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I do find some difference in the different systems I have an older M&P15 w/ 16" (no muzzle device) w/ carbine and a Spikes 16" midlenth w/ Dynacomp. I find the carbine system cycles the bolt a little quicker and gets back on target a smidge quicker. However, I do think the Dynacomp is not the greatest. It has some significant flash and also pushes the barrel slightly down and find myself fighting it to get back to line of sight. I would guess a different muzzle device would help that. As far as recoil, I don't see much difference though. Also, the carbine setup will be more tolerant of all kinds of ammo, but it does stress the internals a bit more. Also, gas port size and buffer weight will matter in recoil characteristics

Greetings It's been a while since I've been on this site, but had some questions on an "Other Than" AR. Was at RTSP in Randolph today. Just got me some handgun permits and wanted to see what they had..some Gen 3 G17's, some tricked out Sig P320C's and 1911's. I have a barrel for an AR I've been wanting to build up, so bought a stripped lower they had. But.... They had a Troy A4 Other Than 10.5" barrel. Got to fondle it a little and wow, very cool setup. Can not believe it's NJ legal. In talking to the sales person he mentioned that Troy also makes a 12.5" version with a non pinned muzzle device which is legally removable. This has me now thinking of using that newly purchased lower to build an "Other Than". I tried searching, but can't find anything that spells out specifics on what features make up an Other Than. Was hoping I could get some info on the specifics of that definition and what I can and can't do for a build, or even if I can legally build one. Thanks!

It truly amazes me how the PX4 has become a "cool" pistol after so many years of being looked over. I am among those people that never thought much of the pistol. Started following some threads on it from Ernst Langdon and got the bug. I did a trade with an Inox Vertec 92 for a full size PX4 G worked over by Ernst Langdon with Talon grip tape, small profile levers, and Ameriglo night sights. I couldn't warm to the Vertec grip frame and the trigger was no where near as good as my wife's 1994 92FS, with D spring and Elite II hammer in both pistols. That PX4 pistol rocks. Low recoil, accurate, a DA trigger that's smooth and decent in the weight department (assumes Cougar spring and some polishing), 15rd mags available. Something to consider, the slide is very easy to work on the PX4 guns. I've met some women who had some level of issue with racking a G19. I've also shot the PX4 Compact. I must be the oddball since I didn't really warm up to it. It is a nice pistol, but i prefer the full-size.

I've got Mepros, Trijicon old school 3 dot with white outline and Ameriglo Spartans on 5 9mm Glocks. I by far like the Spartans. I think the front sight is a little thinner than the 1st gen Trij HD's. I wouldn't mind going a little thinner still. For the $, the Spartans work really well.

I REALLY like it. It tackles a bunch of "issues" that advance the platform. Dovetailed rear and FRONT sights Bevelled mag well Extended mag catch Comes with night sights The safety can easily be converted to a G configuration (decocker only) Will come with optional grips that wrap around the backstrap sort of mimicking the standard 92 grip frame I know a lot of people find the platform dated, but I've recently been moving back to my wife's 92FS with D spring, Elite II hammer and Beretta aluminum grips. My biggest gripe with the platform was the trigger being heavy. The D spring and Elite II hammer (less so), really have enhanced the trigger. I still love my Glocks, but I like the challenge of trying to master the Beretta platform. Also, the 92 series pistols are very accurate. I'm looking forward to the M9A3. I just got some permits a couple of weeks ago and will be holding one for this pistol.

I have a variety of pistol including a few Glocks. For me, I find that if I switch to other platforms and then have the Glock mixed in there, I don't do all that well with the Glock. If, when I go to the range, I just bring the Glock, I wind up shooting well with it. Dry fire the snot out of your Glock to get used to the trigger. Use some flavor of snap cap though. I cracked the breach area of my Gen 2 G19 from dry firing A LOT w/out snap caps.

Beautiful. I have 3 permits coming in a week or so. Some flavor of 92 is on my list.

Beautiful pistol, and thanks for the info.

Appreciate the info. Are 15 round mags available for the Phantom? The P-09 looks interesting, but I have a hard time swallowing going from a 19rnd mag to a 10rnd mag.

Got it. Thanks!

svt3183 - Yes, I did rack it and I can understand your objections. Being that the slide sits in the frame vs. over the frame as on most other pistols, it makes for small cocking serrations. It didn't bother me too much, and I'm sure with practice it wouldn't be too much of an issue. Mods, any hints as to why I can't quote / multiquote?

