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Contrary to what a lot say, my daughter, no tickets no duis, pays more for her 15 year old Jeep than I pay for 2 cars. It's not the panacea many profess. @Handyman no personal cultivation!!! I'm sure Murphy will let you grow your own as long as the state collects the $42 an ounce tax.

I know of retired LEOs who were licensed and working as private investigators who were denied carry permits before the existence of the Retired Police Officer permit. Judge felt the type of work they were doing didn't provide a need for them to have a carry permit. Before the RPO permit being a retired LEO didn't automatically get you a carry permit in NJ. It does in some states like NY. LEOSA (HR218) has nothing to do with state carry permits. The NJ AG is the one who says if you are a retired LEO living in NJ you need the state RPO permit. The RPO permit in NJ came out in 1997. LEOSA came out in 2004. IANAL but I find it comical the NJ AG feels he can pick and choose what parts of a Federal law he wants to recognize. He recognizes carry under LEOSA for retired LEOs that aren't NJ residents but not those who live in NJ? That sounds like a 14A violation right there. The few test cases I've seen with had to do mostly with the issue if the person carrying fit the LEOSA definition of being a LEO. IIRC there was an active duty Coastie arrested carrying on Long Island who beat the rap because his job fit the LEOSA definition of LEO.

I have a Cimarron Mason-Richards conversion with a brass grip frame, case hardened frame and blued cyonder and barrel that looks nice.

You are correct. No hollow points according to the NJ AG. LEOSA says retired LE can. Keep in mind LEOSA starts out using the term, "Notwithstanding any other provision of the law of any State...". "Notwithstanding" legally means unless we say it applies. The only application LEOSA mentions of state law is the state's ability to restrict carry in state owned buildings and on state owned land.

That's what the NJ AG says. While state law may be more restrictive than Federal law IMO what the NJ AG has said is contrary to LEOSA. RPO permit is yearly and costs $50. They have to qualify twice a year.

I've both from them too. No issues.

You can survive any hot weather if you have water. You could live without airconditioning. If you live where it's cold you can put on a lot of clothes and still be cold. You have to have heat.

Recoil would be similar to 45 Long Colt.

You could also just use a 16" or longer barrel with nothing on the end. Might cost more but you're going to save money not buying a comp.

Do you feel the same way about shooting an AR? Don't get all philosophical about shooting any gun. I guarantee any soldier or marine that was attempting a difficult shot with any rifle used whatever they could for an advantage. They would have used a bench if one was available.

Imposed by "Anything to Make a Buck Murphy"!!!

There is no fee listed for them. Never has been. They are optional though at discretion of the issuing authority. I don't know anywhere they won't extend a permit but there may be one.

You really don't know what they enter into the computer when you present the gun at the desk at FEDEX. Firearm may be only one block they check on the computer. When I've shipped a firearm at FEDEX they've always walked it to the back. Security cage? That's what I've been told. There were people shipping bigger more valuable packages when I was there. The only experience I've had with FEDEX losing a gun was when I was still working and shipping a box of handguns to our centralized armory. Box arrived broken and one gun was missing. Most likely box broke, gun fell out and was stolen. Got check for full declared value from FEDEX in less than 2 weeks. No questions asked. I shipped and received probably a couple thousand guns when I was working. That was the only one that was lost.

@Scorpio64 you'll shrink those groups a little shooting from a bench. Shooting from a bench you get to see how good your rifle really shoots. The Army uses the foxhole position for the same effect. I know some don't think much of bench shooting but it's how you see how your rifle and ammo perform by eliminating as many variations as possible. If you're reloading for serious competition you need to tailor the load for the rifle you're using. That makes sense. I don't seriously compete now and work up a load in one rifle and it works pretty good in others I have in the same caliber. I know guys that have 5 different loads in a caliber for their 5 different rifles. That's not me. FWIW M2 Ball specs are 2700 fps, my reloads are 2800 fps and HXP 2900 fps in my rifle through a chronograph. You can chase the accuracy thing a lot of ways. Modifications to the rifle. Experimenting with different powders, bullets, loads. It all boils down to what level of accuracy makes you happy. I'm happy with a Garand that shoots 2" with service ammo.

3 MOA is pretty good with PPU ammo. I've never shot PPU 30-06 but in other calibers their ammo is not particularly accurate IMO. My Garands (all stock no accurizing) will shoot that or a little better with Greek HXP or my reloads. The field grade I have with a Danish VAR barrel will consistently shoot 2 MOA with HXP. Better ammo will reduce the size of your groups but not by that much. IIRC I read somewhere that 4 MOA was acceptable in a Garand. Try some different ammo. Remember the M1 was intended to be a precision rifle. It was intended to sling quantities of lead faster than a bolt action and it does that well. There are a lot of things you can do to accurizing a Garand but you'd have to spend a lot of money get a M1 shooting 3 MOA down to 1 1/2 MOA. A lot of those things aren't permitted in Service Rifle competition.

