BCeagle

Who hears the request? Is it a county judge or the local municipal judge?

defending life and liberty, of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and of pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness. Pretty obviously an endorsement of the right to bare and use arms. I wonder why no one has tried it.

I would settle to know if they had any in stock before I get there.

I was thinking the same thing, I figured the M1903A was $800 because i want it more.

Its a abad image for the state if they come rigt out and talk about the political corruption, but its true. We could always try and get pro gun people elected in areas that voted for one gun a month. I'll try and put up a list next week esp those that voted for it in republican areas.

Its amazing how much the price differnce is even in NJ, I was looking at an HK45 and between Meltzers, Rahway and BulletHole there was a $250 range. NJ provides a big enough thrust that I dont think of Uncle Same, just corzine putting it in. When I see tax on a egg mcmuffin I get soooo pissed.

I order 9mm ammo in April from Sportsman Guide still on back order til next year!!!!

Thanks, I am obsessive when it comes to research. When I bought my last gun there was a $150 range just within the state and I hate to feel ripped off. Esp when I have to pay the tax on the amount I was ripped off for.

I have been looking at prices for k98k's and and M1903 springfields and the range is ridiculous online. Any place I can go to get prices that I can use to compare to.

Thanks, guys, I wasnt in the market for anything (always looking for ammo) but I think I may look for some WW2 era stuff, maybe a Mosin or k98k. Saving my cash for an AR and prices have been dropping. I appreciate the advise and plan on being there when it opens and budgeting enough time to stop at Cracker Barrel.

Its not a bad idea, you would like to have as many people as possible but I cant see us getting more then 20, so it would be semi social and could be at a home. Hopefully it grows from there.

I believe Nappen has moved out of NJ Really, he was just on the NRA channel speaking about one gun a month in NJ. I guess he figured he couldnt change from within and had to move out. Where are you located and whats the issue, I can probably get you a name or 2. You can PM me if you want.

Most towns prohibit discharge and the sound will carry. I dont think it qualifies as a range either. (I wish I could put one in my basement.)

I am heading to the gun show in Allentown this weekend, was thinking of picking one up anything I should look for and a price range?

I would advise them to get the FID, why risk trouble down the line. Not worth it.

Not only is it common, it is pretty much forced upon us by the State and Mt Laurel decisions, we have lost all control as citizens and our state is a one party joke. The only way to get change is to organize and fight back. Meetings, volunteer for pro-gun candidates, we also need to organize in inner cities not just white suburbia. I have been trying to get as many people to get their license and but a gun as possible, so they feel they have a stake in this. If people dont think it effects them, they dont care. We have a small group here that are interested in this, we need numbers.

Looking at heading to the show this weekend. 1st gun show, can anyone tell me what to expect? any ammo? are the prices that much better?

Didnt Wolf have issues with corrosiveness?

I would hope that we could get them all repealed. I agree I would prefer to have the AWB removed, since I probably wouldnt carry and I dont but more then one gun a month anyway. I would think it would be which ever is easiest. But, who wants to risk being arrested, unless you had an 80yo grandpa that was willing to take one for the team. Maybe someone about to plead guilty to something serious and is our on bail, so the sentences would run concurrently?

I always thought that if you could show a federal question or a violation of a federal/constitutional right you could begin in federal court. I know Roe v. Wade started in District Court. Admittedly the only times I have been in federal court were based on diversity of citizenship. Hence the whole reason I would never file it myself, I would hate to screw up and screw everyone else up. Dewhitewolf, you should be an attorney you present things better then most guys I see in Hudson County.

What's your legal strategy? Which court (state or federal) were you planning on filing in? What's the issue, and what is the legal basis for challenging it? Remember that Jersey City had at least four attorneys representing the city pro bono in the case where the city's one gun per month ordinance was challenged. You'll be fighting just as many, if not more if you plan on challenging the one gun a month statute. If you plan on filing in federal court, keep in mind you need an actual controversy, not a hypothetical one. That means you have to show how you were actually harmed by existing legislation, AND that that legislation is either contradictory to existing federal law (and argue supremacy) or that it is a violation of your Constitutinal rights. The Supreme Court in the Heller case still recognized the authority of states to pass "reasonable restrictions." You would have to demonstrate that any restrictions you face are "unreasonable." Realistically, you will require the services of an attorney experienced in federal court proceedings as well as Constitutional issues. Then figure out a way to pay for him. I would go Federal because I have no faith in the NJ Court System, plus I like the rules of civil procedure better since the judges don't have as much leeway. Getting the case and controversy wont be an issue, assuming incorporation happens, I go apply for 2 handgun permits and try and buy matching western pistols or something like that. The whole issue becomes reasonable restrictions which is why I like the idea of matching pistols, why should I be denied something so innocent. I would be a good candidate for CCW, no record, attorney, carry large amounts of cash or diamonds at times, even had a few threats a long time ago. I just wouldn't want to waste the time applying for the permit then getting denied. As for the pro bono, I would prefer that, I can write better then most attorneys, but the research part would kill me, I would need 3-4 good law students to donate their time. The State AG would represent the state and they have all the money in the world.

I was always told to give to the Gun Owners of America rather then the NRA since they were more hardline on the issues.

If it wasnt so important, I would file the suits myself but I am paranoid about screwing it up. I wonder if NJ had to face a rash of lawsuits on the matter and was forced to defend each one if they would give in a little. I think someone should fight 1 gun a month as soon as the incorporation issue is decided. I wish I had a large staff of volunteers solely devoted to doing something in NJ.

That would be the most beautiful and liberating sight ever. Until it takes you a year or two to get it because of everyone in front of you and the local PD's just ignoring filing it for a few months till they have some free time to do one or two here and there. A right delayed is a right denied.

That would be the most beautiful and liberating sight ever. Esp. coming out of a CA court. We can only hope.