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I suggest asking your lawyer if you had one. But if you want my opinion, the question asks if you "ever" had an application refused. I would say "yes" since you were refused and had to appeal. The "refuse" action happened. You can then state that it was appealed and you were granted a permit. This is the total face value "truth" to the question. At, the bottom of the app #30 has you sign that all statements are true and correct. If something is incorrect, you may be denied for falsification of application. This is a "catch all" reason for disapproval if anything may be incorrectly stated on your form. Since I don't know all the details, and am not a lawyer, thats the best I can do. I don't know that an appeal actually means it never happened.

Shane hit the nail on the head about alcohol and cigs. They make a ton of money on alcohol and cigarette tax. Just proves the government couldn't give a damn about your health. It's all about power and money my friend. I think I saw cigaretts going for $9.00 a pack. How much of that is tax? Good points Shane. Oh - one more thing. When you start considering machinists tools as weapons, I think most of us should be locked up.

I would get 1 large safe as long as you can fit it through doorways. Even if you need more people to move it. A large heavy safe is much more difficult to steal. Get a larger than needed safe because they fill up fast and you're already starting with a big collection. Like others have said, a safe realistically will hold 3/4 of rated capacity. I keep a 40 watt light on in mine to keep air moving and help with humidity/temp.

You'll be spoiled after living in PA. One of the more recent changes in gun laws is the purchasing one gun a month law which only applies to pistols. You probably know about this already. Expect high taxes and expensive utility payments here. Welcome to the Peoples Republic of New Jersey!

Chris That Cannon is pretty nice for the price.

Nick - excellent pics. Thanks for sharing. I just couldn't get up to see it. I get up too early. There are going to be two more in 2011. One in June and the other in December.

Yes! I don't think I need to say much here.

Bro - ease up. Maybe his pair has insulation and yours doesn't. I'm quite sure he knows the difference between plastic and the normal padding. Sheesh.

Shane - that was excellent!

You need to wait a month between perchases. I wouldn't worry about getting an extension. Who cares if the chief gets mad about changing an expiration date on a permit. That's part of his job - to serve the public. I know people that have gotten them extended after they expired. And you're right, this state is F'd up. That's what happens when a bunch of libs control the state.

I wouldn't use 357 Mag for CCW. I would use 38 Sp. and use a small frame revolver. You don't want to shoot through a BG and hit someone else. 357 Mag is wicked. You also don't want to use it in your house or you may need eardrum replacement.

No offense, but this sounds ridiculous.

Welcome - also from the north.

I shot a Sig P232 which is basically the same gun and it shot pretty sweet. Congrats on your pistol - very nice.

I like using Universal Clays for 38 Sp. I haven't done much testing with .45ACP. It sure does smell good. My favorite powder for .45ACP is Accurate #2. It is a fine powder and measures great in my RCBS powder mesure. It is possible to double load a case because it is very fine heavy powder, so be careful. I shoot both lead and FMJ with Accurate #2. Let me know if you want to unload a pound of Universal Clays.

Yes you can.

I shot wolf in my WASR 10 but I don't think you can use it in pistols. That's all I shoot in my AK type.

Emulate PA's gun laws - just like that? That's the idea, but it's not goona happen in one shot. You do realize this is the Peoples Socialist Republic of New Jersey controlled by liberal Dem's. Any type of firearm's law change in our favor is a big step and will be fought with opposition along the way. The media will come against it big time. Most people in this state are ignorant about guns in general, not gun friendly mostly from mis-information and media spin. I wouldn't want a spot light on this. I vote for small increments at a time with heavy pressure.

Nick - if you want a SHTF zombie rifle, look no further than the Keltec Sub2000. I have one in .40 S&W with glock 22 mags, and it runs flawless. It's pretty accurate too.

+1 - pretty incredible

I thought I saw a picture of a gun that blew up from S&B ammo on the wall by the range. I heard the pressures in this ammo may he higher because it's manufactured for russian guns that have stronger chambers. I don't know if this is true or not.

The pistol permit process is handled by the chiefs secretary in our town. I can call her any time and she returns my calls. I can also stop down and see her if needed. At least we have someone to handle it. That's probably why my references receive the form within a few days.

I think this is a step in the right direction especially if this card will be used for shall issue CCW. Changing the current pistol permit app process will help in not having to apply for a permit for each pistol. We will not get everything we want changed in one shot. This is liberal NJ and roots have been established over years of time. As some have stated, the pressure must be kept up to keep things moving in the right direction for us. Strike while the iron is hot. The liberal Dem's do not believe in free America or our rights. They want total control of power over the people. The Dem's believe they know what is best for us. We are a small scale version of Obama Crime Inc.

Permits shouldn't take longer than a month. If they do, it's the PD holding them up. I know people in 2 other towns that wait the same length of time. My references receive the letters usually a few days after I apply. One time permits were ready in 3 weeks, but I think that was a fluke.

Bro - If it wasn't so far I would. I work in Newark and have to drive 27 miles north to get my stuff then drive back down again in Traffic. Even driving to Bullet Hole after work is pushing it. If I have an off Tues or Wed. I'll come check it out.