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not referencing really boyz in da hood, but the boys in da village... yeah. I have heard enough times about the very macho style of aimed fire by these terror types. Everything they learned about shooting guns was gleaned from the Scarface movie. Plus, having owned a few HPs before, I can say I have never seen one jam, ever. But please do the test yourself. Next time your at the range, turn the gun on its left side so the ejection port is up. Now fire 5 rds fast. If you get through all five rds without a jam you got lucky. Gravity has a way of playing tricks on extractors, sometimes the brass either does not make it all the way out of the ejection port or actually slips back in.

He prob used the gangsta grip, brass did did not eject because of gravity, bingo... instant jam. Not sure if they are selling FNPs over seas .... I would be willing to bet it was a FN P35. Where did he get his gun? Can germans own handguns? Can foreign nationals get handguns in Germany?

Did not know now raritans specifics. Thanks glenn.

Glenn They are looking for more precision also. Shotguns are great on defense, but they want these guys to end active shooter confrontations ASAP. It can take about +20 minutes for SWAT to get tooled up. No taking on a Columbine or VaTech shooter with handguns anymore. Got no issue with this. Get them trained and get them out there.

JonF... One question here remains to be asked. How does it shoot? Reliable? Accurate? Because we could be talking Ford f150 vs Toyota Tundra here.

Good one for you. I about have my new 597 ready. Just need some new 1.25" sling swivels and I will be ready. Going to sight it in this weekend.

Got mine today. Fast shipping. 4 boxes of FED 36gr. Nice heavy duty plastic storage container. Dropped off on my doorstep today. Thanks Cabellas and thanks for the heads up guys.

JonF... so what your saying is that it's not a bad gun for $500, right?

by the way... here is tool voice reviewing the Taurus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GlMGVYl4wY

Tony, I owned a Loaded, it was my first 1911. I was not impressed. I swapped it for a Colt Combat Commander which I stupidly sold. Now i want one back. I am a basic 1911 guy, my only feature I want are bomar sights and ambi safety. That being said... I would recomend HIGHLY you look at the Taurus 1911s. They have a ton of extra features that jack up the price on the SA and SW, they use the same frames as Springfield, made in the same plant in Brazil, and are about 60% the cost. This leaves much change rattling around for ammo.

and another thread ends with a request for pics!

Ha.. I will admit to having to look recipe up and find it again. And you are right, I would probably use it wrong, I am just your middle of the road pervert. But I am willing to train. i will try anything twice. The 40yo Virgin NR "You know how I know you're gay..... " segment is one of the funnies things I have ever heard.

not my recipe... but it is good. Plum and Cherry Pie, aka "Sexy Pie" Ingredients: 5 large plums 1/4 cup dried cherries, chopped 1 Tbs orange liqueur 1/2 cup sugar 1 Tbs flour A pat of butter 1 pie crust Slice the plums in half, removing the pits, and place in a medium bowl. Combine with chopped dried cherries, sugar, flour, and orange liqueur, and let rest for half an hour. Then roll out one pie crust and place on a cookie sheet lined with parchment paper or a silicone baking sheet. In a pinch, a glass pie pan will work as well. Spoon the plum filling into the center of the crust, then fold the edges in. Drop a pat of butter into the center. Bake at 400 degrees until crust is flaky and golden, about 20-25 minutes.

Back to the OP. Ok... I beleive this was the right decision. Now we just need to figure out a way to curtail their methods to gain noteriety and money. They make a ton of cash from frivolous lawsuits against towns that block them and people that confront them. There should be a away to block lawsuits brought about from plaintiff engaged in disgusting behaviors. Now back to the more fun part of this thread. Steph... seriously considering one, but I like to examine before I buy. Can I see a test drive of slumber bunny? I will bring pie.

@djg... those AT92 are supposedly deisgned off Beretta machinery in Turkey exactly like Taurus did in the 80s. Stoeger already made the 800 design guns in Turkey, and this is being done by MKE that was another Turkish Arms Company. Apparently they differ only in the steel guide rod and trigger, where the Berettas are now polymer. Great design and reliable of course, but apparently a touch rough internals. I would opt for the used 92 or as always I prefer a Taurus because of the frame mounted safety.

Paul... they seemed to have really listened and prioritized the alterations. I would like to get a better view of the "action release" button, it looked a like a polymer, I would hope it would be steel with that winged configuration. This is the coolest design to hit the firearm market in a bunch of year. Very innovative, rapid developement and cost effective. Big win for KelTec.

fixed... dont know what happened there.

By the way... I love shotgun conversations... shotguns are what I am most comfortable with and if I ever NEED a firearm, you will watch me bypass about a dozen rifles to get to a shotgun.

Ray and Shane... Ray just brought up the essence of the argument. If you are counting on a firearm to be workable when you need to secure yourself or your family from a BG, as Ray is, then poly/MIM/Alum will work for you. Whereas if you are talking about securing your country after the SHTF and reppeling the hordes... then steel is reguired. It really does depend on what you are personally training for.

God Bless him.

Shane said it better then iI could. Older 870s use all steel parts, Mossberg still uses steel internal parts. The 870P is more along the lines of the original 870 Wingmasters... all steel and a finer finish internally, but at a premium of more then 2x the cost of some 590 models or 3x a 500. I would take a 590 over a 870P, mainly because I am a lefty and the mossbergs work better for me. I like big safeties in easy to reach locations. But shotguns are so much Ford vs Chevy, Cub Cadet vs John Deere. You buy one, you run it, you love it.

Thank you... this will come in handy.

All, I have recruited another few other shooters and they are going to attend the April Shoot, so I have made my decision to attend that shoot also. I know Wojo is going in March. If you list what dates you choose we will set up our line with each other. This should be a good time. So, Myself and my friend Jeff and his wife will be attending April 16 and 17. I know of one other person considering that date. Thanks guys.

Funny... i saw a Bushell Elite 3200 10x40 for sale in the marketplace. Somebody with a thread entitle Yard Sale.... Here it is. http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/22106-yard-sale/