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With #1 - yes he arrived on the scene with other marked units, but before he made the final stop in, he turned off his lights & sirens and there is no talk about any incident. He had a pleasant conversation with his wife before leaving the scene, again without sirens, to pull over the ambulance. He was wrong from the beginning. It wasn't an emergency situation when he was using lights and sirens. He got flipped off when he made a gesture to the ambulance driver for failure to yield (again to using lights and sirens wrongly), proceeded to pickup his wife, and then go after the ambulance. If the ambulance driver was in the wrong, he should have pulled him over initially. He even told the driver, "I won't tolerate hand gestures". I can't argue #2 because he came up on the ambulance so fast, that you can't tell if lights are running. Sirens might not be necessary in that district unless they came on traffic. But i'll just leave that part alone. In #3, he came out and identified himself, and immediately notified the officer that there was a patient in the back, which the officer ignored. He only became hostile when the officer repeatedly ignored the well-being of the patient. #4 for the civil suit, the officer is LUCKY he guy was checked out and turned out ok. But his life was still put in danger by the officer. If the patients condition was worse, he could have be liable for her death. He failed to check on the patient from the beginning, so he has no defense on saying, oh the patient was fine. A judge wouldn't give you a lesser sentence for holding up a bank with firearm loaded with blanks. According to everyone else, it was a deadly situation. According to the EMTs, they thought the patient was in jeopardy, otherwise they wouldn't be transporting him to the hospital. Putting the patient at risk doesn't get excused just because the patient turned out to be released in a few hours.

Wrong #1 - running hot to pick up the wife. It wasn't an emergency, so he was being unlawful. Wrong #2 - He didn't stop the ambulance at the moment of failure to yield, and you can't blame the driver. Who can hear sirens over sirens, and if the ambulance is going faster speeds, his eyes better be on the road, not the rear view mirrors, watching for a police vehicle. Wrong #3 - Failed to know his surroundings. He should have realized the ambulance was on the way to the hospital. Its his town right? But because the driver flipped him off, he ignored the possibility that there was a patient in the back. The chief medic got out of the vehicle, identified himself, said he was in charge of the unit and said there was a patient in the ambulance. The officer ignored ALL of it. Wrong #4 - He not only ignored all of #3, but he continued to put his personal feelings ahead of those of the patient. Regardless of what the driver did, as soon as he realized that there was a patient in the rear of the ambulance, he should have followed them to the hospital and then deal with the situation after the patient was safely being taken care of. Regardless of the actions of the EMS, he put the patient in jeopardy. If you were in charge, where someone's life was in the balance, how would you react if someone ignored your pleas and just continued to have an ego trip? He even told the officer to let them continue to the hospital and arrest him there. His responsibility is to his patient. I don't know if he'll be fired, but I fully expect the EMS and the patients family to bring up charges on him as well as civil suits. He unlawfully endangered her life and there's no excuse.

lol yeah, post what they say

The Nigerian Colleges would be proud that you were touched. The top courses in Nigeria are all how to scam Americans. And they will offer to split the money or give you payment up front, but the catch is, they will send you fake money orders, which you'd deposit and cash, and then after you spend it, you'll get the notice from your bank, that the money orders are invalid, so you're out of the cash you sent back to them. Anytime someone's going to give you money upfront for nothing, its a scam. If it sounds too good to be true, it is, no likely about it.

Its not an urban legend. I clean any rust on the chrome on my 69 mustang by rubbing coke on it with aluminum foil. But i wouldn't risk using it to clean your firearms with.

As a vet and as a professional photographer, there's no way i'd do that. Too many chances for an accident. Wireless remotes cost less than $20, so why risk it? You can actually get the camera with tripod to get more dangerous angles since it takes up less space. Purely stupid.

Welcome from Toms River

Immediate family, i'll be the first. My uncle was a police officer, so he owned, but no matter what was said, the only think my mother remembered were the stories about the times my cousin would turn up with the keys to my uncle's sidearm and bring the gun to his father. I shot some skeet with older friends, joined the navy and shot plenty there, and shot shortly after getting out with family friend and brother before he left for the army. I know when my father eventually gets one, he'll be first generation, yet second to get one. As far as the mindset, I don't think its a hardline belief that Govt. should control our rights, as much as its been a slow drawn out pacification of our wills and desire to maintain the rights. I can't even pinpoint the exact date range, but we've seen newer generations just not have the work ethic, not have the education, and basically have been conditioned to accept and expect the Govt. to take care of them. Alot don't think for themselves, and trust everything they see on TV or read on the internet. As far as the 2a is concerned, the gun control groups have all the free press they want after every gun-free zone shooting. Instead of blaming the lax security, questioning how someone who served 6 years in prison got his hands on a gun, all the focus goes to the gun and how "laws" could prevent it. The NRA doesn't get their spot, no one's giving the other side of the story, so in the general populace's view, guns are painted in a bad light, and for some its a bad first impression. The NRA, those of us here, and other pro-gun organizations need to figure out a way to educate the general populace, without taking it to the extremes. Being a fanatical pro gun to oppose the fanatical anti-gun only makes you a fanatic and the target audience won't hear anything but keywords, and they'll miss the message. Problem is, the keywords are all in their favor.

no probs. I stopped by SS to check prices of the GSG-5 and shoot a few rounds after work. I'll be in bensalem Saturday and be back on sunday late am/early afternoon, so just let me know what time.