Went to RTSP yesterday to sling some lead and help break in my buddy's newly acquired Sig P226 Mk 25 FDE. Being the idiot that I am, I wanted to bring my wife's Beretta 92FS but was running late and forgot to bring it. I only brought my P226 w/ E2 grip. During shooting, I noticed that I'm not really digging the E2 grip and preferring the original style grip that was on my buddy's Mk 25. I had finished up my allotment of ammo and went to the retail section to look at a few pistols. The 1st one was a Beretta 92G. The first thing I noticed was the slightly restyled grip. At least on the 92G, 92A1 and M9A1, Beretta is doing the grip a little differently by machining the area where the web of your hand would sits in a little further, maybe 1-2mm (not positive on the measurement). At least at first feel, it seems to fit my hand much better. My fingers are on the shorter side and it allowed my trigger finger to reach the double action trigger with much better contact. AFAIK, there is no G model with a rail. An M9A1-G or 92A1 G would be my ideal choice. The other pistol I looked at has a 30+ thread on M4carbine.net. It is the CZ P-07. At least dry firing and interacting as much as one can at a gun store, I was very impressed with the pistol. It comes to line of sight very naturally, the controls work for me, the sights sit low on the low bore axis slide, texture felt like it would give some grip, SA trigger was very nice, it was light and was thinner than a G19. DA pull was pretty heavy, but in the thread on M4Carbine.net, there is extensive detail describing fixes to bring the DA pull to as low as 6lb. And it's relatively cheap at $525. Being that I'm very into DA/SA pistols lately, this pistol is resonating with me heavily.

Shane45 - Agree

Who is Steve and where do I buy a VP9 through him?

Greetings, Did some researching over the weekend. Some thoughts..... 1911 9mm - While I'm sure it's a nice gun for the range, not interested. I'm done with range only guns and I still read about mags being the weak link on this platform for reliability. Sig Mk 25 / Combat - Still high on desirability list, but if purchased, will add the SRT trigger. Beretta 92A1/M9A1 - Hadn't realized that there some parts on the 92A1 that are not compatible with the older 92FS in our house. The M9A1 has moved up the list due to having no parts compatibility issues, better checkering and beveled mag well. Ruger 9mm - I've shot/handled a few, but they did nothing for me. VP9 - Still high on the purchase list. Gen4 G17 - Also, still high on the purchase list. CZ P07 - Been reading some good stuff on this pistol. Understand this can be made into a great shooter, but out of the box, it's good, but a little raw. I have 3 permits coming. Right now, my top 3 are Beretta M9A1, VP9, Gen4 G17, followed by Sig P226 and CZ offering.

Greetings, In doing some more research, I think I'm now more interested in the M9A1. Didn't realize that there are some parts that don't have commonality with the wife's 92. While the M9A1 doesn't have a dovetail front sight, it does have a beveled mag well and the front sight can be drilled. S&W 1911 9mm - Would probably be a very cool range gun, but I barely shoot the 1911 I currently have. And also, it's a little pricey. If I'm going to spend that much, it would be on a Wilson Combat or AGW Beretta. Sig Mk 25 - Yes, a very cool gun. My buddy just bought the FDE model. Today, right now, I'm somewhere between the Sig and Beretta.

Wow, nice score. I've been really into my wife's 92FS with D spring lately. Very cool pistol. Would you mind negotiating my pistol purchases in the future?

