EO1986

Arms-N-Ammo used to have the 15 round mags listed under accessories, but they were frequently sold out. Recently, with this massive rush since Obama was elected, they are apparently so backordered that they are not listing them for the time being. They are, however, selling conversion kits for converting Magpul Pmags to fit only 15 rounds. I have no idea how easy the conversion is, and I believe it involved actually removing part of the magazine. Give it a try and tell us how it goes.

Not from Bayonne, Ray, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if half the towns in New Jersey treat their citizens like crap when they try to exercise their rights.

I believe it has to be permanently reduced to 15 rounds

I believe the NJ laws do allow for the cost to do the background check. They specifically prohibit adding additional charges beyond that, however.

I would have ordered handgun permits at the time I got my FID, however I was under 21 at that time. I was exceedingly polite to him. It just annoys me that it takes 6 months for them to do something that, by law, should be done in under 30 days, and they know there is nothing anybody is going to do about it to make them go faster.

A couple clubs near me have yearly safety courses, which would be a great place to start for a beginner. If you know someone who is into shooting, having them take you out to the range for an afternoon would be a good idea too. If there is a place near you that rents guns, going there and renting a nice variety of .22s will give you an idea of what you like and don't like before you drop several hundred dollars. Absolute first and foremost, however, is learn the four rules of firearm safety. They CANNOT be overstressed. You should read them, reread them, and memorize them before ever laying a hand on a gun. Alot of people who are unfamiliar with guns often handle guns the way they see them handled in movies. Nearly everything you see in movies about guns is absolutely wrong, so do your best to unlearn what you've seen. After safety, the second most important rule of shooting is to have fun, so find a gun that brings a smile to your face, and get out to the range!

At some point, I'd like to buy a handgun. The only real thing thats stopped me till now is not wanting to go through the rectal examination I got when I went for my FID card. For those of you who've gotten pistol permits, how much of a hassle is getting one? Do I have to have references, get fingerprinted, etc again? I don't know about you guys, but for me one of the most annoying parts about the whole NJ process is having to provide references. If any of you are like me, you have few or no friends who are interested in shooting, and asking permission to put their name on the application can be kind of an awkward experience (you want me to sign off so you can get a gun!?!? what on earth do you need a gun for??). In addition, the cop who handled the paperwork at my local PD was incredibly rude to me, and acted like he was doing me the biggest favor in the world by even accepting my paperwork. The same police department acted like I was telling them a joke when I mentioned that NJ law requires the card to be issued within 30 days.... 6 months later, the FID finally showed up. All in all a giant PITA, and one I'd like to avoid as much as possible in the future. I'm sure that's how they want it, too.

I shoot mostly rifles, but have fired a few rounds of sporting clays over the past couple years and really enjoyed it. Sporting clays is way too expensive for me to do regularly, but my local club has a trap setup, which is much more in my price range. I'm thinking of picking up a pump shotgun in the near future for shooting clays, and maybe at some point getting an 18" barrel for it for HD duties. I've always admired the bottom ejecting Ithaca 37, but I also like the 870, and its alot more common. Just wondering what you're opinions are on a first shotgun.

a sad truth i discovered when I was on the NJ legislature's website looking at this bill is that it has been introduced in every session for the past decade, and never gotten any traction. I suspect the reason it is getting so much publicity online now is because someone happened to discover it and is now spreading the word about it, but its by no means new. Not that I don't wholeheartedly support this bill (and I did contact my legislators about it), but I really wouldn't get my hopes up on this one guys.

I believe all the current M1A models are legal in jersey, because they never bothered to put a bayonet lug back on after the ban ended. Be aware that you are limited to the 10 round mags though (unless someone pins down the 20 rounders to 15).

Hello all. I hail from burlington county, and live just across the river from NE Philly. I've been interested in shooting for most of my life, but just got active in it about two years ago. I mostly do target shooting with a .22 rifle, but I dabble in the other shooting sports as well, from handguns to sporting clays. Not sure if anyone here is familiar with the gun counter forum, but I am active over there as well. I hope this forum turns out to be a good resource, because there are all too few NJ shooters on the larger boards on the web. Hope to see you on the range.