reading his book and meeting him means you got his side of the story. I only have read news accounts of him and some of his whining. I find it interesting that you say he say only stepped over from white into the upper half of the grey scale. Most of Aitken's supporters will say to hang a LEO who puts a toe into the grey area. The same people who demand police use dash cams and body recorders wonder why cops don't "give someone a break". "Millenial" sure fits Aitken from what I've seen. He does stupid things and wonders why he is in trobule. It's all someone else's fault not mine. He was offered a plea but refused because he felt he was still right. I don't know what his attorney actually advised him to do regarding the plea. Only he and the attorney know for sure. I will hazard a guess that there are hundreds if not thousands of cases of illegal transportation of hollow points every day. Why don't you see any arrests? These people don't do anything stupid that's why. Aitken shouldn't be held to the same standard? Please don't spread any fake news. There is enough of that in the MSM. Morley, the judge in Aitken's case was not DISBARRED. He wasn't reappointed. The only people I see saying this was because of Aitken's case are his supporters. Might it have influenced the judge's reappointment? Maybe. Some of the reasons I saw in relation to Christie not reappointing him involved a beastiality case and a case of underage sex. Morley dismissed 4 counts of animal cruelty as he didn't think what the defendant did fit the statutes at that time. The pervert still faced trial for more than 40 other counts. Many here complain about prosecutors overcharging. The other case involved a 45 yr old teacher's aide having sex with a 16 year old student. Morley had commented he didn't see the 45 yr old woman as a sexual predator. He still gave her 5 years. Let's discuss what Morley actually did. According to what I've read he refused to allow evidence Aitken was moving and instruct the jury regarding the moving exemption. That was inappropriate if that was Aitken's defense. I'm still not aware what Aitken's evidence was in this matter. That's how Aitken beat the possession charge on his appeal. Not that he actually had proof he was moving. He beat the magazine charge because they weren't tested for function not because he didn't have them. BTW, Morley is on the faculty of Rutgers now. No way DISBARRED. With all that said I do think what Aitken did shouldn't be illegal anywhere. But it is in NJ. There are cases that warrant support IMO. Aitken's was not one of them.

I remember the NJ AG saying something about "in person" or "face to face". It would seem the CMP's requirement to send a copy of your NJFID would suffice to meet the requirement of "exhibit". I can understand CMP's reluctance to argue this and keep off Clinton's radar.

I can't agree with defending scum but I will agree he's not scum.

Going to the range to "blow off steam" doesn't sound like a responsible activity. Engaging in any activity with an element of danger doesn't sound smart to me. I agree that the judge was wrong in instructing the jury. There were several stupid things Aitken did and inconsistencies in his story. His book is only his version of what happened. Aitken has turned his "fame" into a money maker for himself. People contributed $40,000 to get his book published and fight his custody battle.

Not Brian Aiken again! I'll start by saying what he got arrested for shouldn't be illegal. He is only a poster boy for stupidity IMO starting with saying something to his mother that worried her so much she called the police. If he hadn't done that most likely nothing would have happened to him.

Pretty much covered long guns here. The only issue is unloaded or loaded. IANAL, but carrying loaded on private property is at the discretion of the owner. If Charlie Karkenfarker let's me carry a long gun on loaded on his property it sounds like Charlie's business not the state's. You can transport your long guns unloaded anywhere in the state with a NJFID. As far as a handgun, does your father keep anything in your half of the warehouse? Even if he does to a limited extent it sounds like half of the warehouse is "possessed" by you. You don't have to own it, you don't need a rental agreement or lease. It's "possessed" by you. Sounds to me like you can take a handgun there and transport it back and forth to your residence. Keep in mind if you consult an attorney, the attorney will be conservative in his or her opinion. That's doing their job. You need to read the law and do what you feel comfortable with doing.

Fine revolver. I got one in 1987 and still running strong with never any issues. I never cared for alloy small frame revolvers. My daughter has it now.

Google "NJAG guidelines on reasonable deviation". Picking up and discharging passengers is specifically listed as a reasonable deviation (as are others). It also covers things like stopping to eat, get gas, use the bathroom, and other things too many think they can be arrested for in NJ. Read the entire memo. It also instructs police to not make an arrest or sign a complaint without consulting a prosecutor if they are trying to make a case on reasonable deviation. The memo would cover a situation where you live in Union Co, go pick up your friend in Sussex Co, shoot a match in Ocean County, bring your friend home and then go home yourself. Of course in this example you might, as Ricky Ricardo used to say, have some "splaining" to do. I've said before and I'll say it again. In 50 years of shooting (most in NJ) I have heard of anyone being charged with illegal possession going or coming from a range. Shooters in NJ have performed all the reasonable deviations for years with no issues.

