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If you want to add a pistol grip go with an 870, the tang safety on a Mossberg is awkward with a pistol grip. The 870 safety will be at your fingertip. I prefer the tang safety and action bar release on a Mossberg.They are more user friendly for me. Both are great shotgus that will get the job done.

I like Win 231. It can cover a wide array of calibers with decent accuracy, and it works great in 38 spec and 45 acp, which are the two I loaded the most for. Started loading in 9 and 40 and I am very happy with the results.

I have not heard any bad reports on the HP Carbine. Everyone that I see with one loves them.

The class will most likely be in lakewood.

The Smith all the way. Classic blued steel just makes me all warm and fuzzy.

I have the 4 cell mag light to find my way in the dark.

Poor guy, his life is ruined for aomething as dumb as a BB gun. Sometimes the thought process just isn't there. That goes to show you just how little the public actually knows about NJ gun laws.

Sounds good, you can never go wrong with Doug Fir. My legs are not secured to the floor and it works fine for the primer seating. there is enough weight to hold it down. If you need that much pressure to seat a primer you have some issues and it is not the bench.

Just hold the shotgun sideways and you will be fine.

Yes we are and families can bicker and then come together to back each other up. Just takes some good old fashioned 2 way communication. As I finished in the last post, here is an olive branch, let's start.

You can pick up a smooth bore slug barrel pretty cheap or buy a rifled cantalever barrel. I would keep the vent rib barrel for birds and skeet. That's just me

You know I was done with this until the last bitter post. You will never win hearts and minds by backhaning those you wish to woo In NJCSD's post he wrote that this was signed on the 26th of July which has not arrived yet. Last I checked today was the 17th of July. So was it supposed to say the 26th of june? In that case the post for the petition was not until July 11th, so where was it for the 1st 2 weeks if it was so damn time critical? Seems like there would have been plenty of time to post in shops or ranges and get others involved. Not just sitting at a keyboard thumping your I feel good chest like you actually make a difference and blame others for your piss poor prior planning. Wow I am hot. If we have until the 26th of August there is still time to make a difference. Ok, If you would like to start over, please pm me and we can have civil dicourse and maybe make a difference. Do some actual collaborating and create a united front. I am up for it I just do not like being bullied.

Get one of these, you can find them cheaper but you get the idea http://www.scopesnmore.com/mounts/shotgun_mounts.htm So are you using a 28" vent rib barrell for slugs? Interchangeble chokes?

I am not saying to wait and I agree with your petition, I do not agree with you standing in the Bully Pulpit preaching. Honestly, you seem a little egomaniacle, insisting that every one read and sign your petition and then blasting them because they don't. As Maksim wrote, you would probbly do better to enlist volunteers and go to gunshops an ranges for signatures. Not everyone understands your frustration because many of them just became gun owners or have been hunters who recently became more actively involved in firearms. They are bomarded by scare tactics all day on the news and do not want the same thing on the forum where they come to read and learn.

shotgun is covered by game laws, but NJ is flawed in any and all logic.

NJCSD, That is a little harsh since as of yesterday the links were not working properly by your own admission. If you try something twice and it does not work, how is anyone supposed to know they need to try it 2 more times. I know I had issues with it Coming in with the heavy handed approach after 6 days, shastising working people who may not come to the boards until weekends, during the heart of vacation season is not the way to bring anyone over to your site. A good number of members here are new gun owners and are still navigating the trecherous waters of NJ gun laws. Your last post really turned me off and I signed your petition, imagine what it just did to a new gun owner who is a little timid and shy about attatching their name to an internet petition.

That video makes me want to puke, again.

I did, still at 97 and almost 3 million votes.

That is interesting to read. It is just like their loading manuals. There are different start and max loads for the same cartridge in different manuals. As I wrote I have relied on Sierra bullet techs for many years and they have not let me down. Good Luck

My reloading bench is 12 feet long, 2 feet wide. It is secured to the walls on 3 sides with 3 legs in front. Built out of 2x4 and 2x6. My suface is white solid industrial countertops. White looks cleaner and is easier to spot spilled powder. You will appreciate more depth, go more than 16 in. Do not limit yourself on length or width if you do not have to. I still wish I had more room.

Welcome, I am also a member at Dix.

Welcome to the group

Welcome

I have found the bullet techs at Sierra to be a wealth of information, good luck.

I like 4895 also, not many people use it in 223. In the bolt you have a little more leeway to play with charges because you do not need to cycle the action. You could start at the lowest charge and try the magnum primers if you want to start over again, or just keep looking.