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New, you're looking at $8k to $9500. The newer version I haven't seen for less then $11,500.

I wasn't referring to the arrest of the guy carrying, I was referring to the arrest of the sheriff. If the sheriff was arrested because someone was pissed that he didn't charge the guy and the paperwork thing is bs, that is what I was referring to. Remember, the prosecutor in NY who said he wouldn't prosecute the guy caught with 9 rounds in his mag? Other, progressive states have threatened to remove sheriffs who said they wouldn't enforce the new anti-2A laws that were passed. We don't really know if this guy did anything improper or if someone went after him for his 2A stance.

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Well, we don't know if he did anything illegal with the paperwork, it's alleged right now. He may have done whatever he was supposed to do with the paperwork if he chose not to charge and someone got pissed, we really don't know. The attorney said the records at the jail were " show what happened", meaning they were in order. We'll have to wait and see.

I realized after I posted this someone might ask. I wasn't interested in purchasing one right now, so I didn't ask. I looked on their website and saw 5 prices from $822 to $1349, but they all said out of stock. They're closed now. I'll call tomorrow and ask and post back.

Damn, I guess FL is about to go down the crapper as far as 2A goes. http://guardianlv.com/2013/06/florida-sheriff-nicholas-finch-arrested-for-doing-his-job/ Florida Sheriff Nicholas Finch Arrested for Doing His Job Added by Graham Noble on June 5, 2013. Saved under Florida, Georgia, Graham Noble, guns, Police News, Politics, U.S. Tags: top The residents of Liberty County, Florida heard the news Wednesday that their Sheriff was arrested for doing his job. Sheriff Nicholas Finch, 50, was booked into the Liberty County Jail around 5 pm Tuesday. Florida Governor Rick Scott has named Carl Causey to the post of interim county sheriff. Liberty County is situated in the Florida panhandle, about 40 miles west of the state capital, Tallahassee. Finch is being charged with official misconduct. He was released from jail on his own recognizance shortly after being booked in. The charge is related to an incident in March, in which a deputy sheriff arrested a resident of the county for carrying a concealed weapon. Finch made the decision to release the individual shortly afterwards. It is alleged that he then altered or destroyed paperwork relating to the arrest. Finch has not commented on the matter himself, but his attorney, Jimmy Judkins, released a statement which read ”The records at the jail show exactly what happened in this case and the records speak the truth. The sheriff looked at the facts and said ‘I believe in the second amendment and we’re not going to charge him.’ That is not misconduct at all. That is within the Sheriff’s prerogative whether to charge someone or not.” It appears, therefore, that the Florida sheriff was arrested for doing his job. Following the March 8th incident, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) served a search warrant at the county jail. A press release from FDLE announced the arrest yesterday. The case will go to the State Attorney’s Office, 2nd Judicial Circuit. One Liberty County resident told WCTV “In my personal opinion he was doing his job and people didn’t like it.” Carl Causey, who will replace Sheriff Finch – at least until July 4th – was the Assistant Special Agent in Charge for FDLE’s Pensacola Region. Prior to that, he spent 11 years with the Escambia County Sheriff’s Office. Finch was elected Sheriff of Liberty County in November 2012. In February of this year, all 67 county sheriffs in Florida signed a pledge declaring that they would uphold the 2nd Amendment and protect people’s’ right to keep and bear arms. Sheriff Finch was a signatory to the pledge. The Sheriff’s Association in the neighboring state of Georgia have made a similar pledge to protect the 2nd Amendment. A statement on the GSA website reads “The sheriffs took an oath to support the Constitution and will stand by the 2nd Amendment. The sheriffs will aggressively oppose federal or state legislation which infringes upon law-abiding citizens’ right to bear arms. Sheriff Clay N. Whittle of the Columbia County Sheriff’s Department, said during a radio interview “…we are not going to allow anyone to come into the State of Georgia and violate the Constitution or it’s Amendments, and that specifically carries with it defense of the Second Amendment.” Sheriff Whittle went on to explain the original purpose of the 2nd Amendment: ““The original signers of the Declaration (Constitution) wanted to make sure that people understood that it was about defense of the country against a tyrannical government.” Sheriffs and police chiefs from across the country have voiced similar opinions. The case of Finch, the Florida sheriff arrested for doing his job, may be the opening shot in a battle between the politicians who wish to negate the 2nd amendment and the law enforcement officers who know that the presence of armed civilians makes their job easier, and who are determined to protect the rights of law-abiding citizens. Written by Graham J Noble

I haven't shot one, but held one today in a Norfolk gun store. Felt good in my hands. Would like to shoot one at some point. BLF, what is your opinion on recoil compared to a standard pump?

