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ProMag makes crap. Any money spent on their mags is money you could've spent better setting on fire. I have had experience with several different ProMag mags, and all have sucked so badly it made me wonder how the company is in business. ProMag rant over.

From a strictly "Company" standpoint, I feel like Browning makes only quality products. I have been happy with every one I have owned or shot. These days I think Remington quality has slipped. Unless you are buying premium products from them (i.e. Wingmasters, 700LTR, 700P, etc), you are getting a product that may or may not be well made. On the flip side, Remington customer support has always been top notch. I have gotten free replacement parts from them with no hassle (that the parts came off in the first place is a different story). My experience with Browning Customer Support is a shade below.

Great post. Thanks!

Obama never needs to say one more word about gun control. All he needs to do is appoint a few Supreme Court justices like his last two. Watch your fundamental right turn into a tightly regulated privilege. You are out of your mind if you think there would have been no difference in your life between the candidates. We just need to wish for continued good health for Kennedy, Scalia, etc.

Shore Shot in Lakewood will let you rent all of their guns in a single caliber for one rental fee. I think it's $10 for members and $20 for non-members. Beware though. They make you buy their ammo, and it is very expensive for non-members. And I thought the Glock Koolaid was strong. HK's are well made and reliable. I have owned a few and (except for the P7 variants), I never saw the big deal was. The egonomics on the new HKs are better than a Glock, but not much different than an M&P. The ergs on the older models, like the USP, are downright brickish and Glock-like. I don't clean my plastic guns very often. I do try to wet them a little with CLP or EEZOX once in a while. I never shot an HK or a Glock to failure. If you really like exposed hammers and SA/DA, then HK may be your gun. Or maybe the FN FBNP is. For double action (or constant action,or whatever you want to call it), I actually like the Glock trigger better than the HK LEM. Ultimately though, I might be the limiting factor in the comparison because I can't run a gun hard enough to make the Glock fail in some way where the HK would keep going. But I suspect the differences are more hype than reality. YMMV.

Bump.My wife relented, so... Anybody have any antique wall hangers (especially shotguns) that they want to sell?

Putting together a lower is one of the easier gun related tasks out there. Tell him to buy a decent lower parts kit, then watch some YouTube. He may kick himself for paying for something that is not hard at all.

I am thinking the wife shoots that one down.

CZ makes them too. Blued = classic Stainless = meh

If you like steel guns, don't overlook CZs. Their slide-in-frame design makes them one of the most accurate non-custom pistols made today. The metal soaks up the recoil and the single action trigger can be made to be extremely nice. Stop by Heritage Firearm Guild in Rahway. From what I understand they have a lot of CZs and Sigs.

There are many legitimate firearms dealers in New Jersey who will receive a firearm in non-compliant form, do the requisite compliance work on it (i.e. pinning a stock, welding on a muzzle brake, etc) then transfer it to you. The FFL is giving you a compliant firearm. You are never in possession of a non-compliant firearm and thus are not breaking the law in any way.

FNP Police is legal. Barrels are interchangeable if you really want the SLP cantilever setup. Check CDNN for good pricing on one.

Timbersmith Russian Red if you want new (and awesome looking) wood.

I went with a Spike's 14.5 Midlength upper and put on an A1 fixed stock since adjustable ones don't adjust in the People's Republic of NJ. I had hoped to be able to use a rifle buffer for it but found it to be undergassed. I ended up having to use a spike's spacer and an H buffer. The gun cycles very reliably now. I used to get the occasional FTE with the rifle buffer and spring. And man was it a **** to get unstuck.. My Colt 6940 (16" barrel, carbine gas system) has some stout ejection. Maybe that is why it doesn't like steel cased ammo and the Spikes is OK. I have read that article before and think it is pretty dead on.Next time around I would swap and get the 14.5 in carbine and 16" in mid-length and save having to tinker with different buffers.

Trak's Gunsmithing is a sponsor here. You could PM him.

The CZ 527 Varmint comes with a heavy barrel.

