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Marksmanship is a basic fundamental (ha, I hope considering we're all firearm owners). I think whats more important is to know what kind of specialized skill sets we have (since that's whats America has become). Positions like engineers, communications specialists, heavy equipment operators, health technicians (doctors, nurses, etc), LE/Mil. And then knowing what kind of other skill sets, like first aid or radio specialists, or even advanced marksmanship.

I was too young too to really ever have a say regarding Mr. Clinton's politics, though I practically grew up during his presidency (and it wasn't too shabby growing up). I wish him the best and a continued healthy outlook.

I bought the M3 clone with the Primary Arms high cantilever mount (it was packaged on for free at the time). I put it on my AR (.223) when I first got it (didn't have the money saved up for the optics I have now), and it held zero fine after about 250-300 rounds. For .22, I honestly don't think it would budge a bit, though I would, of course, still recommend blue loctite. Another plus about PA is that they are known to ship freakishly fast (from what consumers say, and my personal experience). Their customer service is also darn good, as they called me three times in one day to update me on my order (they didn't have a stock wrench in, then they asked what I wanted to do, and then they called me back to let me know they had pulled a display stock wrench to ship).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.T.A.L.K. ... _Chernobyl The game S.T.A.L.K.E.R that takes place in an alternate reality Chernobyl (hence the Russian elements in the viral vid). The video itself is pretty convincing though, huh? Haha. And really, like WWZ explores, who knows what countries like Russia or China have hidden away from the free world countries? Doomsday devices (the fabled device from Dr. Strangelove that may actually exist), UFOs and aliens (Tungusaka event, ehh ehh )... zombies?

That was a decent game too It also gets me thinking that I really should consider training to get a pilot license. Not for anything big, but it'd be a hell of a skill to have if I need to get out of dodge quickly.

I was actually going to suggest the Primary Arms' clones. I have a M3 clone, and its pretty well made. They might be somewhat expensive (60-100$), but many people would agree that they're perfect for .22 training/shooting.

The thing about fire, and Brooks actually talks about it in ZSG, is that unless you know how to harness it-- its likely to bite you in the arse. For me, aside from making a small fire to keep warm/signal/cook, I wouldn't try to ever manipulate it in any other fashion. I'm not so much the clumsy type, but the stuff has a minds of its own

Did you, takeji, just watch the urban survival episode of man vs wild yesterday?! Ha because I just saw it for the first time then. I know Bear and his entourage take some liberties, but he did some ballsy stuff most people wouldn't be able to physically do or want to do (like doing a monkey crawl on a wire-rope bridge from a very high height). But yea, its too bad Les Stroud doesn't do Survivor man anymore. I think the closest to "urban survival" he's done was his documentary of living off the grid.

Dang, I was actually going to ask what type of solution you would provide for adding a magnifier, but you answered that. I guess my other question would be how much does it weigh? The design looks absolutely bomb proof, but looks like it would be more then having a separate BUIS and optic mount. I know weight is a personal preference, but just curious.

