DirtyDigz

Umm, how about an effin' courtesy spoiler alert before dropping that on those of us that don't have time to read the phone books, uh, excuse me, comic books?

If you're looking for statute you can link to that says "It's LEGAL!", you're not going to find it. NJ Statute does not list every possible thing that is legal. NJ only defines illegal use. Body Armor ("Body Vests") are Illegal to use in the commission of, or escape from, a crime. Otherwise, they are unregulated in NJ. http://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2013/title-2c/section-2c-39-13/ Title 2C - THE NEW JERSEY CODE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE Section 2C:39-13 - Unlawful use of body vests 2C:39-13. Unlawful use of body vests 1.Unlawful use of body vests. A person is guilty of a crime if he uses or wears a body vest while engaged in the commission of, or an attempt to commit, or flight after committing or attempting to commit murder, manslaughter, robbery, sexual assault, burglary, kidnaping, criminal escape or assault under N.J.S.2C:12-1b. Use or wearing a body vest while engaged in the commission of, or an attempt to commit, or flight after committing or attempting to commit a crime of the first degree is a crime of the second degree. Otherwise it is a crime of the third degree. As used in this section, "body vest" means bullet-resistant body armor which is intended to provide ballistic and trauma protection. L.1983,c.152,s.1; amended 1999, c.306.

That's funny. I have a....uh...friend, yeah, that's it, a friend, who early on in his firearms hobby was nowhere near as acquainted with NJ firearms law as he is now. This friend heard that the Middletown NY Gander had a great selection of shotguns, so he went there to buy one. He saw a really cool semi-auto 12ga with a pistol grip he liked and bought it from the surly salesman who grumbled about having to fill out a NJ COE, but did complete the background check and sale, boxed up the completely NJ-illegal pistol-gripped semi-auto shotgun and sent my friend on his way. Same salesman refused to allow the purchase of any hollow point ammo, saying it was completely illegal to sell to NJ residents, btw. Irony. So my friend drooled and finger banged and play cycled 12ga snap caps through his new prize at home in NJ for several days, dreaming of taking the shotty to the range for the first time. Out of mild curiosity, and concerned by something he read on NJGF about NJ firearms law regarding semi-auto shotguns, he did some research and finally worked his way through the convoluted path to arrive at the realization that the shotgun he was sold in NY by Gander was illegal to posses in NJ. Luckily a non-pistol grip stock was immediately available for purchase and was swapped in.

And here I am with 1K rounds of .22LR promptly and painlessly delivered to my doorstep today from Gander Mountain. I guess their web programmers are a higher echelon than their phone order takers...

Yup, although without the NJSP and NJ division of taxation involvement...so far. What a mess. I only visited the store once when I did the motorcycle poker run/range tour this year - looked like a great place.

Thanks for sharing. I think we can now declare the great .22LR drought of 2013 as OVER.

I think that might work, if I get time I'll try it out.

Long holo sight is Looooonnnnnnnggggg. Why so long? Or is that housing just some stealth-o-flauge to keep the spies from seeing the actual sight dimensions?

My wallet curses you Nick. Why did you have to post that? I really thought I was done buying firearms for a while, but since I'm now into having .308 caliber for the 1919, why not get a "non-novelty" rifle that can use that caliber as well....

I have a bunch ordered last time this deal came up. As far as the metal being cheap - I can't really tell a difference, metal thickness seems the same, have had no dent/bend/rust/paint flaking issues in the ~ 1 year I've been using them There are definitely issues with stacking. I think the "feet" are stamped too shallow. I won't stack mine over 3 high. 2 stacked is stable, 3 stacked will wobble a bit but not enough to worry about the stack falling over, 4 high will topple over with a slight bump.

Academy.com is selling .50 cal metal ammo can clones for $9.99 each, free shipping, multiple colors available: http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/game-winner-metal-ammo-can#repChildCatid=910560 They get wobbly when stacked over 3 high (something is not quite right with the stamped "feet" on them), but otherwise they seem to be equivalent to actual military cans.

I demand a recount! (Congrats Fish. Thanks for running this "non-raffle" High Exposure/Modern Materiel (said "eel" with pinky raised)).

I've never bothered with getting a CCW for another state. Now I want to. What's best to get first, Florida or Utah (or both, but you have to get one first to get the other)?

Malsua: https://youtu.be/o9mJ82x_l-E?t=55s It was YUUUUUUGE and orange this morning. Glad I got to see it.

Exactly.

What buddy, Zeke? What are you referring to?

I would always recommend providing the contact info for your company's HR dept., if it's big enough to have one. The HR dept. most likely has a policy to only give out a minimum of information to anyone inquiring about one of their employees ("yes, they are employed here, but our policy prohibits offering any opinions on whether they should own a firearm.")

Paypal sent. Put me on the list of entrants please.

I'm in and can paypal. Somebody PM me when the paypal issue is figured out, please.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/RED-WHITE-BLUE-DOVE-TARGET-SHOTSHELLS-PER-CASE/2308833.uts In red white and blue box colors so you can properly celebrate the upcoming Trump presidency. Code '6THANKS' gets you free shipping over $99.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Red-Army-Standard-X-mm-Rifle-Ammunition/2292502.uts ~$0.24 per round. I think the free shipping code of '6THANKS' still applies here, going to find out.

Per Cabela's flyer, those same boxes are going to be $17.99 during a one day sale on Sat. 11/19. I'm guessing the free shipping code will be expired by then. Set a reminder on your calendar app for early Saturday morning 11/19.

I'd say high - "on the street" policemen probably will have no knowledge of what's going on unless the AG issues a directive, so they'll go by the law they know: possession is illegal, arrest.

My take: The law is on the books, but the top NJ law enforcement officer (the attorney general) has filed a court document conceding that it is unconstitutional. Until the law is repealed, or until the NJ AG issues a directive to LEO's not to enforce it, you'd likely still get arrested if you are found in possession of a stun gun. Somewhere between your arrest, the prosecutor deciding to charge you, and your arraignment/court hearing/trial your lawyer would bring up the NJ AG's filing in the other case and charges would either not be filed, or the prosecutor would drop the case. The state of NJ could go several ways here - they could just repeal the law and just not have any law on stun guns, or they could draft new laws that allow stun gun possession, but put similar restrictions on them as, say, handguns (can only possess in certain exempted places/situations).