IIRC shippers give firearms additional security handling like high value items. When accepted they go to a security cage until loaded on a truck.

UPS and FedEx seem to have no issue with FFL to FFL ground shipping just non-FFL to FFL or factory or to yourself.

Murphy could have saved $1.6 million by not giving illegal aliens tuition assistance.

There's already a database for everything you've bought on a P2P going back for at least 45 years.

IIRC the instructions on line said you needed to go and pay the PD before it was processed. I talked to the lady in records earlier and she told me I had to come in to sign the mental health form and pay for the permits. I got a confirmation email when I completed my on line form and another telling me both my references had responded. PD never sent me an email. All came from NJSP.

I was the 2nd person in my town to use the new system. Print out the confirmation and bring it with you. They asked for a copy when I showed up to pay for my permits and sign the mental health form. I don't know if they really needed it or just getting used to the system. I left the PD at 3.15 pm. One of my references had responded by 3.30 pm and the other by 4 pm. The criminal history check is no doubt pretty much automatic. The only things that can delay issuance of the permits is how long it takes for the mental health form to get back and how long the PD takes to do the permits once everything is done.

http://cjrpc.org/bullseye/NRA_2700.cfm At Central Jersey in Jackson. They also do USPSA, Steel, Bowling Pin and other matches. Check website at cjrpc.org

I have an Uberti that has held up well over 10 years or so and have had zero issues with it. It is a more accurate copy of the SAA as @bhunted has said. The Ruger would probably prove to be more rugged over the long haul. It depends on what you're looking for and of course price.

I worked in Baltimore in the 80s and it was much different then. It had it's bad parts but was pretty safe. It was the biggest blue collar city I've ever seen. Most of that was attributable to William Donald Schafer who was mayor at the time. He eventually became Governor of Maryland but I can't speak for that record. As mayor he was an old time Conservative Democrat, more conservative than many Republicans now. He had no tolerance for crime. He let the police do what they needed to do. He was innovative, fiscally conservative, and believed in abolishing the welfare state. I lived in Bel Air in Harford County which was pretty much crime free at the time. Now there are only 17% of the cities in the US that have worse crime rates. Now that was 35 years ago. I have a friend that grew up in Baltimore. She left there almost 20 years ago for a Federal job and did the multi-city and international tour of duty. She works out of Baltimore now but doesn't live there. That's because Baltimore is a sewer now.

@Mrs. Peel @Maksim just because antigun people are wrong doesn't mean they're stupid. Anytime I've encountered a point of contact for employment verification they have always asked "Why?". If you don't give them a direct answer they not only are reluctant to give you an answer it allows their imagination run wild. Telling them, "we run routine background checks as a service for all kinds of things" and trying to let it go at that is going to cause more issues for the applicant. The POC doing the verification is going to wonder how come they never got a call like that regarding another employee. Is they guy a pedophile, involved in kiddie porn, or some other illegal activity? Private industry, for the most part, is protective about employee information and will ask why. The POC for employment verification might discuss this with their boss. Some have suggested that the employee should be the one to inform their employer. So what does the employee say when the employer asks them why? None of your business why the police are asking why I work here? Now if that doesn't cause any issues what happens when they get to the questions? How long has the person worked there? Why are the police asking this? Now based on reference letters I've done the cat is out of the bag when the question, "do you know any reason the applicant should not own a firearm" is asked? People know the police don't routinely do background investigations on people. IMO the police telling the employer why they are asking is much less injurious to the employee. If anyone can give an example of how discrete yet believable the police should be I'm all ears. Someone suggested they confirm your employment through some database. There is no such database. The closest would be IRS or the State Division of Taxation. From my experience neither shares much information even with a LE agency when they are working a case jointly. The only way to easily verify employment is contacting the employer. The easiest way to deal with it with the least repercussions is for the police to tell the employer why the inquiry is being made. The employer and occupation question is on the application and other than it is a standard background investigation question I agree it shouldn't be there. I've bought a lot of guns from dealers and the Federal government is content without knowing my employer or occupation. The idea of providing references is pretty phony baloney too AFAIC. Is anyone going to provide a reference that's going to a questionable person or say bad things about them? @Mrs. Peel I can understand why your teacher friends are reluctant to posing for photos with guns. Different jobs have different rules. Some of them written and some not written. During my career in the Federal government I was forbidden by the Hatch Act to participate in partisian politics. However, your friends apparently have survived any employment verification inquiry.