Ray Ray

Blazer aluminum? Wolf steel cased? Tula steel cased?

Shotguns are my favorite firearms by far, and I'm not against this one at all. I WANT it to be awesome and run great and be exactly what it could be. BUT, it's a Kel-Tec, and they are known for quality hit-and-miss AND not to mention having unobtainable firearms. I have to shoot this thing a ton for me to trust it.

Remy and Mossy have been building them for 100 years, Kel-Tec hasn't even put it out yet. I'm not betting my life on the latest-and-greatest thing that just pops up. I'll stick with the industry standard, and they set the bar for all other shotguns to compete against. Good luck!

I agreed with you Frank until you said that! You should've said many shooters reload. But it's true, if you reload then your serious about shooting and are not some newb looking to feed his magnums for cheap.

You know, you can get them now. But amen to that brother!

Damn, we be the same age yo! See ya Sunday gee Happy birthday to you both.

Any photo's Brian?

I don't reload but I'm all for using them in the range. Sorry, but noone's gonna follow that rule. They'll put them in used boxes and they'll just shoot them as they are.

Good point Vlad, only time will tell. BTW, when is it coming out?

I was 19, had a pocket full of money, everything was cheap (including the women), and I was nuts. Mexico was great!

I was there Saturday, it's gonna be a great range!

based on? Remington and Mossberg have set the industry standard on the perfect pump shotgun. Easy to use, affordable, and lots of after-market options. The Kel-Tec has alot of work ahead of itself to prove it's worth the 700 dollar price tag and to be considered in the Remy/Mossy category. Listen, I like the idea and design but it seems to me that it will require some getting used to since the loading chamber is backwards and it can't be loaded from the shoulder. But, BUT, if someone just wants one home defense shotgun this would be a great option.

Vlad, there are many pump guns that DON'T run. I also have an issue with your statement that shotguns aren't the best tool for HD. Then what is? I guess it's an SBR Saiga 12 with a drum mag, which is a shotgun right? You don't make sense.

Some of those sound familar! Right Bry, wink wink!

Mexico was great, especially the clubs and "strip clubs". Spent alot of my money/paychecks there!

i'll never tell, but lets just say you'll see them in the press release

Yeah baby!

Yeah, I have an STI spartan that won't feed worth a damn. I'll use the funds for the Taurus Judge full size!

if you get pulled over and they start snooping around and find your firearms, they'll run a serial # check to see if they're stolen and who owns them. I don't need my PURCHASER card to transport my guns. But, to each his own. If you feel better carrying it, then so be it.

Which is why I don't go to those forums (and Glock or XD for that matter as well). On my third Taurus and can't be happier.

We've probably meet before right? Anyway, sup gee!

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Um, could we see the photoS in full size? And all of them please!