Greetings, I have an itch for a new 9mm. In 9mm, I currently have a Gen2 G19, Gen3 G19, Gen2 G17, G26, Walther P5 &PPQ, HK P7 PSP, '96 Sig P226, M&P40 w/ 9mm barrel and my wife's '94 Beretta 92FS w/ D spring. I'm thinking of selling off a few things (P5, CZ75SA in .40, M&P45, M&P40, possibly the PPQ M1) to fund some new purchases. I've applied for 3 permits (not that I'll use them all) and am undecided between some choices (in no particular order). 1. Beretta 92 - I've recently refallen in love with the Beretta 92 since installing the D spring. Previous to the D spring install, DA was really hard to be accurate with. Post D spring install, it's my preferred way to shoot the pistol. As a result, I find myself gravitating back to the DA/SA trigger in a metal pistol. 92A1 is high on the list. I like that it has a replaceable front sight and has a rail. Looks wise, I prefer the M9A1, but I want choices for the front sight. Mags are cheap, and .......Wilson is playing in the Beretta game. Lots of cool parts and what not. 2. Sig P226, either a Combat of Mk 25 - Either way, an SRT would go in. I've been reading about quality issues on the newer Sigs for a while, but I'm reading more and more that Sig has gotten the message and they've revamped their tooling and are making good guns again. Being that I've been playing with the 92 w/ D spring lately, I've also been putting in trigger time with my current P226. I wouldn't mind having a more modern variant with a rail. Cost gives me a little pause though. 3. HK VP9 - I've been wanting a modern HK 9mm semi for some time. I've had occasion to shoot someone's USP9C at the range and really liked it. I've shot a fellow member's P30, but for whatever reason, wasn't that jazzed with it, primarily with the trigger. I understand the VP9 may be the answer. I realize it's still new and relatively unvetted, but in my mind, this could be best interpretation of a modern striker fired 9mm. Also, the price is desirable. If I get this pistol, the PPQ is on the chopping block. 4. Gen4 G17 / G19 - I love my 9mm Glocks. I've dry fired my Gen2 G19 so much without snap caps, I shattered the breach area of the slide. Glock was good enough to replace w/ a Gen3 slide. Anyway, at the range one of my fav pistols to shoot is the G17. I've held the Gen4's, but never fired them. I find the new grip shape very appealing. I also have a Gen4 G21 and G23 and find the triggers and all mechanisms feel more refined than previous. I find shooting a Glock well is more rewarding than most other platforms. 5. CZ 75 or P07 - These choices are the dark horse in the race. I wish the CZ75 I have was a 9mm and this wouldn't be an issue. I've read some really favorable reviews of the P07 though. Not sure what mag capacity is, but by all accounts, it's supposed to be very accurate and very easy to shoot accurately. 6. Sub compact 9mm - I'm somewhere between a Walther PPS, Kahr of some flavor and S&W Shield. Of course being in NJ, getting a pistol of this nature is impractical, but I don't have anything this small and wouldn't mind filling this niche. Suggestions? Thoughts???

Since you already have some Glocks and a Ruger .22......I suggest a Wilson Combat Beretta 92A1. I've been salivating over this since I stuck "D" spring in my wife's 92FS.

The classic Gen 2 G19. Very cool. That was my 1st G19 and it's still my fav. I dry fired that sucker so much without snap caps, I shattered the breach area from the firing pin slamming into back of the breach area. Glock was kind enough to give me a Gen3 slide for the pistol.

I have a Gen4 G23 and have shot my buddy's Gen2 and Gen3 extensively. I think the Gen4's are a great evolution of the platform, especially in .40. Having said that, it always leaves me uneasy that for any .40 Glock I've fired, it leaves a bulge on the cartridge case due to the chamber not being fully supported. Between the G19 and G23, I prefer the G19. Regarding the G19, it is arguably the most efficient 9mm package in terms of size, weight and # of rounds. It is sculpted as sexy as a PPQ (have one of those too), no, it's not. However, for me, the G19 tracks better and can be shot almost as accurately. Rather I should say, the PPQ is easier to be accurate with when taking slow paced deliberate very focused aim. The G19 shoots better when shot at a quicker pace. The G19 has a trigger, that while far from as nice feeling as a lot of pistols, works very well when shooting with a more combat shooting mind set. Having said that, the G19 trigger took me quite some time to get comfortable with. I also like that the trigger is not fully cocked while in battery, as compared to an M&P / PPQ, etc. Parts availability and cost are about as good as it gets. Mags are $25 or less. All the sight companies make sights for Glocks. If you're going to have 1 pistol to do everything with, there are not many better choices than the G19.

In order of preference of calibers for platforms owned... Handgun .45 9mm .22lr .40 Long gun .22lr .308 / 7.62x51 .223 / 5.56x45

I have no experience with the SL line, but I understand the handguards are slimmer than the previous ones. I'm willing to drop $20 on the new hand grip to see how that fares. On M4Carbine.net, there are a lot of hints being thrown out there by MagPul reps suggesting that some new fixed stocks will be available in the near future. Very curious on these. Regarding M-LOK, I have no dog in the KeyMod or M-LOK fight. From what I've read, I think M-LOK will win the battle between the 2. The mounting system seems to make more sense, and while there are a bunch of manufacturers playing in the KeyMod world, a bunch are also playing in the M-LOK world.

I picked one up some years ago when the German police was switching over to something else, there were a bunch of P7 PSP's that came up for sale. Laser accurate and I love the recoil signature. The recoil is very fast without much muzzle movement. One of the springs broke in mine and needs fixing.

My pistol calibers are.... 9mm (Primary) .40 (for when the ammo scares happen, .40 still seems gettable) .45 (I love shooting .45. Wish the ammo was cheaper) .22lr (for truly focusing on accurate shooting)