GRIZ

Woman with a plan!

I didn't fall asleep during the State of the Union message and I was watching it at home by myself.

Yeah, but I think more clearly than her.

Nah, I'm older.

Well you have two. Ray Ray and Griz. I have Taurus revolvers spanning the period 1988-2014. I've carried all of them as a SD gun so I guess that speaks for what I think of reliability. I did buy a new one that had timing issues. A call to Taurus, sent to them with their free UPS label, and two weeks solved that. I've also seen dozens of Smiths that had issues from new. The only other issue I've had with a Taurus revolver is the rear sight mounting screw got loose (after 10 years and thousands of magnums) and the rear sight came off. I've seen this happen with Smiths too. I had to pay for the shipping (Taurus pays the shipping only for the first year) but got it back in two weeks. I have a Taurus PT99AF (adjustable sight version of the 92) I carried as a duty gun for 5 or 6 years. The rear sight leaf broke after 10 years or so. Keep in mind this can on all adjustable sight guns when they get banged around as a duty gun does. Once again, got it back in 2 weeks. Other than that they gun still runs fine with maybe 20,000 rounds through it. I lost a spring while cleaning a Taurus revolver. My fault not their's. A call to Taurus and they sent me one free a few days later. That's the extent of my Taurus problems. When you've seen maybe a few thousand guns go by you over the years you're going to find some problems with all of them. I've never seen any problems with a new Glock or Ruger. I've seen flame cutting issues on every Smith K frame 357 and most Colt 357s that have shot magnums regularly. I had a 1970s Smith Model 19 I bought new where it was so bad I got rid of the gun. That gun had less than 1000 magnums through it. I've never seen flame cutting on a Ruger or Taurus 357. Many condemn Taurus. I can't believe I'm the luckiest Taurus owner in the world. If Taurus was so bad they would have been out of business long ago. Taurus revolvers don't have as nice a triggers as Smiths or Rugers out of the box but they smooth out in use. I've never felt the need to get an action job or swap out springs. Just my experience.

I get the same on my phone. Hit refresh and the new page comes up.

Good point. When you use web gear, warbelt, load bearing equipment, chest rig, battle vest or whatever on a regular basis your needs will change.

The 4" is a better all around barrel length IMO. I have Colt, S&W, Ruger, and Taurus revolvers. I carry any of them as a SD gun. Colts are more collector guns. Hard to find some parts and hard to find people that know how to work on them. I've never had any issues with any of the Taurus guns I own, revolver or auto. The 669 I bought in 1988 has proven itself a much more durable gun than the "pinned and recessed" S&W Model 19 I bought in the 70s. If you're buying it for a "game gun" go ahead and get action jobs and swap springs. If you intend on using it for SD leave it stock. Triggers smooth out with use. Smooth is much more important than light. Build up your muscles to deal with the trigger. Dry fire it a few thousand times.

They have a sleepover program in Baltimore. You can sleep over on the Constellation (last sail only US Navy warship), the Taney (USCG Cutter that was at Pearl Harbor), or the Torsk (WW2 submarine).

Same thing.

One needs to understand the Russian/Soviet/Russian design philosophy to understand the Russian "fascination" with diesel/electric submarines. Russian/Soviet design philosophy haso always been "perfection is the enemy of good enough". I've seen the quote attributed to Voltaire and a few others. That includes a Marshal of the Soviet Union. It really doesn't matter who said it. The concept is important. How does it work? Well during the Battle of Stalingrad (which lasted about a year and a half) there was a factory that cranked out T34 tanks. They were not superior to German tanks in most respects. They got to the point they didn't even paint them as they rolled off the assembly line. They wouldn't last long enough in combat to rust. Throwing a number of tanks against the Germans they won. We adopted the same philosophy in WW2 to an extent. When we first encountered Tiger tanks it wasn't unusual for a platoon (4-5 tanks) of Tigers to take out a company (15 tanks) of M4 Shermans with no casualties. Once we learned how to engage the Tigers they started to lose. We could lose 5 or 6 Shermans to kill one Tiger. We could produce 10-15 M4s for each Tiger. We would win. Jump to the 80s. The Fulda Gap. The place the Soviets were expected to pour through. Yeah, the Soviets outnumbered us and more importantly outnumbered us in artillery. The biggest killer on the battlefield since the Napoleantic wars. We were mostly using self propelled artillery. More mobile which increased the survivabilty. The Warsaw Pact had SPs but had a lot more towed artillery. Reason? Much cheaper. They could have several towed artillery pieces for the cost of one SP. This philosophy goes for diesel electric submarines. One can build 4 or 5 diesel electric for the cost of one nuclear sub. Yes your enemy will kill 2 or 3 but you'll still have survivors. High tech is important but many times numbers win.