I'm going to present a quick summary of one of Magpul's latest "theory-based products" the AFG (Angled Fore Grip). What is out currently is actually now known as the AFG-1, as the AFG-2 will be released some time later this year (no information on the changes). The official link can be found here: http://store.magpul.com/product/64/88 This is something I've been meaning to do for awhile, just kept forgetting about it, so this may be old news to some people already. Also, I do not have any pictures included because my camera stopped functioning a couple weeks ago. The AR I tested it on was a Smith and Wesson M&P15 ORC with DD Omega 7.0 rail system. On the rail system was a DD offset light mount, and I switched between using a Millet DMS-1 variable power scope and EOTech 517. For further reference, I was also using the default NJ complaint pinned stock the rifle came with (pinned at the max LOP). The first thing I have to say about the AFG is that the feel of the grip will always boil down to the operator. That's the reason why I would rather refer this to a summary, and not a review. Everybody has different methods of holding and operating their AR system, and it wouldn't be fair to say my experiences (or anybody else) dictate how "it should be done." The AFG itself is actually quite easy to install. The mounting hardware really consists of one screw, and is as easy as sliding the AFG on to the lower rail and fastening it into place. The AFG also comes with two different "grip" options, the default pistol grip finger groove and a flat piece that could be swapped out. The swapping involves two screws, and about 5 seconds of installation otherwise. I personally preferred the finger groove as I felt I was getting a far better grip on the material. I placed the AFG so that the front area was lined up underneath the railed gas-block. I did this to achieve a better posture, which, admittedly, felt very, very natural. What I liked about the AFG is that the grip, as stated above, felt very natural. To go from a ready position to a firing position didn't involve any hand-banging, but a very fluid movement. I also liked that transitioning to your weak-side shoulder, and then back, also felt very fluid as well. As for the design, I loved the stream-line look, as well as its efficiency. I could fire from a supported position (using sandbags, or in my case, a range bag) without the distraction of the normal VFG. Also, when slung (in my case only using a single-point), the AFG wouldn't get tangled in anything else. This is not much of a major point, and more of a convenience, but I find it pertinent. In a high stress situation HD situation, or even in a tactical carbine class, the more that sticks off your rifle makes it that much more susceptible to getting caught up in stuff, and preventing you from operating the rifle. The negatives for me, and really only one-- though the most glaring, was the lack of rearward pressure that I could apply with my support hand. Everyone shoots differently, as I said, but one of the basic fundamentals is that the support hand applies the rearward pressure, allowing the trigger hand to, loosely, apply pressure to the trigger. This prevents the trigger finger from shaking, and being able to consistently squeeze the trigger (basic marksmanship). While the grip felt very natural, the degree of angle on the grip itself prevented me from being able to apply consistent rearward pressure. This is something that I discussed with Caine actually, and we both agreed that this was the major issue. (Regarding the degree of the angle, think pushing against a 90 degree wall, and then pushing against a 45 degree wall.) As I've said before, my positives and negatives can be totally different for another shooter, but I figured I'd share a growing consensus with the pros and cons of what I think is a great start. I have switched back to my stubby VFG since, but for $35 I don't regret giving the AFG a go. I'll also be looking forward to how the AFG-2 pans out later this year. To add: A great youtube video that shows the Magpul AFG in action (for reference):

Standardizing calibers is something I've honestly thought of a lot when getting and considering future investments. Given, I only own a rifle and pistol at this point, but the next pistol I'll be getting (whenever my permits come in) will be a P229R in the same caliber as my XD (.40). If I were to get a bolt action or even a Saiga, I'd lean heavily towards getting whichever in .223. Even from an efficiency perspective, I only have to concern myself with getting a few calibers instead of a handful, saving me time and money.

That is some great news then. I figured that a consumer could order a version to make it compliant for NJ-- I just wasn't sure if it was readily available or not... but you answered that question. I think I've found a future investment.

Just wear a hat with something shiny or something ridiculous (like a peacock feather), Pete, and people will automatically obey ... that and comfortable shoes/boots for all the a** kicking you might have to do.

Awesome! I will really be looking forward to what you have to say. If you don't mind me asking, do you even have to do anything regarding the folding stock? (I know there might be the debate on whether or not you would have to since the Vector is totally unique from anything on the 'books.') And if so, what is your solution to making that compliant? Thanks for any info.

Yep, received mine yesterday in the mail. I need to put it away until March though... need to save some money this month after buying a bunch of stuff for the AR.

Dang, I have to admit I drank the Deadliest Catch kool-aid, and really got into it pretty recently... but Capt. Phil was easily one of the more colorful characters to represent that industry. To put one's life into a career that's out to get you, and then to buy it like that... ah, always sucks. RIP.

I have to admit that for the greater Princeton area, getting out to the Lakewood area (generally speaking) would still be a pain. Whether traveling I195 or Rt 133/9, its a lot of ground to cover for those on the Rt. 1 corridor. (I live right by 8A for reference, on the western part of 130.)

I must admit my favorite PAW show is Jericho. Sure, its more tinfoil-ish, especially season two, and I'm sure life would be far more difficult (even if it is based in a self-sustained rural community). But I thought they did an amazing job with making such menial tasks/lives (because PAW life would be booooring) into a somewhat entertaining show, without too much melodrama. As for a wide variety of people, I definitely agree. My personal PAW-contact chain has an electrical engineer, two nurses, a doctor, health nutritionist (would that really count for something?), LEO, and me... and another buddy of mine is the type of person who takes two week backpacking trips, as well as being another engineer. Though, with the exception of the LEO, I don't think any of them have any real experience with firearms... survival through numbers, always.

