DirtyDigz

My sincere thanks to everyone who is attending/speaking today. Please keep us updated!

Slight inaccuracies in ANJPRC's analysis of the bills from what I've read so far (note that I'm not advocating for any of these bills or saying that they're acceptable, only that ANJPRC's analysis is not completely accurate in all cases): A588 (Spencer / Coutinho / Deignan) – Prohibits possession of ammunition capable of penetrating body armor. ANJPRC - Analysis: effectively bans most rifle rounds (most body armor worn by police are only designed to stop handgun rounds. Armor that stops rifle rounds is available, but not in common usage). Gives Attorney General unilateral authority to ban specific rounds. Well intentioned or not, this would ban most rifle ammunition, which would render most rifles useless in the Garden State, including single shot rifles. My take: A588 only prohibits certain *HANDGUN* ammunition and does not regulate any rifle/shotgun ammunition. --- A1329 (Greenwald / Quijano / Coutinho) – Reduces maximum capacity of ammunition magazines to 10 rounds ANJPRC - Reduces magazine capacity limit from 15 to 10 rounds. Interferes with self-defense, puts law-abiding citizens at a disadvantage in home invasions and other emergencies. Will not stop another tragedy, as magazines are capable of being changed quickly. My take: A1329 reduces magazine capacity for **semi-automatic rifles only**, not for all firearms.

It wouldn't hurt, but for the 2/8 rally bus trip receipts were not necessary - the bus captain had a name list.

In NJ, a semi-auto shotgun with a pistol grip is illegal. A pump shotgun with a pistol grip is legal.

Battlecomps (and Spike Tactical's version, the dynacomp) are supposedly less punishing for muzzle blast than other muzzle brakes/compensators.

Sending emails and also faxes via this email-to-fax service: http://faxzero.com/

Convicted for kidnapping and bank fraud and released in 4 years. "Lax" gun laws are the problem!?

It's hard to believe that isn't a troll letter....anyway, moving on to the broader argument - if the constitution has become outdated and irrelevant in the opinion of the majority then there is a process to change it - amend it. Funny how few who decry how "useless" the constitution is investigate that option.

Thanks, got them now. Funny, I was logged into facebook and I am a member of the NJ2AS rally group.

I get this when I go to that link:

Ditto - I don't see any photos from the rally at the NJ2AS rally page.

Agreed, he was a great speaker - I was actually astonished that a representative like him lives and breathes in New Jersey.

Ahh, too bad I missed ya Ted. Yep, we arrived a bit late at ~6:50 and the 1st bus was already full. If I had known the 2nd wouldn't leave until 8:40 or so I could have slept in a lot more. For everyone who pussed out due to weather - too bad, you missed a great event and a chance to show your support. I have a lot of respect for my friend who came and stood out in the wet and cold for nearly 3 hours despite having the flu. I really have to compliment NJ2AS for this event - I thought it was extremely well organized and the majority of speakers were very good. It was really heartening to hear from others that share my views on 2A/RKBA issues - it can get depressing getting only one side from the media.

Love the panorama shot, nice work greatgunstatenj! I thought I managed to dodge most of the photographers but it looks like Horny Toad caught me:

On the road from Bridgewater at 8:30 (!)

Still sitting in parking lot in Bridgewater @ 07:40-second bus hasn't shown up yet.

BTW - Quick and dirty waterproofing - enclose the sign in the clear plastic bags you get from the dry cleaners, tape the edges shut.

My signs are ready. See y'all tomorrow:

millsan1, thank you and your GF for making the time to attend. Care to share what you spoke about?

Just so there's no mistake, all this drivel is *proposed* legislation at this point. It remains to be seen how much of it makes it into actual law.

Another point to consider - even if you have a "good shoot" and have no criminal liability - if the perp doesn't die then you can expect to be a defendant in a civil suit for the perp's medical bills/pain & suffering, and you (or your counsel) will have the task of explaining to a jury of your peers why hollowpoints aren't evil instruments of maiming, purposefully chosen by you to inflict the most heinous suffering upon some mama's innocent baby.

Correction - the mag limit is 10, not 6. Addition - all ammo purchases must be registered and reported. The clown parade: Creedmoor sports announces move from California to Alabama: http://www.facebook.com/CreedmoorSports?ref=ts&fref=ts

I've never received an answer that I trusted. Logic would indicate that if your use of your firearm was completely legal then there could be no charge for use of hollowpoint ammunition, but if your use was illegal in any way then a charge of unlawful possession/use of hollowpoint ammo could be tacked on. However, logic doesn't always prevail in the courtroom. I'm not aware of any prior cases that have gone either way with hollowpoint ammo, either it was used without being charged, or used with being charged. Personally, I load my HD firearms with Hornady Critical defense which has a reasonable argument that it is not hollowpoint ammo.

Here's my "finalists" for slogans- going to narrow these down to 4 and then make the signs tonight: If guns cause crime mine must be defective --- The 2nd Amendment wasn't written to protect us from deer --- Which Amendment is next? --- Having a gun is the difference between being a first responder - or a first victim. --- Can we include the topic of Operation "Fast and Furious" in our conversation about gun control? --- Why is it that semi-automatic rifles with 30 round magazines in civilian hands are labeled "Assault Weapons" with "High Capacity Magazines", but when the Department of Homeland Security wants to buy fully automatic versions of those rifles they are described as "Personal Defense Weapons" with "Standard Magazines" ? --- If AR-15's are "weapons of war" that "don't belong on our streets" then who are the police at war with?

Legalize it. Those that want it already have no problems getting it. I welcome the increase in state/federal tax revenue, the decrease in criminal/cartel revenue, the decrease in law enforcement resources and jail space dedicated to a bs "crime", the reduction in stigma and fear of prosecution for those that medically *need* it and maybe, just maybe, a decrease in the "forbidden fruit" fascination with it.