GRIZ

I agree.

The big issue with forming groups is someone has to be in charge. How do you pick your leader? Given time leaders will be acknowledged but you really need one from the start.

No pardon necessary. Case should be dismissed and Essex Prosecutors Office should offer her a decent settlement in lieu of a civil suit for false arrest. Most of these cases deal with somebody doing something stupid like Aitken or Allen. Usually I reserve judgement on such cases until I hear the rest of the story. Here the problem was the ECPO. TSA had nothing to do with it and the police were most likely following protocol laid out to them by the ECPO. This should be dismissed, expunged immediately, and she should be able to start a nice college fund for her kid. She was in total compliance with federal and state law.

You may wind up going to Canada instead. Already have everything gassed.

Guess I've been lucky. USPS,Fedx, or UPS always put mine in a bag. I've had ammo all kinds of wet from rice paddy to going through the washer. All worked. Factory ammo is pretty waterproof even without sealant.

Oregano is oregano, Marijuana is not. Seems a lot of people are concerned about cops finding their dope. I guess you think most cops are too stupid to know the difference. Even if that were true the lab report would come back well before a trial and the case would be dismissed. Afraid of your boss finding out? Do you have a job that requires you to be drug free? In that case you value your buzz more than your job? You should have gotten a job in the construction trades. Your union will only suspend you from certain jobs not all. You fly airplanes or are a train engineer? I don't want you doing that and using drugs. What Shaneen did only shows you don't have to meet a certain intelligence level to get a carry permit. Not saying it shouldn't have been okay but if you want to stay out of jail don't break the law.

It might be depending on other circumstances. PC is developed from the totality of the circumstances not a checklist. Uh...that is the prosecutor's job. The program prosecutor is there to get you found guilty, plea you down to a lesser offense, or...OMG...a check in the system...the case dismissed because the evidence doesn't support any violation.

I should have added that a cop who makes bum arrests will soon change his ways or lose his job. If there is no PC there won't be an arrest. What are you getting arrested for that destroys your reputation? Also your reputation as what? The cop still needs PC to arrest you. You seem to have issues understanding that. The fact tbe judge is in the system is a safeguard. Maybe you would like the cop to arrest, find you guilty and sentence you?

You are correct. The example I gave would fit more in exigent circumstances. BLF is 100% correct. When I worked for a Federal agency I worked in at least a dozen different states with state and local LEOs. I can't think of any state that had more restrictions than NJ.

If it is a gen 2 I don't think you really need to do anything to it.

Generally no. The shoulder of the roadway is no place to discuss PC. You may think it's not probable cause when it is. Remember the police will have to articulate the PC and contrary to what many think it's very hard to make it up. There are plenty of criminals out there, there is no need to make it up. Any cops who do will have a record of bum arrests when those cases get thrown out. Look at this another way. If someone abduct a child and a cop sees vehicle,description, etc shouldn't they be able to stop it? Or would you prefer the police let it go because they don't have a warrant. Not trying to play "it's for the children" but warrantless vehicle searches have been recognized for 90 years. Some states put additional restrictions.

I'd vote bolt for what you state are your uses. Plenty of nice ones out there at a variety of prices, Ruger, Savage, Mossberg, etc.

You are pretty much correct in your assessment. You're throwing something else in the mix Vlad. Let's say car leaving scene of an armed robbery was a red mini van, license plate 123??? (last part unknown), left tail light out, heavy tint windows, occupied by 2 males. You have enough PC to get a search warrant. You stop the van. While searching for evidence of robbery (gun, ski mask, money, etc) you find a body. This would fall under plain view as: 1. The police were legally where they were, searching the van for evidence of an armed robbery. They had sufficient PC to get a warrant. 2. The discovery of the body was incidental to the search for evidence of the armed robbery. This would be the same as if the police had a search warrant for stolen tubas. While executing that warrant they found a pallet of cocaine. That would be admissible for the same reasons.

The 4th Amendment has not been suspended. Feds have always done warrantless searches in NJ. NJ law does not apply if the case is in Federal court. Different system different rules. Carroll Doctrine e searches are only one exception permitting warrantless searches. This decision is going back what was considered common practice in the 70s as I stated above.

Stating you have guns in your car on the way to the range doesn't constitute PC your guns are not compliant to NJ law AFAIC. The judge would decide if the police had PC.

BTW, being stopped for a MV violation doesn't create probable cause for a vehicle search.

Actually going back to it Vlad. When I was on a police department back in the 70s warrantless searches of cars were done all the time. The requirement a lot of people forget about is the police have to have probable cause. Not some bs reason but articuable PC. The police have to have enough PC to be able to get a warrant. More restrictions were put on police in NJ over the years and now we are back to the way it was 40 years ago. The concept of warrantless vehicle searches is referred to as the Carroll Doctrine resulting from a SCOTUS decision in 1925 so it's not a new concept. Feds have used it since then and many states follow it too.

We were talking short barrel with flash surpressor. You introduced short barrel with noise surpressor. A Mk 18 Model 0 is not a XM177 or CAR 15 which I've discussed. If you use one in daylight without the noise surpressor the flash won't bother you. I haven't been proven wrong, you're just looking to make yourself the authority. Bringing a short barreled weapon designed to be used with a noise surpressor into a thread about one with a flash surpressor is introducing another argument. If you want to continue this discussion start a new thread.

Different weapon. The Mk 18 Model 0 was specifically designed to be used with a surpressor (noise) rather than a long surpressor (flash). The short flash surpressor won't do much supressing flash with the short barrel. It will no doubt emit a good sized fireball when shot in dim light. Not so much with the surpressor (noise) in place. I doubt you will see many SEALs using a Mk 18 Model 0 in dim light or at night without the surpressor (noise). The Mk 18 Model 0 was designed to minimize length. Ive fired short (10-11in) M16s with the same mod as the Mk 18 Model 0 maybe 20 years ago. They worked well with the noise surpressor fitted but the fireball without it was huge. Short barrel 5.56s with effective flash surpressor and short barrel 5.56s with noise surpressor are two very different things.

That was in the 60s and 70s over 40 years ago.

Yes my friend you didn't say that was the before photo.

The military built the XM177, CAR 15 and other versions with 10-11" barrels. They found they needed long surpressor to deal with the flash from the short barrel. Eventually they realized add a few inches to the barrel and take a few from the surpressor and you have a more effective package in the same size. The fact that none of these short barreled M16S are in the inventory today speaks for their value. On the other hand if this is what floats your boat go ahead.

Shortening the barrel that much serious cuts into the velocity. I'd consider more barrel and less flash surpressor. You could still keep it just over 16".

You would be covered taking the gun through NY under FOPA as long as you follow the rules.

7.62x54r was loaded by the big American companies and Norma back in the 70s. It sounds like the stuff your father found was some surplus stuff.