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Many state and local agencies restrict issue guns and ammo out of state. They want to keep out of any liability issues resulting from the use of either while the officer is carrying under LEOSA out of state.

vlad I understood what you were saying but others might think its the same thing.

There is no gray area and what vlad says is 100% correct but I'll expand on it a bit. The stock for the 96 and the mech/tech conversion are not the same thing. Put the stockon the 96 and you have a SBR, the mech/tech has a rifle legal (16" or more) barrel. IIRC Federal law allows you to use a repro stock on a pistol that originally was available with one. When ATF gave their opinion on this there was a lot of business done for parts required to get pistols to accept a stock. Got a 96, Luger, Browning Hi-Power, 1911, etc from the time period they were available with stocks? Go ahead you're legal under Federal law. Got a modern 1911 and you get hold of a main spring housing slotted for a stock? No deal, go directly to jail for possession of a NFA weapon. You can't mix Federal and State law . Many states follow the Federal law and class firearms before 1898 as antiques. NJ is not one of them. Fire a projectile by expansion of a gas? Firearm in NJ no matter when it was made. You want that Hotchkiss gun and you live in one of these states no problem. But not in NJ.

No requirement to notify if you are transporting the guns legally in your vehicle, if you have any kind of carry permit, or you're a LEO carrying off duty or under LEOSA. May be a good idea if you were carrying on your person even though not required. If LEO asks you if you are transporting in vehicle you can answer truthfully or plead the 5th Amendment but lying to him is a crime (18USC1001 under Federal law). How does an "inspection" escalate to him looking in your trunk.

Under Federal law I believe a repro stock is legal. All a moot point as it would be illegal under NJ law.

Special K could you please post a reference to the law in CO that says you must get involved if carrying? Not trying to sharpshoot you just would like to see a reference. You said you conceal carry in CO. How do you do this legally? According to CBI, CO only recognizes permits issued to residents of the state issuing the permit. In other words no non-resident permits. honored. CO also doesn't seem to offer a non-resident permits. http://cbi.state.co.us/

Thanx bulpup I knew 10% wasn't far off.

Read the FBI "Law Enforcement Officers Killed" summaries and draw you own conclusions. I didn't sit with a calculator and come up with the 10%. It may have been 5% one year, 15% the next, etc

About 5-7 LEOs a year get killed by their own sidearm. It usually works out to about 10%. Small percentage sure but sucks to be one of them. I don't know how many get their gun snatched. It used to be more common before retention training and holsters became commonplace. If you look at photos of NYPD in the 60s and 70s when they wore that swivel holster with the cilp that held the trigger guard you'll see many guys wearing their gun so it lays on their right (or left) thigh.

Keep in mind the Bill of Rights was something the states wanted to protect the citizens of the state from the Federal government.

Feds routinely turn over prosecutions to state and local agencies. For example many smaller drug seizures in Customs are TOT state and local agencies. The US Attorney's Office only has so many AUSAs and they are usually a small dunk for the local agency helping their stats. I can't see this gun being prosecuted Federally for the one shotgun. If he had a trunk full of full auto weapons that would maybe be another story. The fact is if there's a crime that's in violation of State and Federal law the defendant could be tried in both systems and punished in both systems. This is not double jepardy as they are different systems. BlueLinefish is correct. If you look at stats many arrests for criminal violations. Virtually anyone can't drive 5 minutes or so without doing something that would be a valid reason for a stop.

Too many unanswered questions to pass judgement on this.

exfed, no where in my response do I claim to know what you did. You related your experiences and opinions regarding the issue with Federal agencies you are familiar with and I related mine. You even state that your friend who was head of FIU stated "the question of whether a PP was needed was up in the air". You take the stance that a permit is required in these transactions and I think its not and we both state why. We can agree to disagree but I never claimed to "know what you did' and related what transpired at agencies where I worked and those I am familiar with.

Do you have two residences? you say you live in NJ "most of the time". How many days a year do you stay at your parents house? Is irt actually a residence or just a place you stay? Do you have an interest in the property where your parents live? Part owner? It seems to me you are a NJ resident who needs to get his DL changed and forget about a NY permit or taking handguns to NY.

A Federal LEO can also buy a handgun out of state for official use. Once again has to be authorized and agency letter required.