Yea, I tried driving out to pick something up from the office... only about 5 miles of back roads (busiest road I have to deal with is Rt. 571 for reference)... jeez, I got there in the AM and it was fine. An hour or two later, I had to partially dig the SUV out. I saw a couple trees and power lines sagging too, not to mention the roads looked like they hadn't been plowed at all. My mother's HS in Edison canceled school for tomorrow already as well.

Yes, yes, the Kriss Vector is the firearm shown on Future Weapons and usable in MW2. It was tested out at PA in NJ for the Army (I believe), and has proved itself. I think it will definitely push the MP5 and MP7 for the next-gen SMG. For those not familiar with it, the official site can be found at: http://www.kriss-tdi.com/# There is the SMG version (SBR/FA) for MIL/LEO, KRISS SBR/SO for civilian use (5.5'' NFA item, but only in semi), and KRISS CRB (16'', only semi). It fires a .45ACP, and according to their product description it will be available in .40SW. The "regular civilian" version's official description can be found here: http://www.kriss-tdi.com/products/kriss ... crbso.html Now, I'm not concerned about the SMG or SBR versions, but the CRB might be a good alternative. Somebody would have to make a pinned stock for it (as it is folding by default), but otherwise it accepts 13rd Glock 21 magazines (people can buy an extender from KRISS that slips over the Glock 21 magazines, and extends the load to 30 rounds). The barrel is 16'', and if a pinned stock were created, its total length would be 34.8''. Also, the barrel for the CRB is not threaded, and cannot accept any type of muzzle device (crowned). The negative rhetoric of this firearms currently is that 1. its still too expensive 2. its argued to be more of a novelty as the innovation of its design is more for FA, and does not really affect SA (though that's debatable). The positives is that 1. the innovated design, though arguable, helps with accurate follow up shots as there is virtually no felt recoil 2. it harnesses the .45ACP. I know there are other carbines in pistol calibers for far cheaper prices. And I do think the design for the CRB version (16'' version) looks a bit funny since I've always been familiar with the SBR design, though that's just aesthetics to me. However, having followed this project for a couple years now, I really think this could be pretty interesting to own and use for fun and HD purposes. Any thoughts?

Coming down pretty steady in the greater Princeton area. Roads aren't too bad, though I could imagine it would be treacherous if it continues at this rate (as "they" predict). My mother, teacher at one of the HS in Edison, were informed before the school day was out of their cancellation. And I received an alert from my college that they were closing for tomorrow around 5 or so this afternoon.

TR is my hero, but looking back on history its easy to spot how TR falcon-punch'ed the crap out of Colombia to form a country that would be willing to help the US. As for the Russo-Japanese "war," and the ensuing decimation of Russia's fleet definitely showed Japan's might. However, could you really blame them? After seeing what the western world had done to China with their spheres of influence, the Japanese were smart in what they did... as brutal as it was (its in my blood to hate Japs [being another type of Orient])... "smart" of course only going as far as it did until they surrendered to the US (though, it ended up working in their favor, as the US pretty much established Japanese economics for the next 50+ years by helping them rebuild their entire infrastructure for the future while the 'Rust Belt' formed in our own backyard).

World War Z is going to be an absolutely awesome movie, and will definitely have a decent budget to work with (DiCaprio's studio is producing). ZSG is a great read too, though I must admit I'm so tired of reading FM's (haha). As for World War Z, I have the opportunity to use it for educational purposes for one of my classes... should be fun.

Welcome; great to have someone of your knowledge on the boards.

I haven't found anything concrete (or anything for that matter) that says anything relating to firearms... however, here's an interesting thing about evacuating: http://www.state.nj.us/njoem/law_directives_79.html I noticed, too, that a lot of this OEM is based on what was going on during WWII and the Cold War. Also, it seems that from what I'm reading, it really boils down to what your local municipality has drawn up.