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Maybe, maybe not. How about a $2,000 federal tax on all gun purchases and a 500% federal tax on all ammo purchases, with the proceeds going to help fund Obamacare? That goes along with the current tax on alcohol and tobacco products and the proposed taxes on "unhealthy" food and drink. Since guns will be considered a public health issue, how is it any different from drinking, smoking or obesity? Just sayin'. They are not allowed to levy those kinds of taxes on anything. It has been tried before ( can not remember the exact instance to quote), but their is some federal regulation that prevents an absurd tax like 500% on anything. Yeah, now. If it's a law, it can be changed. If it's a Constitutional mandate, it can be ignored with the rest of the document. What about the confiscatory tax on corporate bonuses that came within a hairsbreadth of passing? Ya think this would be any different? I suspect the dialog has been ongoing behind the big doors.

Maybe, maybe not. How about a $2,000 federal tax on all gun purchases and a 500% federal tax on all ammo purchases, with the proceeds going to help fund Obamacare? That goes along with the current tax on alcohol and tobacco products and the proposed taxes on "unhealthy" food and drink. Since guns will be considered a public health issue, how is it any different from drinking, smoking or obesity? Just sayin'.

With the gubbermint moving to make gun violence a public health issue rather than a national law enforcement issue, we have this little gem: http://www.ammoland.com/2009/10/09/obamacare-could-be-used-to-ban-guns/ It just keeps getting better and better.

But this has a name... SWINE FLU. Something we can target as the cause of our fear. Like ASSAULT WEAPON or GLOBAL WARMING. It's not some conceptual entity like "the flu". We've all had "the flu" and mostly lived through it, but this is the SWINE FLU, and since we felt it was important enough to give it name that separates it from the regular, run of the mill seasonal flu, it must be so much more dangerous and deadly, and presents an opportunity not to be missed or minimized.

:hope: And if you don't have an actual crisis, but you have an agenda, create a crisis in the minds of the public and move forward.

Greetings and welcome.

I think there a couple of things at work here, and neither of them are good. First of all, it's about fear. Make you afraid of something you have no control over and when you become afraid enough to allow the suspension of certain rights, the government comes in and "helps" with the problem. I keep hearing the news reports about how many people have died from H1N1. It's almost becoming a running count from day to day. No mention of how many people have died from the regular flu, or car accidents, or heart attacks, or anything else for that matter. Just be afraid of this, because we have plan to stem the tide of the "pandemic". Now, when you're afraid enough, the shiitake hits the fan. Mandatory vaccinations. Suspension of right to assemble. Media takeover for the purpose of disseminating "public service" messages. Global mandates that supersede our national sovereignty. Seizure of firearms to preserve the peace. (BTW, on an unrelated topic, our loving government is in the process of moving gun violence away from being a law enforcement issue into becoming a public health issue. Nice, huh?) Secondly, it's about control. Make the public afraid of their neighbor. No touching. No handshaking. No close contact. Isolate the individual and take him out of a community mindset, and he's easier to control. take away the support of a group, and controlling the individual becomes simpler. It may be a tinfoil hat issue, but combined with everything else that's happening to destroy this country (Climate Control Treaty, 'net neutrality legislation, healthcare takeover, taking ownership of newspapers, etc., etc.), it's more likely than not to be the actual plan. I hope I'm wrong, but I fear for the future. There was a time when this would be considered conspiracy theory nutjob rambling, but when these kinds of suggestions come from Washington, what else is there to think?

Sorry for the typo. It's "skylandssport", with 2 esses. Yeah, a GoDaddy parked url. Maybe I'll stop back there and see if they could use some help with their site.

I wish I could steal an afternoon this week, but I'm up to my a$$ in work. Have fun.

Welcome to the group.

Damn, I really like saying that. There's a new shop in Newton. Yay!!! Skylands Sport Shop 973 300-5883 They've only been open for 2 weeks, so their inventory is understandably limited, but the owner (I think his name is Cliff) says he can order anything that can be gotten. Says he wants to be price competitive, and will talk price with anyone serious about buying. He's currently working on stocking up, starting with basic guns, and moving up from there. There's counter space for a bunch of handguns, and rack space for long guns. He has a small selection of ammo at this point, but he's optimistic about stocking up there, too. General shooting accessories, full line of Shoot n' See targets (and others), eyes, ears, a few cases, and some other sporting goods. $40 + NICS for transfers. Nice guy, runs the place with his wife, and seem to want to be helpful and accommodating. If you're in the area, stop in and offer your support. It can't be an easy business to start at this time, and ya gotta give the guy credit for taking the chance. Address is: 105 Water St. (the same building as the mattress store) Newton www.skylandsport.com (I haven't checked the site yet, but I will right after dinner) Ken

See Chad. He had them left over from the car wash.

Intents and Porpoises

Absolutely. :flags-usa:

Greetings and welcome.

Welcome to the monkey house.

So do I. Thanks, Col. M..

Thanks. Great information.

I'll be in Jersey for 3 weeks over the winter break and I'll be getting a creek pass as well. Yeah, who the hell travels to New Jersey from Colorado to hit up the slopes, this guy :roll: I thought you came here for the relaxed firearms laws.

Could be tomorrow morning.

Don't feel too bad, I do shrimp and lobster (Lynn works for a seafood wholesaler). Even the summer/beach/clambake theme doesn't improve the view out the window.

Sparta update: Coming down like mad, and starting to stick to the grassy areas and roofs. Sucks. And I also grill outside all winter. I pretend it's summer, do up a summer picnic thing on the dining room table. Doesn't work too well. It's still winter, still cold, still dismal. I wish I could either hibernate or migrate. Sadly, neither is an option.

I say fake. Keeps glancing at the camera.

Snowing lightly up here in Sparta, too. I thought it was just lake effect from Mohawk, but it seems it's more widespread. Way too early. I blame Al Gore. Pesky Global Warming.

It doesn't really matter what the "chances" are. It's illegal, and it's still illegal even if you don't get caught. Yeah, the law is stupid and pointless, but it's the law.