First question is it a low serial number (below 800,000) that would make it unsafe to fire? I have seen people say that's all BS and the problems were bad brass but bas brass ain't goin' to blow up a rifle. All I can add is expect to pay about $350-400 for a stock and a barrel. Then there's the cost of fitting. I believe criterion makes a barrel for the 03. You can try Bill Ricca (Google him he's in PA and a M1 and 03 expert) who can dircet you to parts and a genuine 03 riflesmith.

I own several Colts and have fired many over the years. They are nice guns but its harder to find someone who knows how to work on them and I don't feel they are worth the insane prices people ask. The Python is hailed as the ned of all ends but out of 5 new ones I've seen and shot one needed to go back to the factory to be operational. That's a 20% failure rate I've never seen in any other type of handgun. A fluke? Probably, but it did happen. You'd expect zero problems with a new gun with all the handfitting of parts. If you want one get one but AFAIC its more of a prestige thing.

Sorry I missed your post before I posted mine but Feds can still acquire guns from the manufacturer. I don't know why you had the manufacturer fill out P2Ps for you. If you are ordering guns to use in conjunction with your official duties and they are delivered to your office, state law has no impact whatsoever. Any "official acts" by a Federal agency or LEO done in conjunction with official duties are not subject to any state or local law. In actual practice I've seen it applied differently. Some agencies won't do it all, some agencies will do something uncalled for (like require you to get P2P, some agencies differ from office to office, and some agencies not only allow it they have it written into their firearms policies. Before anyone gets cranky about Feds getting all these guns at a discount, they have to be used for official duties (like you can't buy a Glock 34 unless it is authorized by your agency) and you can't get away with buying 5 or 6 a year.

This is the result of the separation of federal and state authority. You get your TS/SCI from the the federal government. Once you get your clearance you should report any arrests or things of that nature to your supervisor but if you don't you probably won't get caught until your next periodic review. Federal law allows any LEO to purchase directly from a manufacturer or FFL anywhere as long as the order is accompanied with the proper paperwork. Whether other than Federal LEOs can do so or not is dependent on the state law and NJ is a no. The Federal agency is not required to comply with any laws, Complying with state laws is the responsibility of the retired LEO. You are correctas far as NY goes. Before I retired I had to hold the personal guns of guys retiring in NY and deliver them to the police station or precinct where ther lived.

I would think that you should first pursue at least an associates degree in business. Your business knowledge is going be just as and maybe more important than your gunsmithing skills. I would then pursue attending on of the well known schools like in CO or PA as a resident. Then I would think it best to work for an established gunsmith as he will probably teach you more about it than the school did. Most schools of any kind teach you the basics to get you started in something and you really learn on the job. If you go into your own business you'll need a business plan before you start, captial (lathes, milling machines etc cost money), insurance, government licenses, etc etc. This is where your business education will be important. I googled one source that gave me an average salary of 36K a year for a gunsmith and a range of 28-43K. Many gunsmiths make less so unless you develope some special niche you are never going to get rich at this. You may have to relocate which to get a job in the field or open a business so you need to keep that in mind. there are things you can learn by correspondence. I don't think gunsmithing is one of them unless you have the machine shop skills already.

I have the 9mm carbine. They are ugly but mine is utterly reliable (with factory magazines) clean or dirty and reasonably accurate (about 5" group at 100 yds with just about any 9mm ammo). I don't think it will survive abuse like a AR or AK without breaking something. I got mine for under $200 when they were that prce several years ago

I find it entertaining when I respond to someone's post, show them how they are disseminating or making a judgement on totally wrong information, and they have no other recourse but give me a negative. Not really concerned about this though as people can see who gave me the negative.

"I realize my vagueness may have caused some confusion, but I hope it is clear now." Yes and Yes.

Generally I agree with you but I will use a boresnake after shooting any kind of ammo to clean out the big chunks and follow with brush and patches. Periodically, and always after using it to clean a gun that has shot corrosive ammo, I give my boresnake a good wash in soap and water. No sense in trying to get something dirty (a used boresnake) to clean with.

You forgot to add "Those with badges and guns." doesn't sound like anything but cops to me. Lawmakers and politicians are not issued badges. There are some government officials who are issued badges but no guns. You even left out the common criminal who breaks many laws. many with guns but you only mention "badges and guns".