It remains to be seen. IIRC, there's a SCOTUS decision in the early 90s that says you can't charge more for a parade permit for the Neo-Nazis than you do for the sunday school class that's having a Halloween parade around the block. You can't charge more it you think the group applying has radical ideas that are going to cost more in police presence. The cost of a permit never reflects what a municipality lays out for police and traffic control. The last I looked NYC charges $45 for a parade permit. Even if they make every organization marching in the St Patrick's Day parade pay that fee it doesn't come near reimbursing the city. I think you'd find parade permit fees in everywhere in NJ. So in effect you do have to pay to exercise your 1A rights in the state. Lots of places you are not allowed to exercise your 1A rights. Try getting a parade permit to have a parade on the GSP, NJTP, or ACE. Don't get me wrong I'm not supporting this or any of Murphy's ideas. It's just an attempt to pass a new tax under the guise of "gun safety". Just a way for the Democrats get more money to promote their total agenda.

Same as poll tax? Maybe...maybe not. Municipalities charge fees for a parade permit. No one's ever got anywhere contesting that AFAIK. That's a 1A right you have to pay to exercise.

Don't count on that saving you. The easiest plan would be for tax would be for the tax to be collected by FFLS at time of transfer.

I remember when I was a kid they uses to tell you to smoke a piece of glass and use that to look through. The only thing that saved a lot of eyeballs is the rarity of solar eclipses.

This is correct. Thing is if you ship a handgun FedEx or UPS they make you ship it overnight. Usually cheaper to take a handgun to a FFL as he can charge you a transfer fee and ship it priority mail for a lot less.

I was in Philly. That's the view I got with the naked eye.

A receiver is a firearm. It can't be shipped to you directly.

IIRC, when this went on the COO of CMP gave this explanation gave this explanation on the CMP Forum. The NJAG said NJ law says all firearms transfers have to be face to face. Sending your rifle to your front door circumvented this. I'm sure being a Federal entity CMP could have fought this and won. I'm sure some carbines got sent to NJ. The NJ AG could ask for the buyers but had no way to get that info if CMP didn't want to volunteer it.

IIRC, SCOTUS has already ruled some restrictive state firearms laws are constitutional. That's SCOTUS enforcing the 10A. They could change that of course as they did the separate but equal ruling with schools and other things. A Constitutional Amendment is not adopted to enforce another Constitutional Amendment. It's the role of SCOTUS to determine what is constitutional and what's not. The procedure to adopt a new Amendment is complicated and expensive. The easiest way for the Federal government to circumvent the 10A is to put a requirement on funding. They did that with the 55 mph speed limit, 21 year old drinking, .08 DWI, and a lot of other things.

A sergeant I worked with joined the Navy at the tail end of WW2. His first ship after basic was the Indianapolis when it was making its trip to Tinian to deliver the bombs. He served in the Navy for a couple of years after the war. He was recalled for Korea.

That's one of the deviations listed as permissible in the AG's opinion.

Also state. That's why CMP can't send your Garand to your door anymore.

That would be an interesting situation in NJ. IIRC you need to give a street address to get a FID and driver's license. I could be wrong on that. You may have moved (you and your van) from another state with the firearm. I knew of some people who lived in vans (VW Microbuses the choice in the 60s and 70s) but none of them owned firearms. Surfboards and guitars yes but no guns.

Judge Judy is entertainment. One of the judge shows I like but it's entertainment. A hearing, only before a judge, requires the judge to decide matters of fact and law. The judge only decides on matters of law in a trial with a jury. The jury decides fact and if that fact indicates you broke the law as far as they are concerned find you guilty. The only way just about any firearms violation in NJ is going to put you just before a judge is: 1. You requested a hearing instead of a trial. This can be a smart move in some criminal cases. 2. You've pled guilty or guilty to a lesser offense. To do either of #2 you have to admit to the judge you've committed all the elements of a crime.

You don't need a residence or home to transport your handgun out of state. You're covered under FOPA as long as your possession of the gun is legal where you start and legal where you arrive. You need to follow FOPA transportation rules which are a little more restrictive than NJ.

Residence is likely defined as place you sleep, eat, keep personal belongings, etc on a regular basis. It doesn't have to be certain days or a certain amount of time spent there a year. If you did all these things at a hotel it would probably qualify. The difference with a hotel is you're just there for a certain perid of time. You don't leave personal belongings there when you check out. IMO, hotels don't qualify as a residence for virtually everyone under NJ firearms law.

Great story to go with the gun.