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If she learns how to master a DA revolver everything else is easy.

I agree. Jerrys for a CMO dog and Tommys for an Italian Hot Dog or sausage.

A Glock 19 is just as easy to shoot as a 17 and you aren't restricted to 10 rd mags or spending extra for blocked 17 rd mags.

Agreed! Best OTC chili dog at Jerry's on Elizabeth Avenue in Elizabeth by the cannon. I've been eating them for over 50 years. Must get chili, mustard and onions. Chili recipe has not changed. Not a spicy chili as if you get too spicy it kills the taste of everthing else.

Everyone needs a Model 10.

His gun is illegal in NJ no way around it.

We're not talking a survival rifle here. If you're talking survival gear and a combat rifle the best way to accommodate that is putting together on a vest or web gear what the SAS calls "belt kit". Your belt kit has ammo, canteens, and all your basic survival gear and oure wearing it most of the time. If you have to unass an area fast you take your rifle and belt kit. I know the purposes of an open metal handguard and have one on one of my ARs. However, its thick enough and not so open that the heat makes it to my hand. If you use one that's thin enough and open enough to make the heat unbearable its not functioning as a "handgun". If you put it on to aid in cooling the barrel and then wrap it in paracord you're defeating the purpose ou put it on to begin with.

To me it all seems like taking something that's mostly there for looks (the open metal handguards) and adding something (paracord) to defeat the purpose you put the first thing on. The open handguards for better cooling and now wrap with paracord which will inhibit cooling and make it not as efficient as std handguards. To me its like pinning a stock. You might as well use a std fixed stock but the pinned stock has more of a cool factor. I've fired thousands of rounds through M16s, M4s, and ARs in training and in combat. A lot of those rounds were fired full auto. Never had any problem with heat coming through the standard handguards. That's my take.

Unless you're enamored with the 40 S&W (I'm not) get the 26. You don't get much from +P or +P+ ammo in 9mm, maybe 10% more velocity in a round that's already doing 1100fps. A good standard velocity round will do just as well.

So you're saying you don't have a problem with the cops entering the house? But you do with them shooting the dogs and cuffing the residents? We still don't have all the info why the police went to the house to begin with. My point is most people who are critical of police actions don't really have an complete answer to what the police should have done. FWIW, if you leave out the info that led the police to the house, I would have handled it differently. But that's the problem with dealing "what if" scenarios. One additional detail changes the total perspective on the situation. Leave out the dogs and if the police found a burglar hiding in the bed making believe he was the resident (I've seen that done) and this would have been good police work that probably wouldn't make the news.

Based on the fact the police found evidence of an unlawful entry what would you have done?

Marlin Camp Carbine. Out of production.

Before you start moving your sight make yourself a reference point so you know where you started from. Use a fine tip marker and draw a line from the sight to the top of the slide. It will wipe off during cleaning.

Vlad I quoted the article and commented on what it said. The whole truth will be known on this eventually.

Not odd. A lot of people don't know how things work. I've seen people petition the White House on that silly website for all kinds of things the POTUS has no authority to do like change state gun laws. You can start a petition there for anything. It doesn't have to be legal or make any sense. People do all kinds of stuff contacting politicians to do stuff they don't have the authority to do. What I'd like to see is an investigation to prosecute any of Kessler's goons who interfered with people entering the town hall (if they did do that) for civil rights violations.

No problem its a common misunderstanding. The Guard is federalized when it is deployed in combat overseas. The only requirement for the Guard to be federalized is for The POTUS to say so.

Just going by the article you posted. Seems most people want to get rid of Kessler.

I asked that in post #130 and am still waiting for a response. There is a difference between the SA and Kessler's thugs though. The SA were not armed.

from Shawn's link: "At the meeting, more than 100 of Kessler’s militia members showed up. The men, all carrying firearms, blocked the entrance to the Gilberton Town Hall and prevented residents from going inside." Way to go Kessler! The Constitution is all about you and the 2A. Use your militia the same way Hitler used the SA (Sturmabeitlung aka Brownshirts) before he came to power. Prevent those citizens from engaging in the democratic process with armed thugs. Is that Kessler's plan? The article goes on to say that those brave souls who managed to get past Kessler's stormtroopers didn't have anything good to say about Kessler. Kessler is getting to look more like a Nazi. No, read on. Law enforcement is a state function of the National Guard. The governor sending in the National Guard is not a violation of Posse Comitatus. Done all the time in natural disasters and riots. sending in federal troops would be a violation.

As has been said you can have a plain crowned barrel and no muzzle device whatsoever.

This is correct. A few months ago I searched and found only one case in the past 10 years where someone was charged with only Poss of Hollowpoints. That was a guy checking his gun in at Newark Airport IIRC. The only thing to be learned from the Aitken case is not to be stupid like him.

SEALs, Special Forces, and Delta. Different organizations, different missions (some overlap)

I would think you can ask her before you do anything else. She couldn't hear your case as that would be a conflict of interest.

Need to hear "the rest of the story".

Rule of thumb is pattern size with no choke is an inch per yard as Parker noted. There are other factors that influence the spread of the pattern as discussed previously but at the short ranges involved in SD shooting the pattern size is governed by the choke. Contrary to what some think, the length of the barrel has no (significant) effect on the size of the pattern. An 18" barrel will pattern the same as a 28" barrel with the same choke at any given distance everything else being equal. limited penetration is a concern when using birdshot for SD. Muscle and bone can limit penetration. I had an attempted suicide call once where the guy had a shotgun with the trigger tied to a string and he wound up shooting himself in the shoulder. The #6 shot he used was stopped as soon as it hit bone. Shot that didn't hit bone only penetrated about 3" in muscle. This was with a contact wound. He was almost successful with his suicide as he had taken out about 2" of his brachial artery and when we arrived we could take his pulse from the blood spurting from the wound. We got him to the hospital fast enough and he survived. One consideration many overlook in using birdshot for SD is ricochet. Birdshot will ricochet off many things in your home; appliances, glass, even wood. A bad guy tried to shoot the LEOs serving a warrant with a shotgun loaded with birdshot...through a steel door. Not sure of what angle or how he was holding the gun but he caught enough of the shot to put the fight out of him. He wasn't seriously hurt. Kind of rough to have to admit you shot yourself. Birdshot can work for SD but there are a lot of considerations.