Can't speak to the EMP, but I have owed several flavors of the HK P7 series. The P7M8 is a great gun. It is extremely accurate, ambidextrous, and simple to take apart for cleaning. It has the lowest bore axis (minimizing recoil) of any gun I have ever shot. It does get very hot after about 50 rounds though and I found that the brass gets a bit chewed (which only matters to reloaders, and since 9mm brass is the most common one on range floors, probably not even too much to them). The only downside to the P7M8 is cost. Currently, they run about $1500+ for one in excellent to new condition. Also, the newer P7M8 pistols had pretty crappy bluing jobs done and it is very common to see a little surface rust on them and worn bluing on the sharp edges. The P7 PSP is a better option. It can be had for around $600 in good shape. They are usually HK refurbished German police trade-ins. HK put new internals in them, but did not refinish the outside. You are basically getting a new gun with whatever finish it had when turned in. One difference between the PSP and the M8 is that the PSP has the European style heel mag release. Some folks who conceal carry them prefer it to the trigger guard release on the M8, which is easier to accidentally hit when drawing the gun. The other difference is that on the M8, no tool is required to remove the firing pin assembly. On the PSP you need a small blade type tool to do it. If you ever intend to CCW this gun, be aware that it is heavy (like 45ACP 1911 heavy), although I am sure it would be fine in the right holster.

If you want to try something a little different.... CZ. It has the nicest wood I have seen on any non-custom rifles. And the rifles are definitely shooters. I had a CZ 452 in 17HM2, and it was a great rifle. Model 527. Varmint model has 1:9 twist http://www.cz-usa.co...cz-527-varmint/ American 1:12 twist http://www.cz-usa.co...z-527-american/ Lux has 1:12 twist http://www.cz-usa.co...iew/cz-527-lux/ Carbine 1:12 http://www.cz-usa.co...cz-527-carbine/

Look at Savage. I think Remington (except for their high end stuff) has gone to crap. The Companies they acquired (Marlin and Bushmaster) certainly have. Do some Google searches on Remington/Marlin/BM quality control.

Since you are looking for some sort of tactical shotgun, why not sell the one you have now and buy a used Mossberg for $200 rather than hacking apart your current gun. Gun stores and auction sites are full of cheap, barely used tacticool abominations because most folks put together guns they think look badass, then barely use them since they're not for hunting or clays, or anything else of use (besides looking cool and fighting zombies). You will have gotten a gun inexpensively, and then can get your money back when you sell it to someone else after finding it to be as useless as its prior owner did. After more experience with a shotgun, you may find that the gun you can shoot well enough to hit 20 out of 25 fast-moving small clay targets could be the one you feel confident enough with to save your life. Personally, I would feel better about that gun than the one I take out four or five times a year to blow shitt up. I started the tactical route years ago and have arrived at a different destination. My home defense gun is a bone stock Remington 870 police (basically a Wingmaster with an anodized finish, a short barrel, and a fixed IC choke). And I wish it had the rib you are dying to remove. The elevated sight plane from a rib gives you much better peripheral sight picture than staring down a barrel. YMMV.

Daniel is a really nice guy, accommodating and a pleasure to deal with.

That was probably the best gun related thread I have ever read. The fact that he managed to throw in some vintage 80's Yakov Smirnoff was just gravy.

Actually, the safe is quite a bit lighter these days. http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/41709-wts-excellent-condition-stevens-311-sidebyside-shotgun-20-gauge/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/41577-wts-fn-fnp45-usg-45acp/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/41182-wts-ruger-pc9-carbine-9mm-lots-of-extras/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/41133-wts-like-new-converted-saiga-223-with-lots-of-goodies/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/40700-wts-new-in-box-walther-ppq-9mm/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/40452-wts-like-new-cz-85-combat-9mm-extras/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/40320-wts-norinco-sks-paratrooper-762x39-ammo/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/39831-wts-excellent-condition-springfield-m1a-scout-squad/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/39763-wts-like-new-cz-452-17hm2/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/39684-wts-remington-1100-classic-trap-huntinghome-defense-setup/page__fromsearch__1 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/38397-wts-new-beretta-nano-400/page__fromsearch__1

Awesome. I have achieved VERB status.

I half agree with the above. 22LR is not as good a choice as some other calibers. But many 22 revolvers also have a large capacity, like 10 rounds. I have seen folks who are faster with a revolver than I'll ever be with a pistol. If you wanted to stick with a 22 revolver for weight/recoil reasons (i.e. arthritis, elderly, etc), perhaps you should consider a 22 magnum. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/04/robert-farago/speer-22wmr-personal-protection-round/