Finger holes in the fore end sound like an invitation to injury.

Some have talked about the Shockwave and using it for a trunk gun (legal if you have a FID) or using it to shoot trap at a WMA range. I would restrain from using one for either purpose until there is more clarification. Remember, NJ has said IT IS NOT A SHOTGUN. Carrying a long gun in a vehicle with a FID is legal. WMA ranges allow 22s, shotguns, and black powder AFAIK. The Shockwave legally in NJ is none of these. Whilst I am not known for being cautious I would exercise restraint and not screw up a good thing. JMO

I agree with this to a point. Install a stock and an 18" barrel and you made it a shotgun ( why would you want to do this?). I don't know about shortening the barrel as then it is not in the configuration ATF approved it. JMO

AFAIK the 1887 copies are made in China or Italy. Only shotguns can be imported from China. We can import handguns, shotguns, and rifles from Italy. I don't think the GCA68 has any provision for importing "firearms" like the Shockwave.

I was amazed at his knowledge of nucIear weapon authentication and capabilities of some intelligence assets. I read an interview with him. He was asked about his sources of what many knew to be highly classified information. He responded it was all obtained from overt sources. @Zeke is probably right.

I think the Air Force might call it a bathroom The followup is regardless of what happened in the latrine (Army) or head (Navy, Coast Guard, or Marines) these guys went on to there other training and ended up in Vietnam. You just went on to the next stage. No counseling, time for remorse, etc.

Never tried trap or skeet with one. Would be interesting. Just remember. Don't use one to hunt with. IT IS NOT A SHOTGUN!!!!

That would work for some. Better with Bob overalls. The suspenders transfer the recoil to your shoulders. I've seen them do it. Even after being told not to and why.

I used to have to qualify with the standard shotgun course at work to carry the short barrel pistol grip guns. That included 5 slugs at 25 yds. I'd keep them in a 5-6" group. Not stellar accuracy but nice to know it'll work. I agree that most SD confrontations will be well within 10 yds, probably 5.

@Shawnmoore81 you bring the gun to eye level but not close to your face. Watch the Clint Smith video.

Not if you want to hit anything 15-20 yards away.

Keep in mind that drift to the right is at range. It's usually not showing up at 200 yds or even longer. The correction for drift is important if you're a 1000 yd target shooter, uber top rated operator, or shooting artillery.

As long as the sights adjust to the zero you want it doesnt make a difference how many clicks you use. I have a rife I bought used with the rear sight visibly off to the right. There's enough adjustment to zero by adjusting the sight to the left. I'm happy with it. One other thing. Sometimes you will find your group say a half inch to the right. You dial in that click to the left. Now you're a half inch to the left on that M1/M14/M1A/AR with normal (target sights have finer adjustments). I leave the sights adjusted for that half inch strike to the left. Most rifling is right handed and will cause the bullet to drift to the right at range.

Yeah, they do suck for most tasks. I imagine you'll see a lot of bloody noses at the range. You have to know how to shoot these. I used to use a short barrel pistol grip shotgun similar to this. I used one if I needed something to use in tight spaces when I knew the range would be short.