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hello and welcome! What pistols are you thinking about?

Haha, I was always taught to slap the mag in the hand-- all the rest was Hollywood . Seriously though, I slapped the mag (this was in BCT where all our gear was Desert Storm-era) against my helmet for kicks at the range, and half of ammo popped out like one of those party favors. I ended up getting smoked by the DS as he was laughing uncontrollably.

Nice selection. I am considering that as my primary rifle (and use my MP15 as my backup) down the road (along with the Colt Match Target, or just building one). Sigs also are gas piston systems, and are more efficient (I believe all Sigs are gas pistons)... so, enjoy not having as dirty of a rifle after a day at the range . Plus, the rail systems they have on those beasts are nice. My only gripe (and a small one) is get use to the weight; those suckers are heavy before you start lego'ing them. But that's a moot point once you're use to it. Enjoy man, and update us with pics and a range report when you can!

Always do regardless, I blame muscle memory

Maybe PK90 or something can shed light on this, as I remember singh asked the same question as before. Are you having it transferred to an FFL in NJ? From my impression, I thought NJ FFLs wouldn't touch a non-NJ compliant rifle even to began with. Either way, best of luck mate, enjoy enjoy.

Nice, I have some buddies that will be at the AC/DC concert-- have fun! My interesting experience with concerts was when my unit would allow us to moonlight as security guards for concerts at the Pepsi Center in Denver (counted as volunteer hours towards VSM). Had the opportunity to guard and meet U2, Brad Paisley (and others), Green Day, Snoop Dogg & The Game, and some others I cannot think of right now (mostly country singers, it really grew on me).

I agree that it does seem a bit pointless that collapsing stocks are a no-no. The military originally used collapsible stocks to make it easier for troops to handle their rifles with the addition of body armor, but that seems like a moot point in the civilian sector. My guess is the same as Richie's.

Oh, I was just reading off the info sheet that I was given by my PD. I asked if I could reference my former colleagues from out of state, and they said not to.

Yea, both references have to be in-state.

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My understanding is that an individual has to register the SBR upon purchase. However, a person has to also fill out paperwork with the BATFE when purchasing parts to make an SBR. If a person purchases an SBR as a whole, then it makes sense that the tax stamp would be registered to a permenant serial number on the lower. However, if you're building an SBR, then you have to fill out the paperwork only for the parts that would be considered SBR parts (such as the upper). What I read is from the ATF.gov site:

I had an SSBI done to get my clearance. Had my profile run by the local PD, then the FBI, printed by the DOD... and then further unscheduled interviews with random folk that were in my life I grew up with done by the DOD... and then all of that adjudicated by the DOD's personnel security and building security... and then a polygraph. Still had to get printed and a background check done by the NJSP for my FID. Talk about redundancy in the system :roll:

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The only NFA item allowed in NJ are machine guns, and that is only a technicality; good luck actually being able to use it (there have been a coupe discussions about the difficulties of owning a machine gun on the forum). However, all other NFA items are banned in NJ. That includes SBRs and SBS (shot barrel shotguns), suppressors, and other NFA items. From my understanding, its the barrel itself. Though, when an upper is sold with the barrel shorter then 16'', the whole item will collectively be sold as an NFA item. I'd say this is the case because its the barrel itself that is in question. You could technically get a 14.5'' barrel, and permanently attach a muzzle brake to make it 16'' (NJ compliant). It would be silly otherwise to get a 7''-10/11.5'' upper if you're barrel is going to be 16'' anyway To add, you could get an SBR upper, and slap it on any lower. So, I don't believe the lower is involved whatsoever when discussing SBRs. Once I move to a state where NFA items are allowed, I'm considering getting an SBR setup.

North meets Central/South? Haha, sounds like a good time. I'll have to wait for the next meet up though because I'll be in the Bahamas at that time.

This is a bit off topic, but just to add. There have been remarks about Sully stocks in prior posts, but a cheaper alternative is the Rock River Arms Entry buttstock. I've heard its just as solid, though the Sully is still better-- of course its all preference. The Sully retails at $130, RRA Entry at about $60.

Ha, I had no intentions of getting a 10/22 with a collapsible stock, but considering going to Dick's and inquiring about prices as they apparently tend to not update their floor prices with the system prices. Personally, I've used a collapsible stock on weapons during maneuvers, and I personally hate them. Give me an A2 stock or even one of the new precision stocks if they were NJ legal (made for SPRs. Somewhat adjustable, but solid still).

Wow, I did not know that. The best deal I got was when I went to Wal-Mart to get a lamp. It was marked at $25, but when I scanned it (at the self-serve scanner things), it was labeled as a spoon, and I got it for $0.37... I'll have to go check it out, I'm thinking about getting a 10/22 myself.

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You can buy the MOE handguards separately, and for cheap too. They are a part of the new Magpul lineup, and retail for $30 or so. They are not free float, but drop-in replacements for the standard carbine length handguards. Once some funds free up, I'm going to order a pair, as it is no real loss to try them out for such a cheap price. As for the new Magpul lineup, I find it all pretty interesting. While Magpul gained its initial fame from their magazines (which Paul at AnA has customized to be NJ compliant. Darn good looking, and function great), as well as their buttstock options, they've added the MOE handguards, and MBUS (flip up sights) for very cheap. The front and rear sights set combined is under $100, and, as I've already said, the MOE handguards are $30~. I have never doubted their quality, and once I have the means, will probably get these products to at least try out (and probably retain).

The rifle that Mel has up is a pretty good deal. Unlike the MP15 ORC (the one that Damaged and myself have), Mel's rifle already comes with a free-floated barrel (the FF handguard that Damaged has on his, the Daniel Defense Omega, is around $250). Mel's also already comes with the Troy BUIS as well, which retail for around $300 total for the front and rear. If I had the extra money right now, I'd add another AR to my collection! Good luck with your search, rest assured there are plenty of options out there for ARs-- especially with the prices going back down now

NFA laws are so :evil:, but understandable at some level I guess. Though, the fact that the BATFE will reportedly not replace the tax stamp if it becomes damaged is quite asinine on their part. If I get the opportunity to live in a more free state, I'll probably get a NFA firearm (probably an SBR, I would never have a need for an automatic or suppressed weapon). Ok, BTT

I have the same model as Damagedworld, and it is the SW M&P15 ORC (Optics Ready Compliant). The official factsheet can be found here: http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=11101&storeId=10001&productId=70947&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=33803&isFirearm=Y I would recommend using the firearm purchasing quote tool to reach out to the vendors on the forum. They all have very nice and fair prices, and are speedy in responding (I received emails and a phone call from all the vendors within 24 hours when I used it to get my MP15). Generally, I've seen the rifle range in price from 850-950$.

If its a stripped lower, and you acquire it through legal means, I don't see why not. It just happens to say LE is all 8-)

I believe the brake/compensator just has to be permanently attached, regardless of whatever you decide to use.