Let me know if you're shooting down. You can bring the tshirts and i'll give ya cash so i can look like I know what i'm doing!

I rented. Toms River has like a 6 month process on their FID's, and I'm going thru NJCSD's FIDO process, so we'll see how long it actually takes. I've got plenty of time now to just try out plenty of handguns and see which ones works best for me. And yeah the rain is definitely coming. The radar looks like it might shoot more north, but can never tell.

Yup, night and day when I went back last night. Maybe the instructor in your ear just made me focus on everything at once. Was alot smoother. I'm gonna shoot a few boxes today after work, and just keep working at it. 6" groupings at 10 yards need to be tighter! I'm bringing some of the njforums targets today.

Shore shot got a small shipment in today and are getting a few more in soon. I'll be back there tomorrow after work for a few, so i'll check prices and see how many they have.

Welcome from Toms River

The first half the class was basic safety and rules. Went over the different guns, proper procedures, proper grip, etc.. Not too much different than what you can read about anywhere, its just different hearing it face to face. 2nd half was all on the range.

Last time I shot, i don't remember it ever being an issue though, so was just curious if its something that happens with people who take long breaks. But yes, I think too much lol

Thanks for the offer. I'll definitely shoot over. Bring a shirt and i'll wear it

lol yeah i know i was thinking too much. Having an instructor in your ear and other's watching you just makes you think more. Was 7 yards, and yeah i can afford to practice plenty. Don't own yet, i'm using NJSCD's FIDO, since toms river's process is seriously messed up and can take up to 6 months or more. I can rent at SS until i get it though. It was just SS's basic firearm class, not the NRA. Was only 3 hours, isn't the NRA one 8 or 10? I definitely want to take all the NRA courses, I took this one just to act as a refresher. Was 12 years for me, and close to 41 years for my father who I treated to the class and a membership. I didn't want to get out on the range again until I took a class.

Took the class at SS, and Bob was great. I hadn't shot in 12 years, and mainly always shot rifles. We shot a .22, 9mm and .45acp. I started off terrible lol. Biggest problem i was having was too much pressure with the right hand. I'm ambidextrous, so depending on the activity, my left hand dominates sometimes, and the right in others. Normally, its eating, writing on the left, throwing on the right. Basketball i use both, but mostly shoot with the right. I had to focus on not putting more pressure with the right hand, and force the left to grip the gun. And by focusing on that, i gradually got much better groups. We each shot 3 times in the group, I shot the .22 first and like i said it being so light, the hand problems made it noticeable. I shot the .45 next and it was better, but noticed the few times my hands instinctly tried to grip it. The 9mm which was also the heaviest, seemed the best out of the 3, as far as my groupings. I'm not sure if it was the weight of the gun that made it less noticeable, or just my muscle memory started kicking in, but anyone remember how long it took to get over that issue? I'm even debating trying to see if I shoot better lefty. I can't shoot rifles lefty, but curious if my hands want to naturally work the other direction for handguns. I'm gonna end up spending alot of time at the range to work it out and get used to it, but was just curious.

lol, but what would be worse... the challenge or the review?

Yeah, its a great site, alot of helpful info in the forums, and entering challenges are easy. It lets you test simple technique and hammer it down, cuz its easy to take something that looks good to you initially, and then get a low vote for something you really weren't paying attention too. Forces the repetition of the basics, while letting you think outside of the box to bring out the wow factor.

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E4, but sometime between middle of basic and when my other training started, I got a hernia, which doctors went back and forth on whether I actually had one, so I had a friend in legal get me out on a technicality with a General Discharge after months of new diagnoses and tests and being told there was nothing wrong with me, then went to a civvy doctor who found the hernia and had me scheduled for surgery within 5 minutes of being in his office. Appeal, and now check every month tax free. I never had to get on a boat, and since I spent less than a year "in service" I don't even call myself a vet, even though I'm technically a disabled vet. I didn't serve nearly as long as hard as a typical sailor/soldier/grunt, so I have my experience and knowledge of what I went thru, but don't feel like I'm included in the discussion when it comes to those that serve/served. I just plan on showing up my father who I bought a membership for too, since he hasn't shot since he got home from 'Nam in 68. They said its like riding a bike, but 12 years off the bike for me, and 41 years off the bike for him, we'll see who gets the feel back first We're both taking a refresher basic firearms class this Sunday, and then I'll get back into a regular practice routine. Might have to hit up Anthony at Gun for Hire for some more classes down the road and try some competition shooting if I've still got the eye.

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No, i'm going thru it now. I shot all the time in the military, and when I got out I had other things with higher priorities (I was 22, so clubs and girls were more "shiny"). I'm a member of SS in lakewood, so shooting isn't an issue, but owning is, at least until they stop their drawn out process. Toms River makes the JC one gun a month bill look like a plus lol