mikelets456

Exactly. She was honest enough to reply honestly and even though she did not have to say anything, she voluntarily did her "duty to inform". The cop needed to use some common sense and simply tell her to lock it up in the trunk or remove the ammo, lock it in the trunk, explain why and then escort her back to the bridge. I understand laws are laws but this cop just ruined her life. Before you get all over me for blaming the cop, would it be fair if you're carrying and end up 2' in a school zone without knowing it? You're in NC and your duty is to inform. You [just so] happened to be riding a bike and you're almost a 1/5 mile away from a school zone that you don't realize you're in...should you spend 10 years in jail? Or would the proper outcome be that the officer explain you're on the fringe area and please leave now? I see both sides to this as we all go online, research the crap out of this stuff before we even attempt to carry. There's bound to be the exemption and she has NO excuse. But she was being honest and this cop should have taken that into account. I guess the lesson learned is "keep your mouth shut". It's a shame that we've gotten' to that point of distrust for one another, but sadly we are there.

http://forum.pafoa.org/pennsylvania-10/258552-hb-2398-rep-saccone-s-universal-recognition-concealed-carry-permits-pa.html Posted: June 20, 2014 04:15 PM From: Representative Rick Saccone To: All House members Subject: Pennsylvania Concealed Carry Legislation I will be introducing legislation to further the safety and welfare of Pennsylvania citizens, as well as visitors to this state by clarifying and improving legitimate, lawful self-defense options. This legislation will provide for universal recognition of concealed carry permits among States. Current Pennsylvania law is conflicting, in some regards, limiting. My legislation will address these areas and will also lead to a more straightforward and more easily interpreted understanding of the laws by citizens when carrying firearms and by law enforcement when interacting with citizens who carry a permit within their own State. By improving the opportunities for the law abiding citizens to carry self-defense tools into Pennsylvania, we will be seen as a leader in promoting public welfare, not to mention the increased tourism due to a higher safety factor of a state that promotes self-defense options for law-abiding citizens. [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];

I suggest getting as many people to write Kane and our legislatures that you will no longer be spending your hard earned cash in PA because you don't feel safe being denied a right to carry as a law abiding citizen. She really is "something"...WITCH!

Utah reciprocity back in place: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Crime/Utah_reciprocity_agreement.pdf

July 3rd VETO! He'll do it late in the day as no one will be reading or listening to the news for several days. By Monday it will be no big deal because many people will be on vacation. I believe almost 100% he will veto.

That's this Judge's answer? Are you freaking kidding me? Our country is so out of control it's unbelievable. The arrogance and blatant disregard of the right for an innocent person to protect themselves from evil is not only treasonous, but disingenuous..

I agree. He's got nothing to gain by letting it pass. It's amazing how all the corrupt BS and usurpation of power done by this administration and you hear nothing on the news about it. The media is MAKING and controlling the news. Sickening and treasonous...

But at least he's holding the guns correctly in a safe direction and finger off the trigger ....you gotta' give him that. There is basic knowledge

How does one go about getting their CT carry?

She is prescribed adderoll. She is a med student, excellent grades, squeaky clean record. I told her to get a lawyer . Any suggestions?

The question should be, do you carry even if it's illegal and how do you plan on defending yourself with an illegal weapon? I spoke to a friend who said he was carrying in NJ. I said, "that's nice, but how are you planning on defending yourself". He looked prepared and ready to answer then rubbed his chin and stuttered.." I guess I'll have go defend myself then run".

This really ticked me off when my grandmother was in a nursing home and the "nurses" would tell her "to vote for Obama, he's a great guy, make sure you remember to vote for Obama". After a few nurses said that to her, my mom complained and they did nothing about it. By the time we made the decision to move her, she had to go to the hospital then went downhill shortly after. These people are sick! Taking advantage of elderly sick people and their families. They're disingenuous to the core. That's one reason we're losing, because we have a conscience and will not compromise on morals and values. True evil takes advantage of that, but I for one believe, in the end evil LOSES!

This is a good little read on what you're talking about: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/14/Second-Amendment-Drama-at-the-Supreme-Court-and-2016-Election

So one person changes the entire process, infringes further on innocent peoples rights, because of one person.....but, that's for our safety, of course.

From what I heard phones are ringing off the hook, reps are hearing a lot about this witch. Sadly, PA does not have a recall law. She can only be impeached or pass the constitutional carry law. There ain't much we can do until election time, but it know law suits are in the works, calling, writing, etc. We all need to stand together against this NJ/PA NORTH EAST TYRANNY.

Is there a link. I need to donate and get this witch out! I've contact many Reps in PA and they say they can't do anything unless they impeach her. I will do whatever legally go remove her from office, she's out of control and doing what she wants.

Sorry. They're simply ignorant of what's going on in society. For instance, gun homicides are at the LOWEST since 1964! Yes and even with record amounts of people buying and carrying concealed, etc. Also, of the millions and millions of background checks, over 75,000 innocent people were denied their right and only 44 were denied correctly!! Criminals get guns illegally and most importantly are only imprisoned for a short time and released yet honest gun owners have their lives ruined even after they followed the rules to a "T" (NY, CT, NJ). These people don't know the facts that hundreds of millions of innocent people are killed by their own governments when guns are banned, confiscated or limited. Sorry, but these people are ignorant traitors!

But this page on the Utah site shows PA reciprocity: http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/documents/Reciprocitypdf07102013.pdf And this as well: http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

Where did you see that? I can't find anywhere that Utah was cancelled....

They're listening like a 3 year old that's told to stay out of the candy jar, then when no one is looking....BAM!

They're all important and you bring up good points. In PA, it's worded "shall not be questioned". In the 2A of the Constitution it's stated "shall not be infringed". Websters definition: to do something that does not obey or follow (a rule, law, etc.) ( chiefly US ) : to wrongly limit or restrict (something, such as another person's rights) I don't know where "wrongly limit or restrict" turned into 4000 plus gun laws. Shall not be infringed is as simple and boiled down as it gets, but there are people that are bent on taking this country down and they can't do it with a fully armed populace. I believe any politician, Judge or state official that infringes against an obvious right, should be held on treason.

So running a background check, get finger printed, put down two references, pay $68, fill out a questionnaire, take off work twice to pick up info then sit and be questioned for no apparent reason, wait 2-6 months, usually have some sort of complication, have a Leo call your boss, question your physical and mental condition, then visit your home, be questioned again, show Id, sign more papers...ALL OF THIS BEFORE YOURE EVEN ABLE TO BUY A BB GUN. Then there's pistol permits.....and I'm the one with a problem? You think it's all fine and good to treat honest citizens like this? Wow, I feel sorry for you. Maybe soon you'll wake up....

I guess it would be okay if we did this with voters? How about I come to your house and investigate you every time I "feel like it" and you can't deny me doing so? How about I question your job, question your abilities to do your job and have you pay me for doing so? Maybe I can judge your character in front of your neighbors? Yeah, it's really not an infringement is it. I'm sure you'd love me questioning your life daily.

I guess his clean background, clear criminal record and being an honest tax paying citizen sent up a red flag at the Police Department.

I asked if they went into the house and he said "no". But he did ask questions, made him show his ID, sign a few items and I think show some other proof that he lived there. One other thing I never thought of, it stinks even more because I'm sure his neighbors are going to ask him why a LEO was at his house. My goodness, I hope this does not become common place.