Agreed!

Well, we'll see if this goes anywhere in the Senate. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/05/house-votes-to-curb-dhs-stockpiles-ammo/ House votes to curb DHS ammunition purchases The House of Representatives voted late Wednesday to limit the amount of ammunition the Department of Homeland Security can purchase and stockpile. Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., proposed the amendment to the annual DHS spending bill. The House approved the proposal by a 234-192 vote. The amendment blocks funds from being used to buy ammunition until the department submits to Congress a comprehensive report on its ammunition usage and purchase history. Lawmakers and Second Amendment advocates have fumed over reports that DHS and other agencies were buying millions of rounds of ammunition, thus fueling the national shortage and driving up prices. Nick Nayak, a DHS procurement officer, said at a House oversight subcommittee hearing in April that the department planned to purchase about 750 million rounds over five years. The rounds are used for basic and advanced law enforcement training for federal law enforcement agencies under the department's umbrella. The facilities also offer firearms training to tens of thousands of federal law enforcement officers. The rest of the 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition the department reportedly aims to obtain would be purchased by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the federal government's second largest criminal investigative agency. ICE's ammunition requests in the last year included: --450 million rounds of .40-caliber duty ammunition --40 million rounds of rifle ammunition a year for as many as five years, for a total bullet-buy of 200 million rounds --176,000 rifle rounds on a separate contract --25,000 blank rounds The amendment must still be approved by the House as part of an overall DHS spending bill, and then reconciled with a Senate measure. Fox News' Chad Pergram and The Associated Press contributed to this report. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/05/house-votes-to-curb-dhs-stockpiles-ammo/#ixzz2VRiMWrTw

I have a .44 XIX in black.

Why would they collect tax just because paperwork was done? What if things fell through, ala Cabelas in NJ, and they never opened a warehouse? Didn't know that. First time I bought one. Thanks.

Just bought an e-book off Amazon and was charged sales tax. Have they built their warehouse already?

Same here.

They really have no problem killing off main characters, that's for sure. Very surprised with this episode.

Dupe. http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/56524-brits-want-their-guns-back/

Booker isn't in the Governor's race.

Yeah, but not until 2014. Don't know if there would be a special election before then. Hopefully Christie appoints someone decent that can get known between now and Nov 14 and maybe win. I know, we are in NJ, but one could hope.

Christie appoints. My concern has been that after Christie won election, during the lame duck session, Dems talked of passing a law that said he would have to appoint someone from the same party. Never heard that it actually happened.

To be fair, we both posted at the same time.

In know it's not a nice thing to say, but I'm not saddened in the least. Now let's see who Christie appoints.

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I won't be shopping there anymore. http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/staples-says-gun-store-cant-enter-contest.html A small Nebraska gun shop has decided to buy its ink pens and post-it notes somewhere else after they said Staples rejected their entry into a marketing contest because they are in the firearms business. Travis Vonseggern and Bill Jackson own Maple Creek Gunsmithing in Fremont, Neb. The store offers gunsmithing, guns, ammo, and firearms training. They recently entered the Staples PUSH It Forward Contest – hoping to win a $50,000 marketing campaign for their small business. But a few days later, the men received a rejection email: “We’re sorry, but your small business entry into the Staples PUSH It Forward Contest has been rejected for the following reason(s): Entry contains content that promotes alcohol, illegal drugs, tobacco, firearms/weapons (or the use of any of the foregoing); promotes any activities that may appear unsafe or dangerous; promotes any particular political agenda or message; is obscene or offensive; or endorses any form of hate or hate group.” The email also stated that Staples “reserves the right to reject any entry that they deem is not in accordance with the official rules.” Jackson said he was shocked that Staples considered their business to be on par with drug dealers and criminals. “I was blown away,” he told Fox News. “I couldn’t believe what I was reading.” A Staples spokesperson confirmed to Fox News that they do not allow businesses that deal in firearms from entering the contest. Jackson said he went from disgusted to angry. “They lumped us in with criminals,” he said. Jackson and Vonseggern are Army veterans and Vonseggern was awarded a Purple Heart. “Everything in our store is patriotic,” Vonseggern said. “For us to be classified as a drug dealer or obscene and offensive is hurtful to our feelings.” So the store owners decided to post the email they received on Facebook “to let our customers know where (Staples) stands.” “The company policy clearly states they are not all the way pro-gun,” Vonseggern said. “They’ve got a little lefty in them.” And the next time they need paper products, the men said they will be shopping at a locally owned store.

Back to the original question, .408 Chey Tac.